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Dagan

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With all this talk about froyo?? and gingerbread?? and devices already getting updates left and right..

Is my vibrant going to get anything or should I just go back to a crackberry? (at least then I know that what I get is what I get and there aint nuttn for it)

Dont get me wrong, I love android...but I refuse to settle for a pinto when everyone else is getting a BMW :cool:
 
Dagan sorry to see you leave... Have a great time with your BB.

Well I am not really sorry to see him leave but I am tired of people bitching bout stupid shit so goodbye! If he thinks 1ghz and the Best screen on the market right now is a pinto he deserves his BB Storm or Maybe the Curve 82x0 to 99XX and yes i did call every stinking phone RIM has put out in the last 5 years a Curve. They all the the same nothing big has changed between them all. Hell before I came to Android I carried a 8900 (Personal) and Tour (Work) Being almost a year apart in build they looked damn near identical and I got sick of it (Reason for going with an Android Phone)
 
Dagan said:
With all this talk about froyo?? and gingerbread?? and devices already getting updates left and right..

Is my vibrant going to get anything or should I just go back to a crackberry? (at least then I know that what I get is what I get and there aint nuttn for it)

Dont get me wrong, I love android...but I refuse to settle for a pinto when everyone else is getting a BMW :cool:
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Dagan,

Your anger is justified. Samsung and T-Mobile have showed very little interest in keeping Vibrant owners happy. Personally I think most consumers are pushovers, otherwise a class action lawsuit would have been in order. I have no doubt that executives at both Samsung and T-Mobile were very well aware that the phone had a hardware GPS issues, yet the phone was still released.

At this point you own the phone, so try to make the best of it. JL5 has just been released, and it is very stable. JL5 is Froyo 2.2, from Samsung/T-Mobile. Someone at XDA snatched it off samsungs servers. It is as close to an official OTA as we will get for now.

Like you I kept waiting for something official, but I lost my patience. I rooted, and started installing custom roms. Educate yourself, learn about rooting and installing custom roms. Learn the risks, and learn about odin. Then I suggest you install JL5, and just enjoy Froyo!
 
JL5, JL4, JL1, JK6, etc etc etc are all "pre-release test builds" for the official T-Mobile Vibrant 2.2 update. Someone from Samsung is leaking them, and the community at large are using them.



I'm personally on a JL1-based setup, and I can say even "back then" four revisions ago, this thing is top-notch.

When 2.2 DOES come out, I think a lot of people will be glad they kept the Vibrant... Especially if Samsung uses the same updated RFS driver that Eugene does.

This phone is fast.



Oh, and 2.3 will probably be even faster: No RFS support, so we'll all be running Ext4 (Basically the VooDoo lag fix is built in)
 
Daedalus said:
Dagan sorry to see you leave... Have a great time with your BB.

Well I am not really sorry to see him leave but I am tired of people bitching bout stupid shit so goodbye! If he thinks 1ghz and the Best screen on the market right now is a pinto he deserves his BB Storm or Maybe the Curve 82x0 to 99XX and yes i did call every stinking phone RIM has put out in the last 5 years a Curve. They all the the same nothing big has changed between them all. Hell before I came to Android I carried a 8900 (Personal) and Tour (Work) Being almost a year apart in build they looked damn near identical and I got sick of it (Reason for going with an Android Phone)
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You took several minutes outta your day to bitch about somebody bitching about the Vibrant and then took more time to bitch about Blackberry?


Dagan, I feel your pain. I went through 3 Vibrants before I finally gave up and took SamsungVibrants(forum member, not the phone) advice in my thread that I started and decided to hold off till next year. He was right when he said we are about to recieve a revolution of new phones. Their is going to be an android army coming Q1

I decided to reroot and flash a 2.2 rom into my phone. Its not the route everyone should go or even one that you should have to but it is an option. The phone really is a great phone phone cause of the hardware but Samsung is nothing but a bunch dicks for the lies and broken promises they put out.

