Dngrsone
Android Expert
To hazard a guess, I'd say ~/.steam
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To hazard a guess, I'd say ~/.steam
Native Steam or through Wine?
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Native. I found it and recovered the used disk space. It was hidden. /home/user/.steam
Dngrsone
Android Expert
Nice list. Thanks for sharing.
Funny story: I was perusing the list [which I assumed to contain only Linux stuff], and clicked on one of the items and initiated a download. Imagine my shock and horror when I realized it was going to download a window$ exe file!.
I thought, oh my goodness, now I can tell Nick that I *HAVE* had that happen, i.e., where I chose a Linux version but it downloaded a window$ version. :laugh:Not quite--that particular product was only for window$. There was no Linux version. Indeed, the list--while nice!--does not consist of 'Linux only' apps.
Nice list. Thanks for sharing.
Funny story: I was perusing the list [which I assumed to contain only Linux stuff], and clicked on one of the items and initiated a download. Imagine my shock and horror when I realized it was going to download a window$ exe file!.
Not quite--that particular product was only for window$. There was no Linux version. Indeed, the list--while nice!--does not consist of 'Linux only' apps.
There are some 'Linux only' apps on there though
I know.
It's just that I had assumed [and you know what they say about that!], from its title, that it was strictly Linux apps. It was only after the window$ file wanted to download that I realized it wasn't. Too bad, too, because the PDF editor app I wanted to download looked good!
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i think we can blame Google Chrome's buggy user agent strings for the improper downloads. it comes and goes. for some reason, some sites identify Chrome as 'Internet Explorer 8' which makes no sense.
I have to disagree here. If I select a specific version, from a drop-down menu, for example, I don't see how my browser can tell the web site, "NO! don't give her THAT file, give her THIS one instead!" That doesn't make sense to me.
No indeed!
I'm not seeing these issues
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Apparently it's only with me. just like i was the ONLY ONE who had issues with Android and lag not too long ago.
Maybe there's some bizarre electrical interference nearby, or SOMETHING that makes your computers do weird things. It's like my phones not getting any reception at home--OTHER people's phones get reception in my house, but not mine. And some of those have AT&T just like I do! But in the 7 years since I moved back here, and I believe I'm on my...fifth? maybe sixth...phone since then, NONE of them has ever gotten a signal here. 
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
It's not that because the ONLY machine having problems runs Linux. the rest run either Mac OS X or Windows, or Android, or some proprietary interface (Sony PS3, Xbox 360, Google TV, smart TV) and run perfectly fine.
I like Linux but given how it makes things ten times harder to do than in Windows probably accounts for why it's not widely adopted by the masses. it's just NOT easy. if the app/game you want isn't in the software center, that's when it gets complicated. the way most distros lately dumb down and 'noob-protect' everything only makes it harder for true power users to do anything with it.
Even with the modern distributions today, there still remains this universal lack of any type of standard executable file. it's as fragmented as Android. it's either some very difficult to extract 'multi-nested' archive (still can't settle on Zip which astounds me) or it's an APK, or DEB, or FED, or whatever. there really needs to be a simpler method for those who were raised around Apple and Microsoft if anyone ever hopes to have them convert. no one who grew up with those systems is going to like Linux because it is that different. i sure the hell find it far more difficult and a lot more involved to do the same things i used to do in seconds in Windows.
then there is the serious lack of Game support. gamers like myself aren't going to give up Windows, which sadly is where the gaming is, just for some free software. it's not a worthy trade-off.
When someone who is used to, for 20+ years of double-clicking a EXE file and hitting 'next--next--next--agree--install--done!' tries to do the same thing in Linux, double-clicks a *.DEB and then the installer panics and says 'I'm Sorry, Dave, but i cannot do that' (or the actual message, often cryptic but meaning the same thing) what is the user going to think? "well, what the hell? it worked in Windows!"
I like Linux but given how it makes things ten times harder to do than in Windows probably accounts for why it's not widely adopted by the masses. it's just NOT easy. if the app/game you want isn't in the software center, that's when it gets complicated. the way most distros lately dumb down and 'noob-protect' everything only makes it harder for true power users to do anything with it.
Even with the modern distributions today, there still remains this universal lack of any type of standard executable file. it's as fragmented as Android. it's either some very difficult to extract 'multi-nested' archive (still can't settle on Zip which astounds me) or it's an APK, or DEB, or FED, or whatever. there really needs to be a simpler method for those who were raised around Apple and Microsoft if anyone ever hopes to have them convert. no one who grew up with those systems is going to like Linux because it is that different. i sure the hell find it far more difficult and a lot more involved to do the same things i used to do in seconds in Windows.
then there is the serious lack of Game support. gamers like myself aren't going to give up Windows, which sadly is where the gaming is, just for some free software. it's not a worthy trade-off.
