Help Stop Background Running Apps

[Karen219]

Doesn't surprise me at all actually, especially given that two out of the five versions of the 5X listed on WMFW are for China Mobile. They'll be TD (TD-SCDMA, TD-LTE) versions, and these usually won't give 3G or 4G for any other carrier but China Mobile. And the other non-carrier versions listed are probably intended for Hong Kong, Malaysia, Taiwan, etc.

Honor are definitely doing a specific US (North American) version that will give 3G and 4G for GSM/WCDMA networks, like AT&T and T-Mobile. No one is going be selling a 2G only phone actually in the US. Verizon and Sprint, they'd have to do a CDMA/EVDO variant. Huawei are one of the world's largest manufacturers of phones, plus they make much of the cellular infrastructure as well.

I got a couple of Chinese version Oppo phones here, Find 7a and R7 Plus, and they're not even listed on WMFW, it only lists the international versions. There are specific US versions of those phones as well, for GSM/WCDMA networks 3G and 4G, not CDMA/EVDO like Verizon.

I don't know why but perhaps it's because my tenure is having worked for GIANTS in the U.S. marketplace that are of Asian origin (Canon, Ricoh, Toshiba) but it always surprises me when people don't realize that Huawei is actually the DOMINANT player in the game of cellular world. Their ties to giants like Google and Motorola are immense but for some odd reason people think of Huawei as a substandard brand. They are anything but.

Most people don't even know that their Octa Cores are coming mostly from MKT. Actually, I think most people except people like us might not really care about the various componentry, tangible and not, that goes into their product. They either rave or gripe but don't bother to really review before making a decision on something.

With this new arrival my guess is that ultimately they will ship from various warehouses in the continents, not just out of one location. That would be far too tedious PLUS considering the upcoming U.S. Presidential election AND in other countries/continents, things are real ripe for an influx of shipments from countries other than their own. People like to believe their products were made in their own country and shun products they know aren't.

The global situation is such that things are going to get a bit weird on the import front. It would be VERY WISE to fly under the radar just as they have for many years, IMO and for that reason I speculate things might change a little between now and the availablity date on that product. Things never really happen on time and when they do, well, we all know the introduction of the iPhone and in subsequent years the race to get things to market before the competition ALWAYS ends up backfiring.

Too many new products have hit and have taken off (at inflated prices) and now we have the Hexacores hitting and making Octacores yesterday's news before they even made it to U.S. shores (except for those of us that ordered offshore and knew who MediaTek was).

Well... an interesting month ahead! I suppose if we buy and gripe, at least we've made an INFORMED decision! :-D

 

[Slug]

it always surprises me when people don't realize that Huawei is actually the DOMINANT player in the game of cellular world.

That's mostly down to marketing. Huawei haven't the presence, or the PR budget, of the likes of Samsung or Apple.

Most people don't even know that their Octa Cores are coming mostly from MKT.

The Kirin SOCs utilised in the P8 and Mate ranges are actually designed and manufactured by Huawei's own Hisilicon fab division, while the Nexus 6P uses a Qualcomm SD810 part.

 

[Karen219]

That's mostly down to marketing. Huawei haven't the presence, or the PR budget, of the likes of Samsung or Apple.



The Kirin SOCs utilised in the P8 and Mate ranges are actually designed and manufactured by Huawei's own Hisilicon fab division, while the Nexus 6P uses a Qualcomm SD810 part.

Funny you mention that. The 6P is on it's way to me right now. I wanted the Marshmallow to play with. I actually DO have QUITE a few phones (I test them). For some odd reason I wasn't let in on this new Huawei model. I wonder what the reason for that could be.

 

[Slug]

For some odd reason I wasn't let in on this new Huawei model. I wonder what the reason for that could be.

Probably because it's branded a Google Nexus product.

 

[Karen219]

Probably because it's branded a Google Nexus product.

Hmmm.... interesting. I've been rather outspoken about my dislike of Google so it seems to me that I'd be one they'd WANT to run the phone through for blind testing. Who knows? I don't even know how peoople are chosen to test any products.

 

[mikedt]

To get phones given to you, don't you have to be a prolific Youtuber or blogger?

 

[AZgl1500]

Back to the original post.
Some phones can force an app to exit immediately as soon as it leaves the screen.
Samsung phones do, you go into Developers and click on Force App to exit when not 'on screen'.

 

[Karen219]

To get phones given to you, don't you have to be a prolific Youtuber or blogger?

