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my Chromebook is an Intel CPU. but no matter what i search for, regarding the Acer C7, the only distro shown is ChrUbuntu 12.04 LTS. you can turn it into Kubuntu easily but that's it. no Fedora, SuSE, or Mint anywhere to be seen.
Right, but I don't have a problem with that, what with Kubuntu being my distro of choice and all. :D

Moody, the reason our experiences vary has more to do with your 20+ years of UNIX experience while my life has mostly been Mac and Windows.
Nope. Sorry. :eek: Go back and look at the screenshots I've posted of downloading/installing Chrome and Skype on my Chromebook. The *exact* same model Chromebook you have--and that you had trouble with when installing those two apps. How on earth can my almost-30-years of *nix experience affect selecting a file from a site and clicking on it to install it? :confused:
 
perhaps yours is a different series? does the hard drive model contain a different CPU perhaps?

BTW i didn't have a problem with Chrome. it was installed by default. it was MikeDT that had issues with Chrome, i just mentioned it and his screencap to show what i deal with--the picky package manager that thinks it knows best.
 
perhaps yours is a different series? does the hard drive model contain a different CPU perhaps?
As far as I know, no. If it's the same model number--and ours definitely are, according to what you and I have both posted--I'd imagine all its specs are the same.

BTW i didn't have a problem with Chrome. it was installed by default. it was MikeDT that had issues with Chrome, i just mentioned it and his screencap to show what i deal with--the picky package manager that thinks it knows best.
Hmmmm...I thought you did... :hmmmm:
all that done for me was download a Windows *.EXE which of course, didn't work. it was not listed in Software Center either. and just when you think you can double-click a file (download some .deb for Ubuntu aka skype) it almost always produces some reason to refuse installing 99.999% of the time. then comes the half-hour Google search.
 
i installed Chrome fine. but trying to download it from Google.com via FireFox it tried to download the Windows version. a glitch at Google, perhaps?
 
i installed Chrome fine. but trying to download it from Google.com via FireFox it tried to download the Windows version. a glitch at Google, perhaps?
I don't know. As I've said, I've never, ever had a window$ version of anything download [or attempt to download] when I've selected a Linux version. Anything's possible, so a glitch at Google isn't out of the question. Keep in mind that everything we see and do online has actual PEOPLE behind it! Programmers and administrators whose tasks include things like making sure the right file is linked to its choice on a web page. Perhaps someone screwed up. I know *I* have never...and I mean NEVER!!, screwed anything up in my programming/system administration. (And if you believe that, oh do I have some nice land to sell you. :rofl:)
 
Well, here's a [really very] minor issue that has me scratching my head. :hmmmm2:

My favorite weather widget is yaWP. I'm sitting here looking at my HP dv7 and my Acer Chromebook, both of which have yaWP in their taskbars. Their settings are identical. But look at their displays on mouse-over:

HP dv7

tmp_AF_yawp_dv7.jpeg


Acer Chromebook

tmp_AF_yawp_acer.jpeg


The only difference is their version numbers, 0.4.1 (HP) and 0.4.2 (Acer). However, that shouldn't account for the missing map; if you look at yaWP's page at kde-look.org, its newest version clearly still includes the map. I see nothing in its changelog for 0.4.2 about removing the satellite image.

Any ideas? (Other than the obvious: install the latest version! I'll do that...at some point. :D)
 
I may have actually logged the school Wi-Fi from Mint... using the KDE network manager and turning on KDE Wallet, which seems to be required.

Hard to say, though-- I was able to get to the login page in my browser, I couldn't go anywhere else, and was out of time for experimentation.
 
I may have actually logged the school Wi-Fi from Mint... using the KDE network manager and turning on KDE Wallet, which seems to be required.

Hard to say, though-- I was able to get to the login page in my browser, I couldn't go anywhere else, and was out of time for experimentation.
Oh, I like the sound of that! Please post an update after you've experimented.
 
Well, here's a [really very] minor issue that has me scratching my head. :hmmmm2:

My favorite weather widget is yaWP. I'm sitting here looking at my HP dv7 and my Acer Chromebook, both of which have yaWP in their taskbars. Their settings are identical. But look at their displays on mouse-over:

HP dv7

tmp_AF_yawp_dv7.jpeg


Acer Chromebook

tmp_AF_yawp_acer.jpeg


The only difference is their version numbers, 0.4.1 (HP) and 0.4.2 (Acer). However, that shouldn't account for the missing map; if you look at yaWP's page at kde-look.org, its newest version clearly still includes the map. I see nothing in its changelog for 0.4.2 about removing the satellite image.

