SGS2 with little competition. Better screen, better camera, much faster processor, much slimmer and lighter, more ram, much more storage etc. The only thing the sensation has going for it is the sense UI 3.0 which is not miles ahead but still ahead of touchwiz 4.0 imo. Not saying sensation is a bad phone by any means at all, it is an amazing phone from the looks of it. The SGS2 is just that much more of an amazing phone.
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If GSII had Sense I'd buy it right now, but for me having nice UI is very important! As being a web designer I'm very critical about the looks. It's really hard choice, I know when I buy GSII I'm going to regret it, but when I buy Sensation and it's going to lagg when scrolling homescreen to homescreen...
I need some advice. I'm not going to run 100 apps all at once and I'm not going to play games. I'll manage with just few additional apps to what Sensation already has, is it going to lagg or not?
I need some advice. I'm not going to run 100 apps all at once and I'm not going to play games. I'll manage with just few additional apps to what Sensation already has, is it going to lagg or not?
There are several vids of Sense 3 on the Sensation showing no lag, smooth response.
Slashes noted that despite a quadrant benchmark difference, both phones responded about the same for the user, and noted that the Sensation was faster at loading the NYTimes flash-rich front page.
Slashes noted that despite a quadrant benchmark difference, both phones responded about the same for the user, and noted that the Sensation was faster at loading the NYTimes flash-rich front page.
If your a Web designer, I'd go for the GSII. It's web browsing is impeccable. Handles anything you throw at it, and flash does not create any kind of lag what so ever. The vids are evidence enough.
The one where that guy who was clueless about how to configure or use the HTC browser that you all are jeering and cheering about in the SGS2 forum? With the inane pinch to zoom on vids??
Please, no way.
Please, no way.
I did hear of the low fps on the Sense launcher.
I've only heard of that on some models - mine (the US Evo) in particular was constrained to 30 fps - but that was lifted and set to 60 fps, same as all other models.
I'm not aware of any of the new top phone with slow launcher frame rates, but I'll gladly learn if you have any links to share (so I can share with others).
Thanks in advance for any clarifying stuff you find (I'm off to google in case I've missed something).
Sorry, I can't produce links. I think i've heard it in some video reviews and mainly on some forums. Honestly can't remember though, so don't take my word for it! Use google (Y)
Yeah - won't question that for 2010 stuff - just surprised if that's on the Desire HD and later models - the old ones barely had a gpu, by Samsung standards overall. The new ones don't suck - not to the point of throttling the launcher as before (on some models).
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2 points:
1: in answer to the main thread subject: I choose sensation as touchwiz looks too basic.
2: the main complaint about the sensation is that there is nothing new or flashy on it.. it just looks nicer. to this i argue, that as a Desire owner who got frustrated with this and that on android and on sense, the sensation is not a new phone to me, but rather, what the desire should have been.
i think the next time something truly awesome comes up will be when android 'j' comes out (jelly? jellow?) ice cream sandwich is a UI overhaul, and 'j' will be a refinement of ice cream sandwich.. probably about a year away i imagine. only then will i think that ANY android phone has moved on from what is basically the G1 or htc hero being refined over and over.
1: in answer to the main thread subject: I choose sensation as touchwiz looks too basic.
2: the main complaint about the sensation is that there is nothing new or flashy on it.. it just looks nicer. to this i argue, that as a Desire owner who got frustrated with this and that on android and on sense, the sensation is not a new phone to me, but rather, what the desire should have been.
i think the next time something truly awesome comes up will be when android 'j' comes out (jelly? jellow?) ice cream sandwich is a UI overhaul, and 'j' will be a refinement of ice cream sandwich.. probably about a year away i imagine. only then will i think that ANY android phone has moved on from what is basically the G1 or htc hero being refined over and over.
Well I'm quite fine with my Hero's browsing just that it's sooooo damn laggy. I will be spending more time with the phone's UI than in the browser. I would redesign much of the stuff for my liking, but it would take some time to learn Android, even then I wouldn't get sleek look of the Sense.
