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Root Titanium Backup Issues

Chief YYZ

Chief YYZ

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I've had 2 separate issues with TB this week.

After I run a scheduled task with Titanium, the phone loses most audio. Ringtones, notifications, alarms, flash player, gallery videos, and I'm sure more, have no sound until I reboot the phone. Poweramp plays music fine, only seems to be system apps. I have done the H/K mod and Viper4Android.

I just realized it must be TB this morning after the second time my alarm did not go off to wake me up for work, I do set an actual alarm clock as a backup, so no harm done. Only run TB a few times since I got the phone less than 4 weeks ago, with all the rebooting on a newly rooted phone I probably fixed it without even realizing it was happening before, so I don't have much observational information yet.

Also, every time I try to sync backups to Google Drive, it craps out on me eventually. No real pattern, sometimes I get a few hundred MB, sometimes a couple dozen or less. Always tells me it failed due to a network issue. This is on a rather fast Comcast WiFi, speedtests run before and after usually show 25ish Mb/sec up (I get up to 50+ Mb/sec down.)

I always leave stay awake (never sleep while charging) checked in Developer Options. If I want the screen off, I'll turn it off. When it's plugged in I don't need to save battery, and it saves the worry I might forget to check it while doing something critical.

Not sure where to start troubleshooting on either of these issues. As I type this Root Explorer is copying a 4.1 GB Nandroid to Drive, will see if any issues there. For the moment I have set TB to reboot phone after schedules, should be a workaround with the sound issue for now.
 
TB started making me freaking crazy a few years ago.

I still think it's the best.

I'm sure any complaints I have could be solved by more competence on my part.

But between TB adding features and Android adding complexity, I surrender.

I use MyBackup Root.

It's not perfect. It's not swift. It won't do accounts and settings.

It will go through an update cycle where sometimes it wants to hang or crash if you throw too big a backup at it.

But I find I can enter or fix by hand faster than dealing with TB.

That's just my 2 cents.
 
bummer :-(
for me I've always found TB better than my backup.. just seems to work well.. plus it let me freeze the update app :-)
hope you get it sorted
 
i still use TiBu as well,and have never had any issue that i would think came from it. my needs are pretty simple- i use it to freeze/delete and every few days ill do a manual backup of new apps/versions,and redo old backups.

for whatever thats worth ;) :p
 
So this business about syncing to Drive is interesting.

I decided to try some things with a nandroid.

First, the Drive app is having no part of uploading a folder. So I used the app to make the folder and then found out that it wouldn't let me select all of the contents to upload. The option is there, but grayed out.

So, I turned to the old standby - ES File Explorer (that I use for app freezing fwiw lol).

And it seems to have accepted the idea that I can copy a TWRP folder to Drive, so that's in progress right now.

Except - it's of the opinion that it can only upload at about 102 KB/s and only in short bursts, with more time idle than transmitting.

It's telling me that it could need up to 8 hours to transfer 2.5 GB.

I don't have Comcast, but I do often have 5 Mbps or better up - so - 500 KB/s is possible. But it's variable.

And that's ridiculous. Over that period of time, any number of network refreshes by the phone, or memory management operations, or about three or four other things, can drop a stitch and that upload is going to fail.

I don't know if that inefficiency is caused by Drive, EStrongs, the phone or what.

It's certainly not my network.

So, let's cancel that and try Dropbox.

Ah. I see my Chinese friends are back to not presenting the Dropbox login page with Adaway installed. (Note to self, check if they once again are routing that login through their servers and if so, make good on the threat that I laid on them when they released the beta - I gave them their chance.)

So, I turned to the Dropbox app. It's pretty brain dead but I could select all the files in a local storage (only) nandroid (really Dropbox? I'm not going to miss you if that's your idea of a quality update) and I find...

Half of the boot.img backup screams right up there and then it takes a while to upload the remaining 8 MB.

So, results are inconclusive.

Need to check this further.

Chief, how did your other upload attempt go?

And btw - surprised and happy that no one seems to have been bitten by the TB thing from a few years ago where everything would go south if you restored your phone id (I think that's what it was called, don't remember precisely).

Wait.

Let's reinstall that old school file manager that somehow always could save the day years ago...

Check out "X-plore File Manager"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lonelycatgames.Xplore

X-plore why did I ever give you up? I didn't like some of the eye candy.

But you're up to date, your interface didn't send me off learning about a bunch of needless changes and your dual panel goodness makes folder copying simpler and more straightforward than anything else.

