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They are logging your every key press.

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brucecadieux

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Many if not all carriers are logging everything you do. Every key press, every number you dial, the content of every message, every email, every web site, even secure sites via https are being logged and that log is sent back.

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Every college has a School of Business. Inside there is what is called the Department of Marketing. This is Market research, they want an edge on what you want.
 
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you :-P

This is to be expected with anything that utilizes networks or services that could possibly have any kind of money making potential, marketing being one of the major motivators.

I'd expect to see directed advertising in the near future. Composites of your online activity mixed with your immediate proximity to deliver directed advertising tailored to you. Coupons, discounts and specials that popup on your mobile device when you're in proximity to your most frequented stores, restaurants or other favorite haunts.

We provide this valuable information voluntarily each and every day. Heck, Facebook has been building the largest facial recognition database in the world. If you think your privacy settings prevent them from running their algorithms in the background on all of your provided content, then you are sorely mistaken. We openly blurt out what we like, don't like, who we associate with and what we think about even the most absurd and trite of details. They've even surmised that we have only 4.74 degrees of separation from everyone else in their world… How, by linking our friends to our friends-of-friends and so on, across over 800 millions users and growing. I don't recall volunteering for that study, do you?

Bottom line is mobile devices track, wireless access points track, social sites track, even your car likely has the ability to track your every move. It's the world we live in, and has been for some time, no sense in fighting it, just try to understand it and move on. Unless you're doing something extraordinarily odd or illicit "they" really don't care about the individual, it's statistics. So unless you fall into the outlier category you're likely still invisible to them.
 
Intercepting, tracking, logging, and monitoring private communications and data that is supposed to be "encrypted" via secure sites is illegal.
 
No I am not becoming paranoid. I am a firm believer in my rights. I am a firm believer in privacy. I am a firm believer in the Constitution of The United States of America.

The sad part today is that peoeple just roll over like sheep and accept this crap like it is "supposed to be this way".

You can be assured that there will be a lawsuit forthcoming in the near future about this crap. Perhaps from Electronic Frontier Foundation or someone else, or perhaps a class action suit.

In any event any phone I buy in the future will checked for this rootkit, malware keylogging crap and it will be removed. If it can not then the phone would be returned.

It truly is sad the state of affairs when such invasions of privacy are just shrugged off.
 
All kidding about paranoia aside, I believe you may be blurring the distinction between your heartfelt perceived rights and what your actual rights may be. Amended and convoluted interpretations of the patriot act, along with confusing and vague terms of service agreements have most likely resulted in us signing away our perceived rights without even realizing it.

I don't know about you, but I've never taken the time to completely read all of the fine print in my TOS agreement from my wireless carrier, I've just always assumed the absolute worst that a capitalistic market has to offer and taken that as a cost of doing business with them. Mobile devices are a privilege, not a right. I have no stake in the investment these corporations have made into their networks, nor do I really care what they monitor if I've signed a voluntary agreement to use them. If that is a sheepish viewpoint then so be it.

I have a hard time considering much of this as an invasion of privacy when we've volunteered this information to begin with. It's our choice to use their service or not, no one has forced us to sign up. The evil caveat is that many may not realize what exactly they've signed up for when they hurriedly scrawl their name on the dotted line because they just want their device ASAP.

Should society be coddled and forewarned about such things? Maybe… or should the onus of due diligence fall on the individual to make an educated decision about what perceived freedoms they may be sacrificing for convenience...
 
brucecadieux said:
No I am not becoming paranoid. I am a firm believer in my rights. I am a firm believer in privacy. I am a firm believer in the Constitution of The United States of America.



It truly is sad the state of affairs when such invasions of privacy are just shrugged off.
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Quoted for truth.
 
mjstealey said:
All kidding about paranoia aside, I believe you may be blurring the distinction between your heartfelt perceived rights and what your actual rights may be. Amended and convoluted interpretations of the patriot act, along with confusing and vague terms of service agreements have most likely resulted in us signing away our perceived rights without even realizing it.

I don't know about you, but I've never taken the time to completely read all of the fine print in my TOS agreement from my wireless carrier, I've just always assumed the absolute worst that a capitalistic market has to offer and taken that as a cost of doing business with them. Mobile devices are a privilege, not a right. I have no stake in the investment these corporations have made into their networks, nor do I really care what they monitor if I've signed a voluntary agreement to use them. If that is a sheepish viewpoint then so be it.

I have a hard time considering much of this as an invasion of privacy when we've volunteered this information to begin with. It's our choice to use their service or not, no one has forced us to sign up. The evil caveat is that many may not realize what exactly they've signed up for when they hurriedly scrawl their name on the dotted line because they just want their device ASAP.

Should society be coddled and forewarned about such things? Maybe
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Does flashing a custom rom really help to avoid this intrusion? If so, I'm doing it right now....last straw, no reason to keep putting it off...
 
OK, i am right now...so stick around, i may need help, hahahahah :)

Edit:

whoops, as soon as battery is charged...halfway there....

or can i do it with charger cord plugged it?
 
sushifor5 said:
OK, i am right now...so stick around, i may need help, hahahahah :)

Edit:

whoops, as soon as battery is charged...halfway there....

or can i do it with charger cord plugged it?
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I'd wait to be careful. And yes it will because its a hidden app and is not in the other roms. At least not Iho like backside. Not sure about froyo as they are built off the stock
 
benslgdroid said:
I'd wait to be careful. And yes it will because its a hidden app and is not in the other roms. At least not Iho like backside. Not sure about froyo as they are built off the stock
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Hmmmm....you raise a good point...harmonia may still be spying on me? ;)
 
I once thought we had a right to privacy in the US, but the fact is, there is no mention of privacy in the constitution. The concept is there, and subsequent laws have been written and court decisions authored that have expanded our rights to include a right to privacy (abortion, interracial marriage, etc), but it is not a constitutional right.

As such, it is a right that can be taken away with the simplest of contractual agreements. ;)

That being said, root your phone and install a custom ROM that has been proven to be CIQ free!
 
JerryScript said:
I once thought we had a right to privacy in the US, but the fact is, there is no mention of privacy in the constitution. The concept is there, and subsequent laws have been written and court decisions authored that have expanded our rights to include a right to privacy (abortion, interracial marriage, etc), but it is not a constitutional right.

As such, it is a right that can be taken away with the simplest of contractual agreements. ;)

That being said, root your phone and install a custom ROM that has been proven to be CIQ free!
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The Constitution clearly states

Every subject has a right to be secure from all unreasonable searches, and seizures of his person, his houses, his papers, and all his possessions.

Contractual law.........if they inform you that every keystroke, every message, every secure web page, every email, every phone call, every picture, every video, everything you do can be monitored.

They don't say that, they don't inform you of that. Yet that is exactly what is happening with some carriers. It is illegal.
 
brucecadieux said:
The Constitution clearly states

Every subject has a right to be secure from all unreasonable searches, and seizures of his person, his houses, his papers, and all his possessions.

Contractual law.........if they inform you that every keystroke, every message, every secure web page, every email, every phone call, every picture, every video, everything you do can be monitored.

They don't say that, they don't inform you of that. Yet that is exactly what is happening with some carriers. It is illegal.
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That right refers to the government seraching you. ;)
 
I always read the fine print, and seize absolute control over my devices as soon as possible. That's also why I run Slackware.
 
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