Noticed that GS II is cheaper in Estonia than ordering one from ebay UK. :O And I can win one if I use my carriers e-services. Getting GSII for free is fantastic, I'm just not sure that I want to pay 600€ for that.
Noticed that GS II is cheaper in Estonia than ordering one from ebay UK. :O And I can win one if I use my carriers e-services. Getting GSII for free is fantastic, I'm just not sure that I want to pay 600€ for that.
TechRadar have done an in-depth comparison between HTC Sensation vs Samsung Galaxy S2
HTC Sensation vs Samsung Galaxy S2 | News | TechRadar UK
HTC Sensation vs Samsung Galaxy S2 | News | TechRadar UK
Page 3 of the review keeps crashing my browser, errors in webpage.
HTC cannot compete with Samsung when it comes to hardware, there like Apple, they design some nice phones but depend heavily on others to manufacture and provide them with components.
Samsung have a huge advantage here, costs are probably allot lower for them as a result.
Not entirely correct and purely speculation I believe.
Here we see the insides of the Samsung Galaxy S - note the high number of non-Samsung components - actually on par with the HTC Evo of the same era.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G Teardown - Page 2 - iFixit
I think it's more to do with the fact that Samsung want to be like "BAM - THIS IS THE GSII" - and they're "kinda" openly going head on against the iPhones. So they've gotta make it the best possible phone they can. Sensation (IMO) rely a fair bit/are beginning to rely a fair bit on their large and very strong fanbase and their solid design, that they've been using since the Desire (which I think is a beginning to become a little outdated) and Sense. Kinda a bit like Apple and the iPhone, if you will. (And also, using less expensive parts and selling for the same/similar price = more profit for HTC, such as the $3 billion of turnover!
)That doesn't go to say the Sensation is bad, because it's not! It's clearly a good phone, but over on xda and just around the web, when comparing these two phones, on countless occasions I've heard "But HTC build quality is better" or "Samsung is rubbish, so I'm choosing the Sensation" or "HTC all the way" and so I think many people are choosing the Sensation, based on their previous experiences with ground breaking phones such as the HTC HD2 and the HTC Desire, rather than the HTC Sensation.
I think they're all trying to build the best phones they can - they simply have different design goals, and have made different supply choices.
As for going head to head against an iPhone - not difficult, Android's growth proves that, many are switching to all manner of headsets with Android over the iPhone, I think. But anti-iPhone success is regional and multi-faceted. The iPhone will never die.
Samsung is a much, much larger conglomerate than HTC - they're in the phase where they have to be more competitive to support their larger capacities, they want dominance in the smartphone market, and they're doing it the Samsung way - wide range of products, attempts at no compromise on the top end.
Reliability will play a key role in both of these phones. Both companies have plenty of room for improvement there - if you've owned each brand as I have and visited the various phone forums, you know that's the honest truth. So when people talk about build quality, they're not talking about ground-breaking Desire features - they're talking about confidence in predictions of reliability. Reliability is always predicted but never really known until some months into production.
And by the way - the continuing comparison of HTC and their products to Apple and the iPhone are quite frankly flatly offensive. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're really damning a fine phone with faint praise, and you're claiming stagnancy in innovations on HTC's side and that's simply not true either.
Srsly, you're in a forum for an Android dual-core phone, with a 4.3" qHD screen and everything else it has to offer, and you're saying that the one-phone-a-year-with-hyper-marketing and a sub 4" screen is some sort of equivalent?
The two of you ought not troll this forum comparing Apple to HTC to gloat over the SGS2 or try to subtly influence mindshare. Remember what became of the guy that tried trolling the SGS2 forum by comparing Samsung to Apple. Just saying: mod actions are unilateral where courtesy and politeness are concerned.
If you have issues showing a true comparison of Apple to HTC, fine - back them up with facts.
But stop this Samsung innovates and HTC is just another Apple nonsense.
