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sideload update... FAIL! :-(

droidbaby

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I got my phone Saturday and yesterday I was on the phone all day with AT&T tech trying to get them to push the sideload. After a whole day of trying to "complete setup" nothing happened. I called and called and got different tech support to no avail, albeit they were very helpful. Finally, the tech support lady told me to either keep the phone or just return it under the 30 days buyers remorse time limit.

I searched and searched and did manage to get an exploit sideload from XDA forum. Which worked great except it killed my MMS. I use goSMS now to send MMS which is a good substitute for the stock MMS app. However, I am debating on whether to return the phone and take a chance on another handset. I just don't know if this means that I will be unable to get updates from either HTC or AT&T in the future.

I just want to hear your input on this. I hate to customize my phone and end up sending it back. I know this is my decision but any input will be appreciated as I am super NOOB! :-)
 
PS: If I end up getting a new phone, can I redownload all the FREE for the day paid apps that I got from Amazon? How about just the FREE ones? And if yes, how do I do it?

Thanks!
 
i also used the XDA exploit to get sideloading on my phone. but it totally killed MMS for me. and using an alternative SMS app didn't fix it. which forced me to hard reset my phone, which meant i had to erase everything off my phone and restore it to factory settings :(
but after that i decided i would get the update the official way as to avoid any issues.

so after a few (failed) calls with AT&T reps, i managed to get the update pushed to me after chatting with a representative online (they seem to know a bit more than the ones on the phone)

and if you do get a new phone and get amazon app store on it. all the apps you downloaded are linked to your amazon account so you should be able to redownload all of your apps. i was able to.
 
Thank you. I'd hate to lose my MMS permanently too. The goSMS is working but I can't ever really be sure if the phone is f***ed up or what. By any chance you know what they did differently?? And did you talk to someone online during their office hours?
 
well honestly i have no idea what they might have done differently. and yeah i remember calling and chatting with reps in the middle of the week so it was definitely office hours.

although the reps on the phone kept passing me on to different people because they had no idea what "enabling unknown sources" was. they even tried putting me through to HTC who also said they had no clue what update i was talking about *facepalm*
 
I also talked to someone online (it was around 5pm in the evening). They were very helpful and pushed the update to me almost instantly. This was after I had to reset my phone from doing the XDA sideload way which killed the MMS. I really need MMS so i reset it and talked to a rep online. It took only about 5 minutes from start of the conversation to finish.
 
well honestly i have no idea what they might have done differently. and yeah i remember calling and chatting with reps in the middle of the week so it was definitely office hours.

although the reps on the phone kept passing me on to different people because they had no idea what "enabling unknown sources" was. they even tried putting me through to HTC who also said they had no clue what update i was talking about *facepalm*

I also talked to someone online (it was around 5pm in the evening). They were very helpful and pushed the update to me almost instantly. This was after I had to reset my phone from doing the XDA sideload way which killed the MMS. I really need MMS so i reset it and talked to a rep online. It took only about 5 minutes from start of the conversation to finish.


Thank you... I tried logging in now at att.com but it kept asking me for password, must be something wrong with the site now. I was able to log in just fine this afternoon. :( I'll wait tomorrow and see if anybody from chat will work with me until I get it pushed to my phone. I even asked the tech support rep if she knew why it kept on failing and all she said was some phones accept it and some don't and it would be easier to just replace the phone. Also, that the update was a hit and miss thing. :confused::confused:
She likewise suggested that I COULD just keep my phone since it was in perfect working condition and that the update was just for third party apps. Geeeezzz! Why would I want a smartphone that is limited to one marketplace?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:



*EDIT/

after 1 hour of trying to log in at att. I managed to chat with two tech rep... both times I got disconnected before we even managed to get to the pushing of update. FML!
 
*EDIT/

after 1 hour of trying to log in at att. I managed to chat with two tech rep... both times I got disconnected before we even managed to get to the pushing of update. FML!

Its probably the website that's doing this. Wait until tomorrow and try again to see if it works. It could be that there is high traffic on the site and the servers are working a lot slower = people getting disconnected, not being able to login, etc.
 
It had to be high traffic cause i spent close to an hour trying to chat with a rep and 3 mins into the convo got disconnected. I gave up, until tomorrow...
 
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All representatives are currently assisting other customers. At this time, our average wait is 4 minutes and you are # 16 Thank you for your patience. A representative will be with you shortly.