When someone who is used to, for 20+ years of double-clicking a EXE file and hitting 'next--next--next--agree--install--done!' tries to do the same thing in Linux, double-clicks a *.DEB and then the installer panics and says 'I'm Sorry, Dave, but i cannot do that' (or the actual message, often cryptic but meaning the same thing) what is the user going to think? "well, what the hell? it worked in Windows!"
A few of the open source replacements for the expensive stuff are not really replacements. There's one about replacing Rosetta Stone, which is an excellent and very comprehensive, but expensive foreign language course. The free "replacement" is just something that gives a list of Chinese characters.
Although some of the open source educational software is actually quite good, like the Tux4Kids series.
Seems clear enough to me.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/31.0.1650.34 Safari/537.36
...and if a website is mistaking that for IE8 on Windows and offering you EXEs. I would say there's a problem with the website, and not the browser.
BTW the user agent string for IE8 was a real convoluted mess. Much tidier with IE10 though.
http://useragentstring.com/pages/Internet Explorer/
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
@Moody yeah on Android. but the thousands or millions of distros for laptops are not like that at all. they're very fragmented making it increasingly difficult to find the proper download. apparently, i done it wrong. i thought since i was running 12.04 LTS, that would be the proper *.deb for Skype. it produced an 'architecture not supported' and aborted. in Windows, it would successfully install. tell me, if you were some average joe, what would you think is easier? the only way i got Skype to work was by terminal hacking which took a half hour longer than it needed to be.
MikeDT had a similar problem with Chrome.
MikeDT had a similar problem with Chrome.
Probably been fixed by now, although I haven't checked. TBH I think that was the only problem I've come across in the whole year I've been using Mint as my main OS. I installed the beta version of Chrome and that seems to be fine and is receiving updates. I did run into a problem with Netbeans a few days ago, in that it was throwing some error when building C++ code, but then the Windows version of Netbeans didn't work either apparently.
Which is more than can be said of my trying to use Windows 8 earlier this year, which I've posted about at length in the Windows 8 thread. Gave up in the end as a bad job. Plus also a couple of weeks ago, a rather frustrating day spent in a Beijing computer store to trying to make Win 8 work in English on a new Lenovo laptop, that an expat friend bought. The "techs" in the store just didn't have a clue.
Most of my experience was centred around the geo-restricted product activation DRM crap, and Microsoft's policy of giving full co-operation to the Chinese communist government, with special PRC versions of most of their products. Apple doesn't do this, there's no special crippled govt. back door Chinese version of OS X or iOS or iWork, etc.This one was just awesome..
http://androidforums.com/computers/628602-windows-8-a-5.html#post5777945
"Sure...go to a store that sells a Windows get genuine Gunuine kit.... in China.. LOL... OK!"
There's plenty of Linux distros that have government back doors, like I wouldn't exactly recommend Red Star OS from North Korea. But with a free OS rather than proprietary, you do have a choice if you wish to be spied on or not. If it wasn't for the trade embargoes and sanctions, I'm sure Micro$oft would give Pyongyang their full co-operation so that they could get Windows on PCs there, and make it purposely difficult to use a non-DPRK version. It's all about the $$$$ with them
Wait, did I respond?
Nick, I think you think you're replying to me, but unless my four remaining functioning brain cells have zonked out on me, I don't think so! 
However...
But--as I've mentioned before--on my identical Acer model Chromebook (and see the screenshots I posted earlier), I stepped through--making sure I chose the same file you had--and got exactly what I expected. Somehow, some way we need to figure out why your experience is so wildly different from mine [and others].
Really? SUCCESSFULLY? Let's assume for a moment that the error message was actually correct, and that the version you selected wasn't for your computer's architecture. So window$ would 'successfully' install it anyway, right? Tell me how many zillions of times window$ would crash afterward? Perhaps with no indication that the incorrect architecture program was the culprit? Just random crashes, freezings, BSODs, etc.? Just because something installs, doesn't mean it's going to run without problems. And on window$...well...yeah.
Since I've never had these types of issues, I honestly don't know. And since I'm not an average Joe [when it comes to *nix experience], that only complicates my hypothesizing. But...
And I didn't. On the SAME exact brand/model/OS computer. So I don't know!
I'm having a brain fart right now, so will look back before commenting about this.
I don't understand, why didn't you install from the software center?