As for going head to head against an iPhone - not difficult, Android's growth proves that, many are switching to all manner of headsets with Android over the iPhone, I think. But anti-iPhone success is regional and multi-faceted. The iPhone will never die.
Samsung is a much, much larger conglomerate than HTC - they're in the phase where they have to be more competitive to support their larger capacities, they want dominance in the smartphone market, and they're doing it the Samsung way - wide range of products, attempts at no compromise on the top end.
Reliability will play a key role in both of these phones. Both companies have plenty of room for improvement there - if you've owned each brand as I have and visited the various phone forums, you know that's the honest truth. So when people talk about build quality, they're not talking about ground-breaking Desire features - they're talking about confidence in predictions of reliability. Reliability is always predicted but never really known until some months into production.
And by the way - the continuing comparison of HTC and their products to Apple and the iPhone are quite frankly flatly offensive. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're really damning a fine phone with faint praise, and you're claiming stagnancy in innovations on HTC's side and that's simply not true either.
Srsly, you're in a forum for an Android dual-core phone, with a 4.3" qHD screen and everything else it has to offer, and you're saying that the one-phone-a-year-with-hyper-marketing and a sub 4" screen is some sort of equivalent?
The two of you ought not troll this forum comparing Apple to HTC to gloat over the SGS2 or try to subtly influence mindshare. Remember what became of the guy that tried trolling the SGS2 forum by comparing Samsung to Apple. Just saying: mod actions are unilateral where courtesy and politeness are concerned.
If you have issues showing a true comparison of Apple to HTC, fine - back them up with facts.
But stop this Samsung innovates and HTC is just another Apple nonsense.
I'm referring the parts that actually matter, the SoC, screen, memory, camera?. As in the stand out features which will effect peoples decisions when buying a phone. Nobody gives a crap who makes the GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth etc.
I never said they make every component.
Fine I won't post in this section anymore, who would have thought drawing a comparision with Apple and HTC would be so offensive.
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as much as I like the specs on the GSII, I just can't get over the fact it reminds me of an Iphone.
It's an Android. Give a unique Android experience.
(both in look of the phone as well as UI)
If I wanted an Iphone, I WOULD BUY AN IPHONE!!!
anyway, it seems like from all the reviews, not much difference between the two phones' real world user performance so...
as much as I like the GSII's specs, I'll be picking up the HTC Sensation.
can't go wrong with either phones though, both great.
It's an Android. Give a unique Android experience.
(both in look of the phone as well as UI)
If I wanted an Iphone, I WOULD BUY AN IPHONE!!!
anyway, it seems like from all the reviews, not much difference between the two phones' real world user performance so...
as much as I like the GSII's specs, I'll be picking up the HTC Sensation.
can't go wrong with either phones though, both great.
I'm referring the parts that actually matter, the SoC, screen, memory, camera?. As in the stand out features which will effect peoples decisions when buying a phone. Nobody gives a crap who makes the GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth etc.
I never said they make every component.
You said they had a competitive advantage:
And you say the camera is made by Samsung - teardown for the previous generation says:
Are you terribly sure about the camera parts in the SGS2?
This review said the results were a tie:
HTC Sensation vs. Samsung Galaxy S II: Flagship Superphone Fight! | Droid Update
So - picture quality may be a matter of opinion, and your facts about parts aren't holding water.
And btw - many people care a whole lot more about GPS and wifi in a cell phone than they do the camera.
When spreading FUD about the HTC and continuing to misrepresent facts when you get them wrong and opinions as facts for the SGS2 advantages, comparisons to HTC/Apple based on that are offensive, yes.
Just as the Apple comparisons to Samsung were in your forum when similarly backed by FUD.
If you've followed the patent and intellectual property lawsuits brought by Apple against Samsung, you may discover that much of what Apple has claimed seems to be shoe-on-wrong-foot - much of what's on the iPhone for look and feel appeared on Samsung phones first.
