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Swerve for dogs on the road?

do you swerve

  • yes

    Votes: 31 70.5%

  • no

    Votes: 13 29.5%
  • Total voters
    44
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Swerving for animals
As an EMS, Air Ambulance Pilot for almost 14 years (to balance the budget for being a Military Gun Pilot for longer, honest), I flew way too many multi-vehicle crashes started by someone trying to avoid a collision with animals.

Regardless if it's your Fifi wandering aimlessly in the road, a deer, or whatever, the "expert" driver who initiated the chain MCI (mass casualty incident) can burn in Hell for all I care. I could only hope they lived long enough to jot a note to PETA saying they tried, but sadly several humans were tragically injured/maimed/killed because of their efforts.

Take a hike thru a couple trama centers and see the results before you condem the "straight ahead, bump bump, excuse me" drivers like myself. I've even sucked it up on a bike before rather than jeopardize other vehicles.

You have to take some owner-ship in the protection of others when you operate a motor vehicle.

Some days it just sucks to be Fifi or Bambi !
 
HAWK88 said:
Swerving for animals
As an EMS, Air Ambulance Pilot for almost 14 years (to balance the budget for being a Military Gun Pilot for longer, honest), I flew way too many multi-vehicle crashes started by someone trying to avoid a collision with animals.

Regardless if it's your Fifi wandering aimlessly in the road, a deer, or whatever, the "expert" driver who initiated the chain MCI (mass casualty incident) can burn in Hell for all I care. I could only hope they lived long enough to jot a note to PETA saying they tried, but sadly several humans were tragically injured/maimed/killed because of their efforts.

Take a hike thru a couple trama centers and see the results before you condem the "straight ahead, bump bump, excuse me" drivers like myself. I've even sucked it up on a bike before rather than jeopardize other vehicles.

You have to take some owner-ship in the protection of others when you operate a motor vehicle.

Some days it just sucks to be Fifi or Bambi !
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I completely agree with you about swerving and putting yourselves and others in more danger than would be caused by hitting an animal.

However, that doesn't mean that you put you and your family in danger by hitting the animal, if you don't have to.

I live in the country. I have encountered many deer on the road. I have yet to hit one, or cause an accident by missing one.
 
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Let's see, how did I word that, hmmmmm.
Oh, I remember, "the expert driver who caused the MCI". Reckon some would rather chuck stones than actually read what's printed.
Actually I do care, and for all those whose skills avoided the critters & Didn't cause a multi vehicle accident, I salute you.
I have actually avoided hitting a few animals myself, but not at that last milli second when it would be a knee jerk panic reaction, and put others at risk, agh well, probably don't matter, those who just scanned & got wound-up will surely stay that way.
You' all be careful Out there now, ya' hear!
 
Nobody in this thread at any point stated that the swerve had to be a last-minute, emergency, knee-jerk, sideways, panic, skid, flat-spot-your-tires, poop-your-pants reaction. That's what everyone on the other side of the fence uses as their argument though.

The "this many people died trying to swerve" argument doesn't work either. There is no statistic for how many people's lives were saved by swerving. It's like arguing that a certain product is bad because of all the negative reviews online. People rarely go online to post good reviews, so the data is incomplete at best.

Which is actually why this whole argument could go on forever - we don't quite have the hard facts we need to settle the debate.
 
Stang70Fastback said:
Nobody in this thread at any point stated that the swerve had to be a last-minute, emergency, knee-jerk, sideways, panic, skid, flat-spot-your-tires, poop-your-pants reaction. That's what everyone on the other side of the fence uses as their argument though.

The "this many people died trying to swerve" argument doesn't work either. There is no statistic for how many people's lives were saved by swerving. It's like arguing that a certain product is bad because of all the negative reviews online. People rarely go online to post good reviews, so the data is incomplete at best.

Which is actually why this whole argument could go on forever - we don't quite have the hard facts we need to settle the debate.
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ding ding ding

we have a winner!!!!
it is not black and white....
there is a lot of grey area.. where it is still reasonable to make a safe maneuver!
 
HAWK88 said:
...Oh, I remember, "the expert driver who caused the MCI". Reckon some would rather chuck stones than actually read what's printed...
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I read what's printed, and what you're saying is that you don't care about anybody who's accident or circumstances cause another's injury. In fact you said they could 'burn in hell'

Which if you were talking about negligence I could maybe understand a little better, but as you're saying you wouldn't care regardless of the circumstances of the failed attempt to cause the least damage to everybody, you're clearly not what I would call caring.

As for throwing stones; you're the one that said in your first post on these forums that you don't care if somebody who has an accident burns in hell.
 
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I apologize for not being as eloquent a word smith as you. According to my Mom, I'll be right there with them which will please some. She still buckles the Baptist Belt in the Mid West and I was one of those awful soldiers in Viet Nam, and the TV said we were/are just horrible, so maybe I'm living down to standards carved by the media.
Actually, partially thanks to 3 lovely trips to Asia, I love all Gods critters, most with a side of smashed Tators.
 
All these animal lovers, PETA people, etc are the same who drive slowly in the left lane, leave their blinkers on for miles, talk on the cell phone without thinking and then change lanes without warning.

These are the people that need to be run over. Never undersestimate the stupidity of some people.

I only swerve for anything bigger than me or my car.

My motto is "get the hell out of my way":D
 
CXXV said:
All these animal lovers, PETA people, etc are the same who drive slowly in the left lane, leave their blinkers on for miles, talk on the cell phone without thinking and then change lanes without warning.

These are the people that need to be run over. Never undersestimate the stupidity of some people.

I only swerve for anything bigger than me or my car.

My motto is "get the hell out of my way":D
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I personally take offense to this, I will swerve for an animal 90% orf the time. I also am an amateur racer (my ice league is starting soon woohoo) Ive personally built or help built oveer 15 purpose built cars. Never been in an accident, never been ticketed, never once lost control of my car to a point that I couldnt regain the control. with all of ym driving experience, I am still not a "good driver" but I am more competant than the majority of people on the road, and judging by the responses majority of this forum(no offence meant, just seems like a lot of you dont know the difference between swerving skidding, and turning).

The ignorance in this thread is completely obnoxious.
 
HAWK88 said:
...I love all Gods critters, most with a side of smashed Tators.
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It wasn't a question of eloquence, or whether you're going to 'burn in hell', or your war record which you mention every other post!; I care little about any of these things in this context. It was just about why you would care less about one person's accident than another's; just seems a bit dumb to me.
 
Stang70Fastback said:
Nobody in this thread at any point stated that the swerve had to be a last-minute, emergency, knee-jerk, sideways, panic, skid, flat-spot-your-tires, poop-your-pants reaction. That's what everyone on the other side of the fence uses as their argument though.

The "this many people died trying to swerve" argument doesn't work either. There is no statistic for how many people's lives were saved by swerving. It's like arguing that a certain product is bad because of all the negative reviews online. People rarely go online to post good reviews, so the data is incomplete at best.

Which is actually why this whole argument could go on forever - we don't quite have the hard facts we need to settle the debate.
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Hrethgir said:
Let this thread die. The guy who started it has been banned, no reason to keep feeding this thing.
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I agree, everything that needed to be said has already been said and the 'debate' is simply going around in circle now. Thread closed.
 
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