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This is really upsetting to me (UNLIMITTED DATA ENDING)

JSS12 said:
For the Verizon "unlimited" plan.. I keep hearing about the fine print... what is our limit?
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Not sure about the fine print, but the common belief is there's a soft cap of 5GB that might bring you to the attention of Verizon. That's not to say you'll get a letter or a phone call if you hit 6GB one month. I've seen plenty of folks claim they go well over 5GB without an issue (or any action towards them by Verizon).
 
FramCire said:
I am still on an Alltel plan and I upgraded 2 phones from Blackberry to Android. I still get my 12 friends and family from Alltel days and I didnt have to change my plan.

Even if you get a new phone, you dont always have to change to a new plan.

I believe those with 3G phones now will be able to keep unlimited data unless they move to a LTE phone (when available)
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When I moved from the BB Curve to my Inc on launch day, I was told that I could keep my Alltel voice/data plans for now but there was no guarantee of that the next time I renewed.

With three smartphones on my Alltel Smartpack 500 w/12 F&F, I'm saving about 60 bucks a month over the same VZW plan. Yes, I'm getting a really great deal right now.

When this plan goes away, odds are I will change providers unless there's another fundamental shift in the industry.
 
JSS12 said:
For the Verizon "unlimited" plan.. I keep hearing about the fine print... what is our limit?
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The fine print is that the data use is for your mobile handset only and does not include any devices that you tether to it by hacking or by purchasing a non VZW tethering app from the market.

Per your contract, any tethering requires an additional plan and fee.
 
Here is the what the "fine" print says since 2009. There is already an 5g softcap if they feel you are not using the data network within their laws.

Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation). The Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video or games; (ii) server devices or http://www.droidforums.net/forum/# applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute or
for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a month.

For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using an Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.
 
then again, read this. It says softcap of 5g is only for mobile broadband connect . It's all confusing. it basically says you do have unlimited but if you go over, they reserve the right to monitor your usage and see what you're doing, and if what you're doing is within their terms and conditions

The $30 plan that you got to surf the web and to play with your apps. This plan includes "UNLIMITED" data usage. It does NOT have 5GB cap. This has been confirmed by 3 verizon reps on our site. Also confirmed if you read the terms and conditions of the data plan you purchase. The terms and conditions can be found on their website, or below this paragraph.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/at...misconceptions-unlimited-data-30planterms.pdf
 
Once I'm out of contract, I hope this super WiFi network they just approved is up and running. Not entirely sure how this is different from service like Clear.

An article I read claimed a city the size of Chicago could be covered completely by just five or six of the super WiFi hotspots.

I just hope this phone or my next one is compatible. Waiting for the day I pay one company for internet then have it on all my devices, no matter where I go.
 
If verizon, att, etc decide to end unlimited plans, then we'll just have to wait for a new company to introduce one for those who need them. Then this new company can grow and verizon , att can fade into oblivion as far as im concerned because of their greedyness.

A lot of people now are saying "oh we don't need more than 15 MBs per month" but this is because were just getting our hands on these new superphones, and only the beginning of possibilities with the internet and apps.

As higher speed networks become the norm, people may find themselves streaming more content (music, video), maybe downloading bigger apps (the newest swype is 30 MBs compared to the previous being 3MBs), and involved in more hi def video/photo sharing. Not to mention tethering possibly replacing home networks.

So it may not be that big of a deal today but it will in a couple of years.

What's the big problem anyways, a couple of times during the day when the network becomes congested but then speeds up after a little bit. I'd rather deal with that and have my unlimited plan than to pay almost the same price for 2 gbs (att) then 10 bucks for each additional MB. This is old landline phone company mentality and hopefully verizon steers clear of it or it may come back and bite them in the *ss .

Thanks for letting me vent, i normally don't post such angry b.s. but as the O.P. said this is a real bummer.
 
kyler13 said:
Not sure this is the best idea. While you can get two cans for FREE on a 2-year contract, Verizon will be charging $20/month for 10ft of string, and $5 per foot overage.
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If you want high speed coverage (fishing line) it will cost an extra $15/month..

always nickels and dimes
 
I got my 2 year plan back in June so I am good for close to two years. It will be interesting to see what changes that the market forces & competition will bring by then. Who knows maybe advances in wifi availability will allow us to get data in more places for free by then or sometime in the future and that will bring about a change in the way phone companies formulate their plans. But until then, I am using all I can!!
 
Let's say i have a $30 Unlimited Data Plan for smartphone

and use PDANet or Easytether or Free Wireless Tethering for my laptop's internet.

I download movies, animations, dramas, etc.............

it can be more than 3gb per week, so about 12gb per month.

am i going to be in trouble if i use like this?

very curious....and confusing.......
 
lentm said:
Let's say i have a $30 Unlimited Data Plan for smartphone

and use PDANet or Easytether or Free Wireless Tethering for my laptop's internet.