Probably the more accurate statement might very well be: Hey Apple, if I wanted a Samsung, I would buy the SGS or SGS2!!!
gobluejd
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Just an FYI - For the first time, my salesman, actually told me his next phone he needed excellent BT and GPS along with the a good all around phone. Although hard to have a device that stands out in all three categories, it still is important to those who travel (in car) and on the road allot.
gobluejd
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I know for a fact that Early is wanting you to have your own opinion, just be fair in your assumptions and if you post an opinion, say it's your opinion.
What assumptions? are you saying it's not true that Samsung make components in their phones? are you saying that being able to manufacture and supply parts for your own products is not an advantage?
Note at no point anywhere did I say they make all components, that is pretty much unheard of for anyone to make every or even the majority of components in an electronic device like a mobile phone.
Every high end phone has standard features like GPS, Wifi, bluetooth etc, however not every high end phone uses the latest OLED display technolgy or uses the fastest SoC currently available.
I just don't understand where you guys are coming from
In America, none of the SGS phones had reliable GPS, unlike HTC phones. Samsung was constantly announcing fixes that didn't fix or never came out as promised.
And we don't have the SGS2, we're hoping to have it within another month and a half, soonest.
It may well be true that the SGS2 totally smokes the Sensation. It may well be true that it only does in some areas.
The advantage we see in the United States is that a vertical supplier (like Samsung, making many of their own parts) is to have advantages in cost and performance.
Our record here is that Samsung phones cost much more than comparable HTC models, get features after HTC, and while some features like the cameras in the 2010 models were superior to their HTC counterparts, other basic functions failed miserably compared to less expensive HTC phones.
We have no idea how it's working out for you guys in Europe.
From our point of view, the advantages in innovation, performance and cost put HTC on equal footing, depending upon your point of view. Samsung and HTC lovers alike hate it when I say that - and all that means is that since people are all different, there's plenty of good, technically-honest point of view to consider when weighing options.
But to compare either Samsung or HTC being like another Apple is just not in keeping with any facts we can see, not in their dedication at constant improvement (one complaint is HTC introduces too many models), not their dedication to serve everyone (don't just look at the top-line Sammy and HTC, look at their mid and lower tier phones - both of these guys are working their tails off to cover you no matter the size of your wallet, not true for Apple).
Samsung gives you OLED tech. Very cool. HTC gives you LCD tech but sweetens it for media lovers with quarter-HD scaling. Very cool. Both showing innovation.
Apple realizes they're being handed their heads on low-resolution on the iPhone 3gs, what did they do? Doubled it in both dimensions so app developers could scramble out x2 graphics scaling and re-sell apps as iPhone 4 models. Not cool, no innovation, just marketing hype on a word, retinal.
So - the crux of my objections were first in comparing either to Apple in terms that didn't hold to facts without being clear of that.
In your case, you ask "are you saying that being able to manufacture and supply parts for your own products is not an advantage?"
And we're objecting: you're saying that but in a definitive way that assumes we know what you mean, but we can't and it divisive for the community.
Please tell us: Samsungs advantage is with being a parts supplier is XYZ so we can all go either, Oh but have you considered... OR Oh, good point, I didn't know that...
In the case of the camera - we don't know what to think - we want solid opinions like yours on performance. If you say it's your opinion that HTC can't match Samsung's camera because the camera uses Samsung parts that's confusing in our region and to our experience. Couldn't HTC buy and use better camera parts made by someone else? They could triple or quadruple the costs of those components and still be at the same price or less than a Samsung over here.
We don't know everything you do, you don't everything that everyone else does.
When we hear what sounds like opinions passed off as a fact in a phone forum, we or someone else will argue. When we see no traction, we have to play mod (and we do not like playing mod, please believe me - we're just users like you with a kinda traffic-cop job we volunteer for).
Hope that clarifies.
I wrote this in the friendliest tone and am expecting you to be all happy with where I'm trying to explain we're coming from.