Also, you could have chosen "Dynamic" which downloads a tarball you could then extract to somewhere
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Because it was absent from Software Center--presumably because in a way similar to Google Play Store, 'incompatible' apps/games are omitted in the search results
you lost me at 'tarball'
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Wait, did I respond?
However...
But--as I've mentioned before--on my identical Acer model Chromebook (and see the screenshots I posted earlier), I stepped through--making sure I chose the same file you had--and got exactly what I expected. Somehow, some way we need to figure out why your experience is so wildly different from mine [and others].
Really? SUCCESSFULLY? Let's assume for a moment that the error message was actually correct, and that the version you selected wasn't for your computer's architecture. So window$ would 'successfully' install it anyway, right? Tell me how many zillions of times window$ would crash afterward? Perhaps with no indication that the incorrect architecture program was the culprit? Just random crashes, freezings, BSODs, etc.? Just because something installs, doesn't mean it's going to run without problems. And on window$...well...yeah.
Since I've never had these types of issues, I honestly don't know. And since I'm not an average Joe [when it comes to *nix experience], that only complicates my hypothesizing. But...
And I didn't. On the SAME exact brand/model/OS computer. So I don't know!
I'm having a brain fart right now, so will look back before commenting about this.
Windows doesn't care if you're running 32-bit software on a 64-bit system. apparently, Linux does. that was (i think) why its overzealous installer aborted. besides, it was the 'multi arch' 12.04 install *.deb so i fail to grasp why it still produced that particular error, forcing me to search for a workaround online and requiring me to add-apt repository and make it work. i find that i have to do that often on certain apps/games. that is, if i want to do more than browse the web and write documents in OpenOffice, which i would guess is the main use of most Linux systems--basic computer. i am a gamer. i am an app fiend. i download/install things. when i try and fail doing it the 'official' way in Linux (either by using Software Center/Synaptic or by downloading the file and opening it) or if the program complains about 'you held broken packages' or crashes on load, it's a test of my patience to hack this, edit that, add-apt this, apt-get install -f that, until i eventually get it working. i DO GET IT WORKING. but it takes far TOO LONG to accomplish compared with the same attempt done in Windows or Mac OS X.
I shouldn't be blaming Linux though. it's got to be an Ubuntu thing. i have had your luck and NEVER had issues with VectorLinux 6 (the non-noob'd version) and my problems seemed to have begun with my attempts to use *buntu. oh, i can do your cube thing, change endless options/themes in KDE, i can install KDE or any DE, i can enable root logins, dump to a terminal, do tons. unfortunately, app installs are one of the caveats i've had to experience in this distro. it appears to be some noob-protection to keep folks from messing up their system. basically, protecting the user from him/herself. that's a Microsoft policy that makes Windows 8 a total pain to use. i still wonder if it's possible to run another distro in a VM inside another distro. like, since Ubuntu 12.04 is the only supported distro for the Chromebook (Acer) is it possible to run a VM, from that system, to use VL 6 in a VM environment? so i can at least get my system back?
Joelgp83
Android Enthusiast
You know, its gotta be a reality distortion field from a nearby apple device causing the problem. One of my friends is a hardcore Mac user and -no joke- my Win8 install literally, completely imploded the second he walked over to see what I was working on.
I do remember there was a major and much publicised(at the time) issue with Adobe Flash not working with 64-bit Windows.
How do i get Adobe Flash player on windows 7 with a 64-bit - Microsoft Community
Users had to get their geek on and switch to the 32-bit version of IE by quite a bit of hackery. and then hope that Adobe would eventually make Flash compatible with the native 64-bit version. Again this is a problem with proprietary software, if Adobe or whomever wasn't interested or unwilling to make their software 64-bit compatible, then hard luck.
64-bit Windows did actually break quite a bit of hardware, like some printers and scanners, because of the requirement that it only work with signed certified drivers. Device manufacturer doesn't make the drivers and submit them to Microsoft for certification, hardware is just not going to work. Also 64-bit Windows might need 64-bit drivers, and if they're not available, because the product is "end of lifed" ..hello Creative Labs...then again...hard luck!!
These days most computers come with 64-bit Windows. But if you got some legacy proprietary software or hardware that isn't compatible, you might be out of luck.
Hang on, this is coming from someone who has the Linux mascot "Tux" as his avatar, along with the words "Make mine Linux"
Here's a Windows FAQ for you Nick, and I've even heard this one on mainstream radio..The Tech Guy with Leo Laporte... "How do I open this .RAR file I downloaded?" ...BTW Mac OS X can't open .RAR either, not without installing a third party app.
"Tarbomb" now there's a good word of the day.