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Welcome to AT&T Chat. My name is 'Eddie Washington' and I’ll be happy to assist you today.


Eddie Washington: Hello, Carlos_Spicy_Weiner.
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: Hi
Eddie Washington: I understand that you are requesting the software update for your device. Is this correct?
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: Yes, the update that allows side loading.
Eddie Washington: In order for me to better assist you, please verify the last four digits of the social security number on the account for security purposes.
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: xxxx
Eddie Washington: Thank you for this information . Please allow me 2-3 minutes to access your account.
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: sure
Eddie Washington: Thank you for your patience. I was able to submit the request to have the update sent to you.
Eddie Washington: Please allow 24-48 hours to receive the update.
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: This is the update that allows side loading of apps such as the amazon app store correct?
Eddie Washington: Yes, that is correct.
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: Thank you.
Eddie Washington: Is there anything else I can answer for you today Mr. Weiner?
Carlos_Spicy_Weiner: No that will be all.

2nd try with tech support 7 days after the first try...same response. Didn't work the first time. Fingers crossed this time. :rolleyes:
 
I spent a good hour on the phone w/ AT&T and got passed up the chain once or twice --- taht was 2 weeks ago, and it never did work. I got a few messages for about 2 days about that seemed like something was being installed - but to this day i never got the option for "untrusted sources" added. I was to damn annoyed so i just gave up. AT&T just sux.
 
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I spent a good hour on the phone w/ AT&T and got passed up the chain once or twice --- taht was 2 weeks ago, and it never did work. I got a few messages for about 2 days about that seemed like something was being installed - but to this day i never got the option for "untrusted sources" added. I was to damn annoyed so i just gave up. AT&T just sux.



i feel your pain. i'm so excited to get this phone and now i'm just super frustrated and almost want to return it and get an iPhone instead... almost. hahaha.. i'll keep trying to get that update pushed though coz i've fallen in love with this phone.
 
still no luck.... AND I managed to get a hold of a RUDE customer service rep who INSISTED that there was no such thing and that I should go to the market and buy it! Dang! Crazy!!!
 
Please wait for a chat representative to respond.

Welcome to AT&T Chat. My name is 'Debbie Matthews' and I’ll be happy to assist you today.

Debbie Matthews: I will be happy to assist you with this third party update Ms. ***. I will need to access your account to further assist you. For account verification purposes, can you please send me the last four digits of the account holder's social security number and the account holder's name?
ME: ****
Debbie Matthews: Thank you, please allow me 2-3 minutes to access your account.
Debbie Matthews: Thank you for waiting, Ms. ****. Can you please enter *#06# on your phone and send me the 15-17 digit number that displays please?
ME: ****
Debbie Matthews: Thank you, do you know if your handset has the 2.2 Froyo software update yet?
ME: no idea. it is the latest software though, according to the customer service rep that i talked to earlier
Debbie Matthews: Thank you, please allow me 2-3 minutes to check on the 3rd party update for you.
ME: are u still here?
Debbie Matthews: Yes, Ms. ****.
Debbie Matthews: I am sending the updates for you.
ME: ok just checking. oh, i'm not sure if it shows up there but they pushed the update to my phone last night but all it did was send me a msg saying "complete set up" I clicked "yes" but nothing happened
Debbie Matthews: I have sent the updates to the phone for you, they will be received in up to 24 hours. Please select Settings > Applications and verify that Unknown Sources is displayed and checked periodically.
ME: ok



*I'm ready to give up on this. Dang people in customer sevice gave me a headache! I'm going to nap now. :P



going to do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072649 tommorrow if all else fail. tired of talking to at&t's stupid reps who wants to keep arguing with me. they really should send these people to training, or at least teach them how to surf the internet! lol.




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Ok, i got too antsy and couldn't wait. i went ahead and did the temp root, it works like magic!!! I would recommend it to anyone who can't get AT&T to push that sideload update. :-) Imma gonna make a donation to the developer sometime soon (no money in paypal now).

hope this helps.
 
Horror of horrors, I am so frustrated with AT&T.
1. for locking the phones in the first place. Do I really need the Blockbuster app? Really?

2. For mostly very nice representatives, who are kind hearted and want to help but cant because of #1.

I called last week and spoke for 1 hr with a rep who knew what I was asking for and tried, and saw that the push was stuck on 0% and would not go. So they reset my account, and told me to pull the battery and wait 30 minutes and the push would come before lunch. So I want to be clear that they sent something to my phone with the battery pulled so it would not blow up my SIM card. Maybe my SIM could not be registered on the network during the account reset? Anyway, I got the notification that I was a new user, and no push.

