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T-Mobile/Metro Talks

No real surprise, what else is a guy from Tmo gonna say? That the Sprint merger would be great? The technology aspect has truth to it, but in reality either company would benefit.

Both companies have nothing but a joke of a network and are fighting for their lives. At least Tmo didn't let technology pass them by like Sprint did. Like I have said numerous times, Metro customers are going to be the losers either way.

They had a nice little niche and were number one in it. Now the are going to get carved up and the customer base is going to pay the price. Sure some Metro customers will stay for the choice of better Tmo or Sprint phone choices, but plan prices are going to reflect the merge.

To think that everything is going to stay the same price wise but you're going to get more choices is laughable to say the very least. That's not how business works. As I said before neither company cares about you, they care about the spectrum and other assets. If you come along for the ride then fine, if not that's fine with them too.

There just aren't enough Metro customers for them to care, not when their existing customer base is much larger.
 
No real surprise, what else is a guy from Tmo gonna say? That the Sprint merger would be great? The technology aspect has truth to it, but in reality either company would benefit.

Both companies have nothing but a joke of a network and are fighting for their lives. At least Tmo didn't let technology pass them by like Sprint did. Like I have said numerous times, Metro customers are going to be the losers either way.

They had a nice little niche and were number one in it. Now the are going to get carved up and the customer base is going to pay the price. Sure some Metro customers will stay for the choice of better Tmo or Sprint phone choices, but plan prices are going to reflect the merge.

To think that everything is going to stay the same price wise but you're going to get more choices is laughable to say the very least. That's not how business works. As I said before neither company cares about you, they care about the spectrum and other assets. If you come along for the ride then fine, if not that's fine with them too.

There just aren't enough Metro customers for them to care, not when their existing customer base is much larger.

That's what i said but i got crucified for it. Either way there will always be somewhere to go. Preferably a byod company is what i prefer. So tmob can do whatever the hell it wants but being that they really want and need the iphone customers, they aren't going to do away with byod plans and that's all i care about. Where i live tmob pushes 7-10mbps where as i get 1.3-3 with metro. Lte may be better but speed is what matters and that's something metro doesn't have in my area. But whatever though, there's tmob, att, straight talk, simple all with byod options so i don't care what metro does. :D
 
No real surprise, what else is a guy from Tmo gonna say? That the Sprint merger would be great? The technology aspect has truth to it, but in reality either company would benefit.

This is mostly true, but conflicting technologies always cost more upfront and take longer to merge.

Both companies have nothing but a joke of a network and are fighting for their lives. At least Tmo didn't let technology pass them by like Sprint did. Like I have said numerous times, Metro customers are going to be the losers either way.

Your reliance on emotionally charged verbiage indicates an extreme bias and hints at a lack of evidence aside from maybe anecdotal. The potential upsides and downsides have been looked at by everyone from industry insiders and casual bloggers. Somehow you seem to know better...


They had a nice little niche and were number one in it. Now the are going to get carved up and the customer base is going to pay the price. Sure some Metro customers will stay for the choice of better Tmo or Sprint phone choices, but plan prices are going to reflect the merge.

This illustrates my previous point about your lack of understanding about this topic and may contradict your very next sentence. I can't say with any certainty because your use of language is murky and non-specific.

To think that everything is going to stay the same price wise but you're going to get more choices is laughable to say the very least. That's not how business works. As I said before neither company cares about you, they care about the spectrum and other assets. If you come along for the ride then fine, if not that's fine with them too.

Please, explain how business works then? If business isn't about building and maintaining a customer base while extracting the maximum amount of profits possible, then these companies must be doing it wrong.

How can you claim that giving more choices, in terms of phones, to a customer who is paying cash, ever a bad thing? It's pure unadulterated profit. If that isn't what you meant, I ask that you be more precise with your arguments so I can attempt to understand them.

There just aren't enough Metro customers for them to care, not when their existing customer base is much larger.