Any ideas? (Other than the obvious: install the latest version! I'll do that...at some point. :D)
Is yawp the weather widget for KDE? I can't never get any weather thingy to work for me. I'm at work now but will check it out again when I get home in the morning and post the type of issue I'm having.
 
Moody, does your Chromebook occasionally (like after watching a lot of YouTube) go into some type of freeze where the mouse cursor gets choppy then eventually refuses to move, and then the system outright freezes requiring a restart? i think my Flash Player is what is causing it but there is no way to reproduce it or find its cause. that seems to be the only pattern--extended flash playback/use. forcing a restart fixes it. was worse with Unity but still (rarely) happens in KDE. keep in mind this happened long before i enabled root logins. it was worse in Unity that is for sure--would freeze in a few minutes each time.
 
No, I haven't seen that, Nick. However, I don't do a lot of YouTube watching on the Chromebook. I may watch a video, or perhaps a couple, at a time, but that's about it. So it's not a good comparison.

Which browser are you using? I always stick with my favorite, SeaMonkey. Whichever browser it is, can you check its plugins and post its Flash version?
 
Google Chrome. whatever flash is in there came with the install of Linux, only updated. it seems to be a slight memory leak like the plugin isn't shutting down when i'm done and close the tab, so when reloading it or an ad uses it somewhere, it starts loading up the CPU, and runs out of memory and freezes. i did a 'top' and CPU was pegged at 100% (barely able to get to a terminal to run the command) and Chrome was the culprit. memory use was off the scale, and, as it climbed, it got more and more unresponsive until it just stopped entirely and froze.

In Unity, it wasn't just Flash player, something happened if i left a tab open on the Gmail inbox (perhaps sync related?) and that tab would do the same thing, it would make the machine unresponsive and Chrome would go all 'sad tab' on every tab opened. basically 'killing tabs'. i disabled that feature so i wouldn't lose my place in a tab (like if i am reading something)

what i don't get is why Linux isn't killing such a task. isn't Linux, like Android, supposed to kill tasks on its own when it needs to make memory available for something else?

if i catch it in time, logging out and back in fixes it without a reboot.

I stopped using SeaMonkey long ago. it looks so outdated and too Netscape-like these days. i did have it themed in a Netscape skin that made it look like Navigator 2.x when i made a clone desktop of the IRIX system used in Jurassic Park out of mere nostalgia but that was it. (wasn't a perfect clone either, i couldn't figure out how to replace the 'seamonkey' animation with the Netscape comet animation when loading a site, although i was able to change the icon. that mod was done in VectorLinux 6, my fav distro)

I wonder if doing VMs in Linux would work? i mean if i want my VL 6 back, is it passe to load Linux inside another Linux?
 
Google Chrome. whatever flash is in there came with the install of Linux, only updated. it seems to be a slight memory leak like the plugin isn't shutting down when i'm done and close the tab, so when reloading it or an ad uses it somewhere, it starts loading up the CPU, and runs out of memory and freezes. i did a 'top' and CPU was pegged at 100% (barely able to get to a terminal to run the command) and Chrome was the culprit. memory use was off the scale, and, as it climbed, it got more and more unresponsive until it just stopped entirely and froze.

In Unity, it wasn't just Flash player, something happened if i left a tab open on the Gmail inbox (perhaps sync related?) and that tab would do the same thing, it would make the machine unresponsive and Chrome would go all 'sad tab' on every tab opened. basically 'killing tabs'. i disabled that feature so i wouldn't lose my place in a tab (like if i am reading something)

if i catch it in time, logging out and back in fixes it without a reboot.
Strange. I wonder what's up.

I stopped using SeaMonkey long ago. it looks so outdated and too Netscape-like these days.
I don't think mine look outdated:

tmp_AF_seamonkey.jpeg


i couldn't figure out how to replace the 'seamonkey' animation with the Netscape comet animation when loading a site, although i was able to change the icon. that mod was done in VectorLinux 6, my fav distro)
I've never tried to do that, and you know how I like a challenge!, but right now...just not up for it. :)
 
Is yawp the weather widget for KDE? I can't never get any weather thingy to work for me. I'm at work now but will check it out again when I get home in the morning and post the type of issue I'm having.
Ok I tried adding yawp to the bottom panel by double clicking the widget icon. I'm not sure what happen but all the icons (clock, notify, time/date) on the right hand side moved all the way over the left hand side on panel, and I have no idea where yawp went. I couldn't figure out how to move those icons back to the right side.