I don't give feedback to anyone but the product source. I think it's more under the category of "focus group". I don't know anything about the persons that write all the articles and such. I would imagine they are highly trained. Focus groups are actual intended end users. I've done the secret shopping thing (UGH!.. never again), and other testing. It's just focus groups, I assume. Never really paid any attention to it before you asked.

 

[Karen219]

Back to the original post.
Some phones can force an app to exit immediately as soon as it leaves the screen.
Samsung phones do, you go into Developers and click on Force App to exit when not 'on screen'.

I've done that but always get a notice that the app might malfunction if I force it. My phone is still running KitKat. Things run all the time until I manually kill them. Since I'm getting rid of this phone soon anyway, I should probably take it apart physically and software wise and analyze exactly how it works. That's how I learned to build (hardware & programming) on P.C.'s.

Hmmm.... I've been trying to figure out how to stop apps for a very long time. Maybe, like you said, Samsungs and some of the provider versions have that software built in. The downloads out there that shut apps down (like battery savers, etc.) I'd SWEAR do downright bizarre things to the phone.

 

[Karen219]

Back to the original post.
Some phones can force an app to exit immediately as soon as it leaves the screen.
Samsung phones do, you go into Developers and click on Force App to exit when not 'on screen'.

WHOO HOO! I did it! My phone (an iOcean 6752) works a little bit differently. I put went into "developer" and just clicked on "stop app upon exit". Done.

That does away with the need to download all those programs that want permissions to "clean" your phone.

I like your answer as it shows simply how to just do that (well... one has to know how to GET to developer) and then they have control over it, not some third party.

 

[Xavier Black]

Ok I liked what I heard about the Android learns by IT self with out the task killer..but hey..if I don't use the task killer, the memory of my rooted galaxy galaxy s2 Hercules drops from about 326Mg to less than 100Mg(critical and slow like a motherf****) in less than a minute while using the the browser and just the browser)..not other application kills the memory like my browser does..so how could I not task killer..and consider that I deleted the native browser off of my phone and installed Dolphin..any suggestion???

 

[Karen219]

Ok I liked what I heard about the Android learns by IT self with out the task killer..but hey..if I don't use the task killer, the memory of my rooted galaxy galaxy s2 Hercules drops from about 326Mg to less than 100Mg(critical and slow like a motherf****) in less than a minute while using the the browser and just the browser)..not other application kills the memory like my browser does..so how could I not task killer..and consider that I deleted the native browser off of my phone and installed Dolphin..any suggestion???

I ASSURE you that you don't want Dolphin if you've got an s2. It is slower than you can imagine and it comes fully stocked with it's OWN bloatware! UGH!

So for browser, get Dashlane. I hate the native browser too. I killed it off on the very first Android I ever touched.

I don't know how to give you a decent explanation of reallocation of memory (I'm SURE someone can though) but as far as a better browser than the native, get Dashlane. It's the fastest I've tried and I don't think there's even ONE I've not. Firefox crashes constantly, the native never shuts off, others are just too much of a P.I.T.A. to deal with and too slow.

 

[Karen219]

That's mostly down to marketing. Huawei haven't the presence, or the PR budget, of the likes of Samsung or Apple.



The Kirin SOCs utilised in the P8 and Mate ranges are actually designed and manufactured by Huawei's own Hisilicon fab division, while the Nexus 6P uses a Qualcomm SD810 part.

I'd have sworn the P8 had an MTK. Well, we're on to Hexa cores now anyway!

 

[Xavier Black]

So for sure I won't have more issues with memory?, keep in mind that I am not talking about slowness..

 

[Xavier Black]

Thanks bro..I'll try that browser you told about..

 

[Xavier Black]

Question..you mean the Dashlane password manager?, that's the only thing I found under that name or any thing close to that..I looked it up in Blackmart, Aptoide, Appzapp, 4shared..and nothing else comes up with that name..I sincerely don't think that's what you referred to..but nothing else exist..are you in Europe?..maybe that's why..

 

[Karen219]

Question..you mean the Dashlane password manager?, that's the only thing I found under that name or any thing close to that..I looked it up in Blackmart, Aptoide, Appzapp, 4shared..and nothing else comes up with that name..I sincerely don't think that's what you referred to..but nothing else exist..are you in Europe?..maybe that's why..

I'm almost positive you can download just the browser but they are really trying to sell the PW manager and the browser is a freebie to get rid of the likes of Firefox, etc., who have built in PW mgrs. but are very unsecure.