I download movies, animations, dramas, etc.............

it can be more than 3gb per week, so about 12gb per month.

am i going to be in trouble if i use like this?

very curious....and confusing.......
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Did you not read the thread? Your question is answered like 6 posts above yours.
 
jeezuz said:
A lot of people now are saying "oh we don't need more than 15 MBs per month" but this is because were just getting our hands on these new superphones, and only the beginning of possibilities with the internet and apps.
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I agree with this; I always use on average around 2GB but what really limits my use is my battery. As of right now I barely use the phone on the weekends but around when I first got my phone I was using 2GB a month just on the weekends.
 
FramCire said:
I am still on an Alltel plan and I upgraded 2 phones from Blackberry to Android. I still get my 12 friends and family from Alltel days and I didnt have to change my plan.

Even if you get a new phone, you dont always have to change to a new plan.

I believe those with 3G phones now will be able to keep unlimited data unless they move to a LTE phone (when available)
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New plan is different than renewing your contract. When you upgrade your phone, you enter into a new 2 year contract, with the new contract terms (which may include tiered data pricing). However, it wouldn't surprise me if Verizon does allow 3g users to remain with the unlimited data unless and until they switch to LTE.
 
Its called raising fees you charge customers but doing it slowly so they don't notice. First you introduce data tiers but set them at levels where only 1% are impacted. The 99% that aren't impacted accept the change like sheep being led to the slaughter. Then a year or two later you start applying the tiers to everyone (you argument at this point is it is not fair that the 99% are getting afree ride at the expense of the 1%). This fee increase can be tiny but since it applies to a big group it will bring in huge profits. A good example is ATM fees. They used to be free. Use an ATM, we won't charge you because you are saving us money (we don't have to hire as many bank tellers). Then when you get addicted to the convenience of ATMs they raise the fees (because we must pay to buy and maintain these things).
 
Existing customers will probably have a chance of keeping their current data agreements, even with a new device- if not an LTE data plan. All VZW appear to be doing is prepping for the iPhone and perhaps an iPad agreement too. A lot of people moving to VZW will cause a hit on their network.

Verizon will not want to compromise their current install base of users, unless of course Sprint and Tmo go this route too. Sprint has been hinting at it, so maybe they are starting to act like the airlines with "stealth" collusion?

Regardless, a system-wide tier effort by carriers would kill streaming video growth and other high speed markets, that were ironically triggered by the faster speed networks. Notice I said "growth" and not kill them outright.
 
jclake said:
Its called raising fees you charge customers but doing it slowly so they don't notice. First you introduce data tiers but set them at levels where only 1% are impacted. The 99% that aren't impacted accept the change like sheep being led to the slaughter.
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Ok stop. 'accept the change'? Really? As if anything could stop it. They do what they want, we take it or leave it, simple as that. And putting up with it now doesn't prevent us from leaving it later, but it doesn't matter because they will still just do what they want.

30 bucks a month for unlimited data that prohibits tethering is highway robbery already to me. There are no alternatives.
 
I'm 45% into my current month, and I'm only at 7mb of 3G data. And that's with daily music and video streaming, social media use, web-surfing, tons of email, and anything else you can think of. But then too, I'm almost always using WiFi everywhere I go (it's actually a rather uncommon occurrence in Denver where you can't get a WiFi signal).

I personally welcome the tiered data plans since it will more than likely save me a few coins. And I don't wear a tinfoil hat thinking VZW is out to screw me in the long run.
 
It's all the tethering you bastards are doing ;). They're all doing it so it makes sense. And to the person who said it was unreasonable to charge 30 bucks and not allow tethering, lmao.
 
What I read was that a customer's current device will be exempt from a tiered plan for the life of their current device on their current plan. But, that really gives you about two years until you get sick of the phone and gotta get something new...

LTE devices will not be tiered at first but they will be when the system is used more.
 
Why would I be sick of my Incredible after 2 years? Will the technology leap such a lot by then? What will a smartphone do in 2 more years that is so different ftom today? Will there be a reach around button?
 
Minimike said:
Why would I be sick of my Incredible after 2 years? Will the technology leap such a lot by then? What will a smartphone do in 2 more years that is so different ftom today? Will there be a reach around button?
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Are you serious?? Computing power doubles every 18 months on average. Phones two years from now will cost less and do more.

These are just a few things that are predicted for the next gen smart phones according to the reading I've done.

Wireless charging
Wireless file sharing
Wireless HDMI output
Internal photo printer
Internal HD projector
Expandable and flexible touch screens
12+ mp Cameras with 1080p video capture
Video calls

Above all, the thing I want more than anything are the new batteries being developed. Shaking the device causes a chemical reaction in the battery and it charges itself. This maybe more than two years off but its definitely the way to go for mobil devices.
 
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