Percentages, industry best practices, common sense and business 101 would like to have a word with you.


And just to be clear, nothing personal :)
 
These are excerpts from an article written yesterday:

"At a Sanford C. Bernstein investor conference Monday, T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray said Sprint's network is based on a "dying" technology and that T-Mobile's aim is not to run two separate networks, as Sprint did with Nextel's IDEN network after its 2005 acquisition. "This is not about combining CDMA with GSM band technology," Ray said. "We're going to close the CDMA network down."

T-Mobile's merger plan involves moving all of MetroPCS' CDMA customers off that network and onto a combined LTE network from MetroPCS and T-Mobile that would run on AWS spectrum. T-Mobile said it expects all of MetroPCS' customers to be moved onto the new, combined network by 2015"

Read more: T-Mobile's Ray: Network issues complicate potential Sprint/MetroPCS deal - FierceWireless T-Mobile's Ray: Network issues complicate potential Sprint/MetroPCS deal - FierceWireless
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No real surprise, what else is a guy from Tmo gonna say? That the Sprint merger would be great? The technology aspect has truth to it, but in reality either company would benefit.

Both companies have nothing but a joke of a network and are fighting for their lives. At least Tmo didn't let technology pass them by like Sprint did. Like I have said numerous times, Metro customers are going to be the losers either way.

They had a nice little niche and were number one in it. Now the are going to get carved up and the customer base is going to pay the price. Sure some Metro customers will stay for the choice of better Tmo or Sprint phone choices, but plan prices are going to reflect the merge.

To think that everything is going to stay the same price wise but you're going to get more choices is laughable to say the very least. That's not how business works. As I said before neither company cares about you, they care about the spectrum and other assets. If you come along for the ride then fine, if not that's fine with them too.

There just aren't enough Metro customers for them to care, not when their existing customer base is much larger.

These are excerpts from an article written yesterday:

"At a Sanford C. Bernstein investor conference Monday, T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray said Sprint's network is based on a "dying" technology and that T-Mobile's aim is not to run two separate networks, as Sprint did with Nextel's IDEN network after its 2005 acquisition. "This is not about combining CDMA with GSM band technology," Ray said. "We're going to close the CDMA network down."

T-Mobile's merger plan involves moving all of MetroPCS' CDMA customers off that network and onto a combined LTE network from MetroPCS and T-Mobile that would run on AWS spectrum. T-Mobile said it expects all of MetroPCS' customers to be moved onto the new, combined network by 2015"

Read more: T-Mobile's Ray: Network issues complicate potential Sprint/MetroPCS deal - FierceWireless T-Mobile's Ray: Network issues complicate potential Sprint/MetroPCS deal - FierceWireless
Subscribe: Wireless News, Wireless Newsletter - FierceWireless


This man wins a thanks
 
Just a quick question.... Metro is going to merger with t mobile right, so does that mean metro employees going to lose their jobs or they will join up with t mobile and I am talking after 2015
 
Where's the LOVE button.... we were jsut saying that... Straight talk/Walmart

If you do any file downloading or streaming, StraightTalk rips out your love button...It's only unlimited data with them if you use that data for basic surfing only.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
If you do any file downloading or streaming, StraightTalk rips out your love button...It's only unlimited data with them if you use that data for basic surfing only.

Bruce in Ocala, FL

Exactly straight Talk is not the best of options I will recommend tmobile prepaid
 
Exactly straight Talk is not the best of options I will recommend tmobile prepaid

That's what i keep hearing. But i like to see things for myself to make my own assumptions. Plus i only use about 1gb a month so hopefully j won't get dropped lol
 
Originally Posted by Insanecrane
No real surprise, what else is a guy from Tmo gonna say? That the Sprint merger would be great? The technology aspect has truth to it, but in reality either company would benefit.



This is mostly true, but conflicting technologies always cost more upfront and take longer to merge.