I ended up moving .kde4 with a new name and logged out and back in to get a fresh panel.

Help with this plz! :)
 
Ok I tried adding yawp to the bottom panel by double clicking the widget icon. I'm not sure what happen but all the icons (clock, notify, time/date) on the right hand side moved all the way over the left hand side on panel, and I have no idea where yawp went. I couldn't figure out how to move those icons back to the right side.

I ended up moving .kde4 with a new name and logged out and back in to get a fresh panel.

Help with this plz! :)
That's happened to me before, too. Annoying, for sure, but not a big deal. Right-click on the taskbar (panel) or click on its little yellow cashew icon (on the far right). This will bring up the panel settings bar--and if you move your pointer over the items in your taskbar, you'll see it's now a...well, crap, I don't know what to call it, but it's not your usual pointer! When it's over an item you want to move, just drag the item and drop it where you want it. Repeat as necessary until everything's back where they belong. When you're done, exit from the settings panel to be back to normal.
 
What about yaWP? When I double click it, I'm not sure what happen with it but it did something, so it seems. Maybe it's not enough room on the panel when adding yaWP.
 
What about yaWP? When I double click it
Wait...did you drag it to the place on your panel you want it? That's how I do mine. I've never double-clicked any widget--I drag/drop it where I want it in my panel.

I'm not sure what happen with it but it did something, so it seems. Maybe it's not enough room on the panel when adding yaWP.
It's probably there, but needs its settings adjusted. Take your pointer and move slowly over the taskbar, paying attention to any tooltips that pop up. Do you see anything for yaWP? If so, right-click on it and choose "yaWP Settings," and then plunge in and start adjusting how it displays. I'll post my settings if you'd like--once we know it's actually in your panel! It can take up anywhere from a lot of room (not my cup of tea) to almost no room (yes!).

If it's not there, would you mind posting a screenshot of your panel?
 
No, I haven't seen that, Nick. However, I don't do a lot of YouTube watching on the Chromebook. I may watch a video, or perhaps a couple, at a time, but that's about it. So it's not a good comparison.

Which browser are you using? I always stick with my favorite, SeaMonkey. Whichever browser it is, can you check its plugins and post its Flash version?

Current version of Flash for Linux should be 11.2.202.280, whereas the Mac and Windows versions are 11.9.900.117. Adobe have now discontinued any more Flash development for Linux, as they have for Android, mobile versions of Windows, Blackberry OS, etc. Sure Flash is a dying proprietary technology, it's days are numbered. Probably even the open source equivalents for Flash, like Gnash, are dying now, and further development stopping.

Any website these days that insists on Flash, ahem China Central TV :rolleyes: should really get with the program and update accordingly....there should just not be the infamous Lego brick when viewing a site on an iOS device now, or Android for that matter.

BTW the BBC got into trouble a few years ago, with their original Windows only on-demand iPlayer software. They're a public broadcaster funded by the British public, so therefore they have to support "public" operating systems.. like GNU/Linux.

EDIT:

Seems Chrome in Linux has the current Flash, 11.9.900.117, same as Mac and Windows. Google paying Adobe to keep development going but exclusive to their browser?
 
Wait...did you drag it to the place on your panel you want it? That's how I do mine. I've never double-clicked any widget--I drag/drop it where I want it in my panel.


It's probably there, but needs its settings adjusted. Take your pointer and move slowly over the taskbar, paying attention to any tooltips that pop up. Do you see anything for yaWP? If so, right-click on it and choose "yaWP Settings," and then plunge in and start adjusting how it displays. I'll post my settings if you'd like--once we know it's actually in your panel! It can take up anywhere from a lot of room (not my cup of tea) to almost no room (yes!).

If it's not there, would you mind posting a screenshot of your panel?
I double clicked it to see what would happen. :)
I found out I can drag it on the desktop but for some reason it go through the motion of being put on the panel but never show up on it. Odd, I know!

Thnx.
 
Ah. That one is different...

As I recall, menu items fall under /user/share/applications

For the toolbar, it should be ~./local/share/applications
 
Where are the actual apps and such stored? I recently installed a game through Steam that didn't play well and I cannot remove it as it was done through Steam and therefore doesn't show up in the Software Center to be removed. I uninstalled Steam but the game is still there. I get so confused with the UNIX filesystem. I can find cache, desktop shortcuts and config files but never can figure out where the apps are
 
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