So I called after work, and spoke to a lady who insisted that she was fully competent and that I did not need to talk to a second level support. Also refused to talk to her supervisor. 15 minutes later I got the message that I was welcome to ATT, again, and my SIM did not fry, thankfully, but the account reset was not what I had wanted pushed.

So after dinner I called back, and stayed on the phone with an agent as I insisted that I was a patient person, and that I would be happy to stay on the phone with her until she fixed my problem. We worked our way through 30 push attempts, got up to 4th level support, fixed 22 things that they found wrong with my account setup (yes, 22 errors in setup from the last 15 years). At 2am and 4 hours of trying and three battery pulls and resets, she said that the push was still stuck at 0% and that they would keep trying.

The next day, I stopped by the ATT store. The clerk saw me enter with my Inspire in hand and said, "please God, no, not another one!" After he broke down in tears, explaining the 2.5 hour trek on the phone with support and no luck, I walked out. The ATT store, demo phone, could not even receive the update.

I spent another 2 hours with tech support, again up to 4th level, and no luck. They promised a 5th level call back, from the terminator himself, who with the mere wink could crush the entire network. They had found the mother of all errors in my account, but it could not be fixed by a mortal, so this dude would do it on Monday, and call me Tuesday to declare his invincibility. So I asked to talk to billing where I asked for compensation for my wasted time and years of incorrect setup, where the agent gleefully offered me a $30 credit, the max allowable by law.

So I waited until Tuesday, and the appointment... and waited, no call. So after hours of waiting, I called again, and the tech support agent transferred me to Android Return Auth Department. Not what I wanted, and I thought I was talking to 5th level. Maybe the RMA dept is codenamed 5th level as an inside joke? Anyway, after describing my problem, the friendly young lady told me that the Amazon App Store was not supported, and I was wasting my time, and that the other people who had spent hours on the phone with me, and the press release from the CEO was wrong. Then she talked to her supervisor and then apologized to me, the CEO and the other agents. Then she told me that Amazon was 3rd party, and not supported, so I still could not have help. Then she transferred me to a support supervisor, who would not transfer me to the 5th level person promised and granted an audience, so totally denied.

Then he told me to please just take the phone back and go back to my iPhone 3GS.

So I called Target. Two stores have demo phones with the update. I don't. They checked the phones in stock. None with the update already there.

Should I return the phone and go back to my 3GS?

Does the phone need to have a SIM to show the 3rd party app check box?

Is there a serial number group to know that a phone is "non-updatable" as ATT says mine is?
 
i have the worst story
since 3 weeks i am trying to get this update, they told they had send it ,i never received ,as a result i was told to Exchange my phone ,i did it ,again no luck ,they told me to do master reset ,i did 2 times no luck again ,now another excuse - change sim card ,i did it too ,again no luck ,2 days back a tech support rep told me i was never send tat particular update to set unknown source ,she send me a copy of my updates information and it clearly states that i was send a different thing n now she promised she had send proper update and i was supposed to receive it yesterday 1:30 pm but till now no luck . What we can do to ATT for giving us such a hard time ,it seems they are having fun making us fool .
 
Horror of horrors, I am so frustrated with AT&T.
1. for locking the phones in the first place. Do I really need the Blockbuster app? Really?

2. For mostly very nice representatives, who are kind hearted and want to help but cant because of #1.

I called last week and spoke for 1 hr with a rep who knew what I was asking for and tried, and saw that the push was stuck on 0% and would not go. So they reset my account, and told me to pull the battery and wait 30 minutes and the push would come before lunch. So I want to be clear that they sent something to my phone with the battery pulled so it would not blow up my SIM card. Maybe my SIM could not be registered on the network during the account reset? Anyway, I got the notification that I was a new user, and no push.

So I called after work, and spoke to a lady who insisted that she was fully competent and that I did not need to talk to a second level support. Also refused to talk to her supervisor. 15 minutes later I got the message that I was welcome to ATT, again, and my SIM did not fry, thankfully, but the account reset was not what I had wanted pushed.

