SD Card / Music issue

[knightwolf123]

I bought 2 32 microsd cards on eBay (first mistake) and now nothing but problems. however, when I use my stock 8gb it works fine.

I can not get the files to stay on the 32gb cards. I can format with Windows 7 with a media card reader or on the phone itself and it doesn't seem to matter. after waiting forever to transfer tuna of files or just a few when I own the destination folder the files.are not there. I think I got crappy cards but I am not giving up yet.

is there a format utility or any solutions that will allow me to use the card(s)

 

[knightwolf123]

I bought 2 32 microsd cards on eBay (first mistake) and now nothing but problems. however, when I use my stock 8gb it works fine.

I can not get the files to stay on the 32gb cards. I can format with Windows 7 with a media card reader or on the phone itself and it doesn't seem to matter. after waiting forever to transfer tuna of files or just a few when I own the destination folder the files.are not there. I think I got crappy cards but I am not giving up yet.

is there a format utility or any solutions that will allow me to use the card(s)

 

[freeza]

I bought 2 32 microsd cards on eBay (first mistake) and now nothing but problems. however, when I use my stock 8gb it works fine.

I can not get the files to stay on the 32gb cards. I can format with Windows 7 with a media card reader or on the phone itself and it doesn't seem to matter. after waiting forever to transfer tuna of files or just a few when I own the destination folder the files.are not there. I think I got crappy cards but I am not giving up yet.

is there a format utility or any solutions that will allow me to use the card(s)

Did you buy the Verizon memory cards?

 

[LazyEngineer]

Beware of good deals on large memory cards. Fakes are a lot more clever than you think - and fool very smart people. Here's my own experience:

128 GB Memory stick on eBay, $35. Should have been my first clue that something was amiss.

USB stick arrives. It's in name brand packaging. Looks like I just picked it up at BestBuy. Must be legit, right?

Plug it into the machine. Machine says 128 GB. Neat, must be legit, right?

Being extra clever, I reform it on my computer. Takes several hours. And my computer says it's 128 GB. Must be legit - right?

I transfer over about 2 GB of data, and they read/write/etc just fine. Must be legit, right?

Over the course of time, I use a bit, everything works good. Must be legit, right?

A few weeks in, I transfer over about 4 GB of data. It transfers over fine. The files show up when I click on the card. The data files even run when I double click them. Must be legit, right?

WRONG! The card is a fake, and passes all these tests. It's actually only a 4 GB card. After I exceed about 4 GB (on my "128" GB memory stick), AND try that memory stick on another machine, it doesn't work. In fact, almost all the new data is corrupt, and doesn't actually work.


Know why? Because it's a FAKE.


Here's how it works.

What they do is take 2, 4, or 8 Gb memory and at the factory hotwire it to report that it's actually 128 Gb, or whatever size they want it to say. Windows just assumes that hotwire is legit, and doesn't actually do it's own real check. And when you reformat it, Windows happily reformats it acting like it's a 128 GB memory stick. And if you transfer data to it, up to it's real size, why everything works fine.

The real fooler is, when you copy over more data then that (i.e. more than 2 GB in my case), and then double click on the data files, why they open up just fine. They do so, because Windows apparently is going back to the original location on you HDD to actually run it. That last test is what really tricked me. It's repeatable, because the bastards got me 3 times before I did the on-line research to figure out this is what they are doing and how it works.

Eventually I was able to reversed all the charges on them via the credit card (don't waste your time with PayPal, they'll just jerk you around).

So if you get a really good deal on large memory. My advise, fill it up immediately, then take it to another machine, and test if everything you transfered over actually works. Here's betting it doesn't. And most people don't do this - at least not for a while. So the unscrupulous on-line suppliers keep on selling them, knowing that 95% of the customers will just assume it went bad, or they got it wet, or maybe never notice at all.

Don't know if this is the OP's issue, but bewarned on buying a "good deal" on memory on Ebay.

And while I'm at it, the cheap Mexican "pure natural" vanilla, is fake too. It's artificial.

 

[QuickDraw]

I had a similar problem with one of the players, I can't remember which, but what I ended up doing was turning off the phone, and then booting it back up for the player to recognise all of the songs. I had no where near the amount of songs that you're talking about though. It's almost like it couldn't refresh the # of songs, names, etc... without a reboot of some sort.

 

[drexappeal]

Beware of good deals on large memory cards. Fakes are a lot more cleaver than you think - and fool very smart people. Here's my own experience:

128 GB Memory stick on eBay, $35. Should have been my first clue that something was amiss.

USB stick arrives. It's in name brand packaging. Looks like I just picked it up at BestBuy. Must be legit, right?