As I said, either company would benefit and stated the technology aspect has truth to it

Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanecrane
Both companies have nothing but a joke of a network and are fighting for their lives. At least Tmo didn't let technology pass them by like Sprint did. Like I have said numerous times, Metro customers are going to be the losers either way.


Your reliance on emotionally charged verbiage indicates an extreme bias and hints at a lack of evidence aside from maybe anecdotal. The potential upsides and downsides have been looked at by everyone from industry insiders and casual bloggers. Somehow you seem to know better...

No bias at all and more than anecdotal. I was a Sprint customer for 4yrs and spent the same amount of time with Metro, so know both networks first hand. Industry insiders give an opinion, just like I have. Casual bloggers do the same, so I can't really see a point to the statement. As far as knowing better? I may not but having gone through the Sprint/Nextel takeover I can say from experience that I've heard the song that Tmo is singing before and it turned out to be mostly BS. They are going to tell their and Metro's customer base what they want to hear, not what they may or may not do after the fact


Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanecrane
They had a nice little niche and were number one in it. Now the are going to get carved up and the customer base is going to pay the price. Sure some Metro customers will stay for the choice of better Tmo or Sprint phone choices, but plan prices are going to reflect the merge.


This illustrates my previous point about your lack of understanding about this topic and may contradict your very next sentence. I can't say with any certainty because your use of language is murky and non-specific.

It's hardly a lack of understanding. Metro was number one in the prepaid market, it was a fact. They were the best at catering to a lower budget customer base and profitable at doing it. The fact that prices will likely increase will drive some of the customer base to the cheaper alternatives such as Cricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanecrane
To think that everything is going to stay the same price wise but you're going to get more choices is laughable to say the very least. That's not how business works. As I said before neither company cares about you, they care about the spectrum and other assets. If you come along for the ride then fine, if not that's fine with them too.


Please, explain how business works then? If business isn't about building and maintaining a customer base while extracting the maximum amount of profits possible, then these companies must be doing it wrong.

What I was driving at was that Tmo or Sprint isn't concerned about building their customer base as much as they are the spectrum. Sure they will take Metro's customers, but they are not taking over Metro for their customers, they are just an added bonus

How can you claim that giving more choices, in terms of phones, to a customer who is paying cash, ever a bad thing? It's pure unadulterated profit. If that isn't what you meant, I ask that you be more precise with your arguments so I can attempt to understand them.

Giving customers more phone choices isn't a bad thing, but the majority of Metro customers are not high end buyers so the choices are irrelevant. Tmo will sell it's lower end smartphones, which are pricey compared to Metros low end devices. Prices are going to be more than the average Metro customer is paying now or is willing to pay.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanecrane
There just aren't enough Metro customers for them to care, not when their existing customer base is much larger.
Percentages, industry best practices, common sense and business 101 would like to have a word with you.


And just to be clear, nothing personal

I don't take it personal, even your what I assume is a wise ass statement at the end of the post. You are free to have an opinion, same as me. Hell I served for the right for you to have it and express it.

I just think that everyone who is looking at a merge with rose colored glasses on are in for a surprise. It's their choice though, not mine.
 
all we can do is speculate. no one knows what will happen to metro.

all we know is the two companies are merging, metro's CDMA is gonna be shut down and metro customers will be able to use metro branded phones on tmobile's network.

anything beyond that is guesswork right now.
 
all we can do is speculate. no one knows what will happen to metro.

all we know is the two companies are merging, metro's CDMA is gonna be shut down and metro customers will be able to use metro branded phones on tmobile's network.

anything beyond that is guesswork right now.


Im curious as to how data usage with voice calls will work when VoLTE is in full effect. How would they rate that? 1 minute equals 10kb?
 
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Frequently Asked Questions: MetroPCS and T-Mobile
MetroPCS AND T-Mobile:
1. What was announced October 3, 2012?