If you have other than the intended reaction, well, I'm not perfect, pull off the gloves, tell me what I got wrong, no penalties if there's no swearing or name-calling.
And we don't have the SGS2, we're hoping to have it within another month and a half, soonest.
It may well be true that the SGS2 totally smokes the Sensation. It may well be true that it only does in some areas.
The advantage we see in the United States is that a vertical supplier (like Samsung, making many of their own parts) is to have advantages in cost and performance.
Our record here is that Samsung phones cost much more than comparable HTC models, get features after HTC, and while some features like the cameras in the 2010 models were superior to their HTC counterparts, other basic functions failed miserably compared to less expensive HTC phones.
We have no idea how it's working out for you guys in Europe.
From our point of view, the advantages in innovation, performance and cost put HTC on equal footing, depending upon your point of view. Samsung and HTC lovers alike hate it when I say that - and all that means is that since people are all different, there's plenty of good, technically-honest point of view to consider when weighing options.
But to compare either Samsung or HTC being like another Apple is just not in keeping with any facts we can see, not in their dedication at constant improvement (one complaint is HTC introduces too many models), not their dedication to serve everyone (don't just look at the top-line Sammy and HTC, look at their mid and lower tier phones - both of these guys are working their tails off to cover you no matter the size of your wallet, not true for Apple).
Samsung gives you OLED tech. Very cool. HTC gives you LCD tech but sweetens it for media lovers with quarter-HD scaling. Very cool. Both showing innovation.
Apple realizes they're being handed their heads on low-resolution on the iPhone 3gs, what did they do? Doubled it in both dimensions so app developers could scramble out x2 graphics scaling and re-sell apps as iPhone 4 models. Not cool, no innovation, just marketing hype on a word, retinal.
So - the crux of my objections were first in comparing either to Apple in terms that didn't hold to facts without being clear of that.
In your case, you ask "are you saying that being able to manufacture and supply parts for your own products is not an advantage?"
And we're objecting: you're saying that but in a definitive way that assumes we know what you mean, but we can't and it divisive for the community.
Please tell us: Samsungs advantage is with being a parts supplier is XYZ so we can all go either, Oh but have you considered... OR Oh, good point, I didn't know that...
In the case of the camera - we don't know what to think - we want solid opinions like yours on performance. If you say it's your opinion that HTC can't match Samsung's camera because the camera uses Samsung parts that's confusing in our region and to our experience. Couldn't HTC buy and use better camera parts made by someone else? They could triple or quadruple the costs of those components and still be at the same price or less than a Samsung over here.
We don't know everything you do, you don't everything that everyone else does.
When we hear what sounds like opinions passed off as a fact in a phone forum, we or someone else will argue. When we see no traction, we have to play mod (and we do not like playing mod, please believe me - we're just users like you with a kinda traffic-cop job we volunteer for).
Hope that clarifies.
I wrote this in the friendliest tone and am expecting you to be all happy with where I'm trying to explain we're coming from.
If you have other than the intended reaction, well, I'm not perfect, pull off the gloves, tell me what I got wrong, no penalties if there's no swearing or name-calling.
Resolution advantage is only relevant where the pixels are visible, for games, video and images the resolution advantage will probably never be noticeable to the user, it's certainly not noticable to me.
Even in comparisons with text I've seen the difference isn’t as much as you might expect, higher resolution is certainly favourable but given we are talking about 4.3" screen it's not a deal breaker.
Whereas the advantages of OLED are always present and noticeable, near perfect viewing angles, amazing contrast, fantastic colours, better response time and in daylight at least with the latest versions it's also brighter.
HTC can’t easily go and source OLED displays from somebody else, the advantage is not just that they supply their own products which is going to cheaper than paying somebody else to provide them, it’s that they are world leaders in electronics and can produce hardware that competitors just can’t.
Examples? Other than the GPS issue on the Galaxy S.
Yeah just normal users with the abilty to ban and give infractions
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