So after dinner I called back, and stayed on the phone with an agent as I insisted that I was a patient person, and that I would be happy to stay on the phone with her until she fixed my problem. We worked our way through 30 push attempts, got up to 4th level support, fixed 22 things that they found wrong with my account setup (yes, 22 errors in setup from the last 15 years). At 2am and 4 hours of trying and three battery pulls and resets, she said that the push was still stuck at 0% and that they would keep trying.

The next day, I stopped by the ATT store. The clerk saw me enter with my Inspire in hand and said, "please God, no, not another one!" After he broke down in tears, explaining the 2.5 hour trek on the phone with support and no luck, I walked out. The ATT store, demo phone, could not even receive the update.

I spent another 2 hours with tech support, again up to 4th level, and no luck. They promised a 5th level call back, from the terminator himself, who with the mere wink could crush the entire network. They had found the mother of all errors in my account, but it could not be fixed by a mortal, so this dude would do it on Monday, and call me Tuesday to declare his invincibility. So I asked to talk to billing where I asked for compensation for my wasted time and years of incorrect setup, where the agent gleefully offered me a $30 credit, the max allowable by law.

So I waited until Tuesday, and the appointment... and waited, no call. So after hours of waiting, I called again, and the tech support agent transferred me to Android Return Auth Department. Not what I wanted, and I thought I was talking to 5th level. Maybe the RMA dept is codenamed 5th level as an inside joke? Anyway, after describing my problem, the friendly young lady told me that the Amazon App Store was not supported, and I was wasting my time, and that the other people who had spent hours on the phone with me, and the press release from the CEO was wrong. Then she talked to her supervisor and then apologized to me, the CEO and the other agents. Then she told me that Amazon was 3rd party, and not supported, so I still could not have help. Then she transferred me to a support supervisor, who would not transfer me to the 5th level person promised and granted an audience, so totally denied.

Then he told me to please just take the phone back and go back to my iPhone 3GS.

So I called Target. Two stores have demo phones with the update. I don't. They checked the phones in stock. None with the update already there.

Should I return the phone and go back to my 3GS?

Does the phone need to have a SIM to show the 3rd party app check box?

Is there a serial number group to know that a phone is "non-updatable" as ATT says mine is?


I don't know. Did they ask you to return your phone? I exchanged mine as you can see from my horror story, nothing happened. I got tired of waiting and just did the temp root. It is pretty easy, if you've fallen in love with the Inspire, I'd recommend to just do this and forget AT&T. I haven't seen any complaints from people in XDA, everything works for me so far too. Of course, do it at your own risk. (*pretty easy, they got video too).

I also got this rude lady who told me to BUY the update in the market. :eek:
 
i have the worst story
since 3 weeks i am trying to get this update, they told they had send it ,i never received ,as a result i was told to Exchange my phone ,i did it ,again no luck ,they told me to do master reset ,i did 2 times no luck again ,now another excuse - change sim card ,i did it too ,again no luck ,2 days back a tech support rep told me i was never send tat particular update to set unknown source ,she send me a copy of my updates information and it clearly states that i was send a different thing n now she promised she had send proper update and i was supposed to receive it yesterday 1:30 pm but till now no luck . What we can do to ATT for giving us such a hard time ,it seems they are having fun making us fool .

same here. did the temp root... see the link that I posted. I'm cashing in on my daily free apps now. everything seems to be working just fine.
 
Got it to work with only an hour on the phone. 1st live rep of course has no clue. Ask to speak to someone in the PMC dept. that you want the side loading update or 3rd party app update that became available on May 16th. You may need to explain that you don't mean the market place, you can already access that, but 3rd party or enables "unknown sources" app loading. It took me most of an hour because it did not seem to want to come through, but I finally asked if wi-fi made a difference and the rep said yes, turn it off. The update then came through almost immediately.

So make sure to turn wi-fi off before you call.
 
Thanks for all of the pointers with this thread. I caught up with AT&T support on chat today and I was able to get the side loading update / 3rd party app update on my HTC Inspire earlier today.
 
Well I bought the insprie on the 5th rooted and rom'd the device the same day and had the amazon appstore that night with nary a call to att or any of your horror stories.

Moral. Take matters into your own hands root and rom the phone to make it work the way you want
 
Well I bought the insprie on the 5th rooted and rom'd the device the same day and had the amazon appstore that night with nary a call to att or any of your horror stories.

Moral. Take matters into your own hands root and rom the phone to make it work the way you want



not everybody wants to root and rom their phone, esp if they are going to lose their warranty.
 
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