We announced that MetroPCS has entered into a definitive agreement to combine our business with T-Mobile USA to create the leading value carrier in the U.S. wireless marketplace.
This combination will deliver a better experience for our customers through a wider selection of affordable products and services, while leveraging the latest 4G mobile technologies, deeper network coverage and a clear-cut technology path to one common 4G LTE network.
Upon completion of the transaction, which we expect to occur in the first half of 2013, MetroPCS and T-Mobile USA will create a new company that will be called T-Mobile, which will continue to operate MetroPCS and T-Mobile as separate customer units.


2. How does this transaction benefit MetroPCS customers?

We believe that this combination will best position MetroPCS for long-term success, supported by the best talent in the industry.
We are confident that, through this combination, we can offer customers a wider selection of affordable products and services, deeper network coverage and a clear-cut technology path to one common 4G LTE network – in even more cities. We expect to improve your mobile experience by:
-Creating a faster, broader, higher capacity 4G network ;
-Offering wider handset choice and lower costs by building on our combined portfolio of cutting-edge products and services; and
-Enhancing our national footprint, and offering international roaming options
Deutsche Telekom and T-Mobile have announced publicly that they intend to grow the MetroPCS brand, both through extension into new geographic areas and through the introduction of a broader product portfolio into our existing network. Importantly, MetroPCS and T-Mobile have the same network strategies and LTE networks in the same spectrum bands, which we believe will accelerate the deployment of advanced services to our customers.


3. Will the MetroPCS name or branding change?

Upon completion of the combination, the new combined company will be called T-Mobile, and will continue to operate MetroPCS and T-Mobile as separate customer units.
Deutsche Telekom and T-Mobile have announced publicly that they intend to grow the MetroPCS brand, both through extension into new geographic areas and through the introduction of a broader product portfolio into our existing network.


4. When will the transaction be completed? What can customers expect in the interim?

We expect the transaction to be completed in the first half of 2013, subject to approval by MetroPCS stockholders, regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions. Until the transaction closes, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies.
Our commitment to you is unwavering, and we will continue to be the nation’s leading provider of no annual contract, unlimited, flat-rate wireless communications services. Rest assured that we will continue to work hard to exceed your expectations.


5. Will my coverage, reception or service change as a result of this announcement? Will MetroPCS continue to offer prepaid, flat-rate and no contract services?

Your service, reception and coverage will not change as a result of this announcement. Our commitment to you is unwavering, and we will continue to be the nation’s leading provider of no annual contract, unlimited, flat-rate wireless communications services. Rest assured, we will continue to work hard to exceed your expectations.
Keep in mind that, until the transaction is completed, MetroPCS and T-Mobile will be, and continue to operate as, independent companies.
Through this combination, we expect to offer a wider selection of affordable products and services, while leveraging the latest 4G mobile technologies, deeper network coverage and a clear-cut technology path to one common 4G LTE network.


6. Can I still use my current cell phone?

The cell phone you currently use with MetroPCS will continue to function and receive a signal as it always has.


7. Will you be changing the cell phones covered under the MetroPCS network?

As part of this transaction, we expect to offer a wider selection of affordable products and services, while leveraging the latest 4G mobile technologies, deeper network coverage and a clear-cut technology path to one common 4G LTE network, which means more options for our customers.


8. Where can I find additional information?

As we move through this process, we will continue to keep you updated on important developments. We value our relationship with you and appreciate your business. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact or visit any MetroPCS store location.


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lol just found it on metro's page but very interesting they say nothing is going to change and service should remain the same so thats good since there wasa rumor about how the gs3 would be obsolete around 2015 but dunno about that.
 
lol just found it on metro's page but very interesting they say nothing is going to change and service should remain the same so thats good since there wasa rumor about how the gs3 would be obsolete around 2015 but dunno about that.

3 years is a long time and any and everything can change. Until it happens there's no telling what it will be like. Hell, sprint could buy both of them in that time frame. Point is it don't matter what they cause it could change the next day.
 
yeah, wont happen for the same reason ATTs acquisition attempt of tmobile didnt happen.

monopolies are baaad..mmmmkaay.
 
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