Plug it into the machine. Machine says 128 GB. Neat, must be legit, right?

Being extra cleaver, I reform it on my computer. Takes several hours. And my computer says it's 128 GB. Must be legit - right?

I transfer over about 2 GB of data, and they read/write/etc just fine. Must be legit, right?

Over the course of time, I use a bit, everything works good. Must be legit, right?

A few weeks in, I transfer over about 4 GB of data. It transfers over fine. The files show up when I click on the card. The data files even run when I double click them. Must be legit, right?

WRONG! The card is a fake, and passes all these tests. It's actually only a 4 GB card. After I exceed about 4 GB (on my "128" GB memory stick), AND try that memory stick on another machine, it doesn't work. In fact, almost all the new data is corrupt, and doesn't actually work.


Know why? Because it's a FAKE.


Here's how it works.

What they do is take 2, 4, or 8 Gb memory and at the factory hotwire it to report that it's actually 128 Gb, or whatever size they want it to say. Windows just assumes that hotwire is legit, and doesn't actually do it's own real check. And when you reformat it, Windows happily reformats it acting like it's a 128 GB memory stick. And if you transfer data to it, up to it's real size, why everything works fine.

The real fooler is, when you copy over more data then that (i.e. more than 2 GB in my case), and then double click on the data files, why they open up just fine. They do so, because Windows apparently is going back to the original location on you HDD to actually run it. That last test is what really tricked me. It's repeatable, because the bastards got me 3 times before I did the on-line research to figure out this is what they are doing and how it works.

Eventually I was able to reversed all the charges on them via the credit card (don't waste your time with PayPal, they'll just jerk you around).

So if you get a really good deal on large memory. My advise, fill it up immediately, then take it to another machine, and test if everything you transfered over actually works. Here's betting it doesn't. And most people don't do this - at least not for a while. So the unscrupulous on-line suppliers keep on selling them, knowing that 95% of the customers will just assume it went bad, or they got it wet, or maybe never notice at all.

Don't know if this is the OP's issue, but bewarned on buying a "good deal" on memory on Ebay.

And while I'm at it, the cheap Mexican "pure natural" vanilla, is fake too. It's artificial.

Thanks for explaining this more thoroughly. I had taken a chance on one of these fake ebay cards a while back and did verbatim what you mentioned, thinking it was completely legit. As soon as I went to transfer over 30gb of music (just to test), there were so many files that looked like they transfered over, but when you view them on the desktop, there was all these Asian characters on the folders and no files in them!...LOL...I wasn't too concerned and eventually got my money back (through paypal, which I do agree it's more difficult going through them than through a credit card company), but the one thing that baffled me (and I wanted to know) was exactly HOW they managed to make a 4gb card look like there's 32gb of memory available!

I really appreciate the explanation. Couldn't find an exact answer through google.

 

[PyroSporker]

Thanks for explaining this more thoroughly. I had taken a chance on one of these fake ebay cards a while back and did verbatim what you mentioned, thinking it was completely legit. As soon as I went to transfer over 30gb of music (just to test), there were so many files that looked like they transfered over, but when you view them on the desktop, there was all these Asian characters on the folders and no files in them!...LOL...I wasn't too concerned and eventually got my money back (through paypal, which I do agree it's more difficult going through them than through a credit card company), but the one thing that baffled me (and I wanted to know) was exactly HOW they managed to make a 4gb card look like there's 32gb of memory available!

I really appreciate the explanation. Couldn't find an exact answer through google.

Drex and others interested, A while back when searching around about this issue I found a really good blog about fake Micro SD cards. It goes in depth about the Chinese counterfeit market and talks a bit about the caustic and downright toxic economic black market that surrounds flash memory. I found it very interesting and eye opening. It focuses on Kingston brand, but as you will learn, Kingston is just a re-distributor of Sandisk/Toshiba chips and technology; they just re-brand and re-package them (probably lower quality/quality control reject chips) to make you think they come from different technology sources.

On MicroSD Problems bunnie's blog

*Side note, I found it somewhat ironic that when the Verizon-Sandisk cards went on sale for seemingly dirt cheap prices (mistake or not does not matter) that people were buying 3 or more of them so they could re-sell them for more money. It makes sense as an individual because you can turn a profit on them fairly easily. I even considered the idea or buying extra for a split second. But what I have come to realize is that by doing that, all we do is perpetuate the toxic economic cycle that flash memory is caught in. I'm no economics genius, but it seems pretty clear of that much.