I downloaded the PW Manager BEFORE I ever discovered they had a browser as I was so fed up with the other offerings for PW managing on Android. That's when I discovered they also had a browser.

You'll love Dashlane browser! There's NO comparison between Dashlane and ANY OTHER out there.

You can just ignore the PW Mgr. if you want after you download it but I really love it. It's not necessary to use the PW manager everytime you use Dashlane browser either. Only when you want to automatically unlock pages as you go along.

 

[Karen219]

I'm almost positive you can download just the browser but they are really trying to sell the PW manager and the browser is a freebie to get rid of the likes of Firefox, etc., who have built in PW mgrs. but are very unsecure.

I downloaded the PW Manager BEFORE I ever discovered they had a browser as I was so fed up with the other offerings for PW managing on Android. That's when I discovered they also had a browser.

You'll love Dashlane browser! There's NO comparison between Dashlane and ANY OTHER out there.

You can just ignore the PW Mgr. if you want after you download it but I really love it. It's not necessary to use the PW manager everytime you use Dashlane browser either. Only when you want to automatically unlock pages as you go along.

Question..you mean the Dashlane password manager?, that's the only thing I found under that name or any thing close to that..I looked it up in Blackmart, Aptoide, Appzapp, 4shared..and nothing else comes up with that name..I sincerely don't think that's what you referred to..but nothing else exist..are you in Europe?..maybe that's why..

Try going here with the browser you have instead of google playstore (they are such a P.I.T.A, IMO). The instructions are a little bit confusing and you really don't need to read them all... the goal is just to get the download into your device:

https://csdashlane.zendesk.com/hc/e...2-How-to-use-the-Dashlane-browser-for-Android

 

[AZgl1500]

Thanks bro..I'll try that browser you told about..

I have tried a lot of browsers, and the only one that I use anymore is AdBlock

* Adblock Browser for Android - Android Apps on Google Play

 

[Xavier Black]

I couldn't download the browser(and that browser doesn't even load so many pages..like YouTube) it self, and I have an adblocker for a while..but I don't think that's what's eating the memory..when I first got the phone all that extra bloadware apps were unstabilizasing the memory..but I got rid of about 67 undeleteable preinstalled ones..including the browser..so by Karen's suggestion I want to get rid of dolphin because it does really really really eat up the memory..those were a good suggestions though..worth to tried..

 

[Karen219]

I couldn't download the browser(and that browser doesn't even load so many pages..like YouTube) it self, and I have an adblocker for a while..but I don't think that's what's eating the memory..when I first got the phone all that extra bloadware apps were unstabilizasing the memory..but I got rid of about 67 undeleteable preinstalled ones..including the browser..so by Karen's suggestion I want to get rid of dolphin because it does really really really eat up the memory..those were a good suggestions though..worth to tried..

Were you able to get the Dashlane in? I like it so much because it doesn't take up a lot of space and isn't invasive like most browsers are.

What I did with mine was first put the Dashlane password manager in and already had that all set up for Facebook, Amazon, etc. Then when I found out about Dashlane browser everything is all neat and clean. I do have some things bookmarked but you can just open Dashlane PW Manager and click them open that way too.
The tabs are really easy to shut down too.

To keep things tidy I run CCleaner BUT once you get Dashlane in, you have to make CCleaner KNOW it's your primary browser as ALL of those cleaning programs (and I recommend NONE other than CCleaner) ALWAYS refer to the native browser, not the others that most people run, so RAM, history, clipboard, etc., never do get cleaned. That's why devices start running so slow.

So, really in summary, the total of what I run on my personal Android are:

* Dashlane Password Manager
* Dashlane Browser
* CCleaner (free and foolproof... unless you accidentally run clean downloads which you've not saved yet)
* Outlook (as I have my e-mail, calendar, alarms, Office, etc. all in one place... not all kinds of separate apps).
* Kaspersky (for antivirus and malware protection... there IS a free version)

That is the lump sum total of things that make up my phone for primary functionality (of course I have other apps like PicsArt, etc., but they exit immediately now that I've learned how to use "Developer").

EDIT: BTW, it's common for an Android to have 67 apps. Doesn't mean you need them all. SOME, if you delete them, will cause issues with your phone and there are some that are rooted that you shouldn't delete. Just don't start any of those apps. and they'll just be like sleeping dogs. If you already have, you can always back up and reset the phone to factory settings and start over with everything nice and clean.

 

[Xavier Black]

I'll try it again..thanks for asking and the recommendations..