Explore to the Drive folder in the left (main) panel. Go to the right panel, surf down to my nandroid folder. Tap the check mark. Now it's red. Tap the copy button - and it's off doing the copy to Drive. Even gives a nice progress bar in the notifications that will take me straight back to the app.

And - it's clipping along at anywhere from 87 to 136 KB/s right now - without pausing or stuttering.

So - a direct pipe up without a lot of nonsense - the M8 can do it, no question.

I suppose I ought to kill the thing and go speedtest properly from my desktop and see why it's a bit slow. Could be my neighborhood on a holiday...

And I guess I ought to profile upload speed from my laptop while I'm at it.

Or I could let it run a while and see how it does...

In any case, I'm not getting out of going to WifelyMon's friends place for the 4th. Color me overjoyed, because hanging out with them is just going to be so much more fun than figuring this out. :rolleyes: (And no, I'm not an anti-social geek. I just don't suffer fools lightly.)
 
OK, according to my modem, they're only serving me with about 1 Mbps up right now.

So, it's my DSL ISP. No big deal.

But clearly, some apps are better than others.

And - I don't have my laptop auto syncing Drive, so I got that going for me.

But I know (edit - I think) that one file has uploaded, yet no Drive login from anywhere shows it.

Is this thing dumb like Gmail and not able to accept unknown file types - and executables?

Hmmmm...
 
OK, by the math 2.5 GB / 100 KB/s = 7 hours.

I'm at 1:20 in. :(

Time to abort. :(

I think that this has to be one of those things that I upload to my laptop and let it take its time syncing.

Which - is hardly the point of cloud syncing, but I hope that the numbers and findings are useful.

Especially about X-plore.

Accept no substitutes! :)
 
EarlyMon said:
OK, by the math 2.5 GB / 100 KB/s = 7 hours.

I'm at 1:20 in. :(

Time to abort. :(

I think that this has to be one of those things that I upload to my laptop and let it take its time syncing.

Which - is hardly the point of cloud syncing, but I hope that the numbers and findings are useful.

Especially about X-plore.

Accept no substitutes! :)
Click to expand...

Yeah,gotta luv da cloud,Best thing since sliced bread....:rolleyes:

Bookmarked X-Plore in Google Play Store. :thumbup:

THX! :)
 
Been too busy the last couple of days to mess with multi-hour uploads.

I forgot to go plug my phone in last time, so it fell asleep and failed.

Root Explorer chugging along right now with a 3 GB Nandroid.

Wait, nope, got to ~750 MB and and failed. Before that is was consistently showing current time + remaining time at right about 1 hour 45 minutes. Retrying once more, then will try other upload methods. Only about 10% in, but showing less than an hour and a half this time. That's still only about a fifth of the speed I got on upload from speedtest before starting.
 
Depending on the project I'm on, I'll give this a try on LTE see if it works on Monday.

I've always transferred to my PC, then uploaded to dropbox, and now drive. I've never had a reason to download an entire nandroid from the cloud yet, so I'm no help from that perspective either.

There isn't a max file size restriction on drive is there?
 
Granite1 said:
Depending on the project I'm on, I'll give this a try on LTE see if it works on Monday.

I've always transferred to my PC, then uploaded to dropbox, and now drive. I've never had a reason to download an entire nandroid from the cloud yet, so I'm no help from that perspective either.

There isn't a max file size restriction on drive is there?
Click to expand...

I couldn't find a reference to one.
 
Ooooooh...

X-Plore, now that's the stuff.

Speed moving around a bit but seems to be 2-2.7 MB/sec pretty consistently.

Damnit, I'm gonna have a dozen file managers on my phone. :)

Any problems uninstalling/freezing the ones that came with the phone and Viper?

Now that reminds me, is there a thread on safe apps to uninstall/freeze for Sprint/Viper?
 
Chief YYZ said:
Ooooooh...

X-Plore, now that's the stuff.

Speed moving around a bit but seems to be 2-2.7 MB/sec pretty consistently.

Damnit, I'm gonna have a dozen file managers on my phone. :)

Any problems uninstalling/freezing the ones that came with the phone and Viper?

Now that reminds me, is there a thread on safe apps to uninstall/freeze for Sprint/Viper?
Click to expand...

No such thread yet, and I've only frozen a little, so I don't know what's what yet.
 
It did work.

Gave me a "Can't write to file" error on system.ext4.win001, but had a skip button that allowed the upload to continue. Just copied that one file over after the rest was done.
 
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