If you don't want to root and are able to sell or return the phone and your truly not happy, do it. Go back to Blackberry and wait till the new phones are introduced.

SV also put me onto the LG 2X. Try googling that and see what that and see how you feel about that phone. I'm obsessed with it and need to know if its coming to Tmo cause most likely I will be following whatever carrier that phone goes to. Even though its going to cost an arm and a leg, that phone could very well be worth every limb.
 
Dagan said:
With all this talk about froyo?? and gingerbread?? and devices already getting updates left and right..

Is my vibrant going to get anything or should I just go back to a crackberry? (at least then I know that what I get is what I get and there aint nuttn for it)

Dont get me wrong, I love android...but I refuse to settle for a pinto when everyone else is getting a BMW :cool:
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As a previous BlackBerry user for 4 years, I can honestly ask what the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKY STICKS are you thinking, referencing a BB to BMW while Android is a Pinto?!? Have you even turned your Vibrant ON? Hah :) The answer is the same answer that any CrackBerry addict will already know...go with a custom ROM and stop waiting for the official ones. I never waited for official OS's on CrackBerry, I always installed the most recent leak that got great reviews. T-Mobile is always behind when it comes to updates. Don't kid yourself thinking it's better on the BB side.
 
What I meant about pinto's and bmw's is software related..we are stuck here in 2.1 land while everyone else is streaming along in...he11...50.2.99 lol (sarcasm)

Ive looked into the whole rooting thing...but honestly I'm just not that savvy enough "phone tech wise" to even think about doing it.
There are so many different acronyms that honestly i'm overwhelmed.

~is there a "dumb'd down version available~
~rooting for dummies~

I do like my phone ALOT

Every single post/ article I have found has taken for granted that the reader allready automaticly knows what everything is..

ROM's? umm I know what RAM is but that is puter based.
JL1-500 lol? doesn't Jaguare have a J series or is that Astin Martin.
Kies? I have no clue what this is...a screen pops up every time I plug the vibrant into the computer but is does nothing when I select it.
Froyo? im pretty sure this is an update (gonna guess 2.2.2??)
Gingerbread? im fairly certain this is the latest and greatest.

I would root in a heartbeat if...

(1) there was S-I-M-P-L-E instructions that are S-T-E-P B-Y S-T-E-P
(2) there was a video on youtube showing those instructions
(3) should things go haywire [see #1 to revert back to normal]

Now I am aware that these instructions exist....but not for us "dummies"
 
Dagan said:
What I meant about pinto's and bmw's is software related..we are stuck here in 2.1 land while everyone else is streaming along in...he11...50.2.99 lol (sarcasm)
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The majority of Android phones are still on 2.1 (Eclair).
Ive looked into the whole rooting thing...but honestly I'm just not that savvy enough "phone tech wise" to even think about doing it.
There are so many different acronyms that honestly i'm overwhelmed.
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Rooting is as simple as downloading an app from the market, installing it, and clicking a button.

~is there a "dumb'd down version available~
~rooting for dummies~
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Yeah, it's called a Razr.

See below responses in bold:
I do like my phone ALOT

Every single post/ article I have found has taken for granted that the reader allready automaticly knows what everything is..

ROM's? umm I know what RAM is but that is puter based. ROM=OS (Operating System)
JL1-500 lol? doesn't Jaguare have a J series or is that Astin Martin. That's the Kernel version...don't worry about it for now.
Kies? I have no clue what this is...a screen pops up every time I plug the vibrant into the computer but is does nothing when I select it. Kies is the European app for updating your Vibrant.
Froyo? im pretty sure this is an update (gonna guess 2.2.2??)
Gingerbread? im fairly certain this is the latest and greatest.
Android names it's versions on deserts. Not sure what A and B were off hand, but there was Cupcake, then Donut, then Eclair (what you're on), then Froyo (frozen yogurt), then Gingerbread, etc. See a pattern? Look at the first letter of each name. FYI, Gingerbread was only just released as source code. I believe only one phone has it officially and maybe a couple tablets.

I would root in a heartbeat if...

(1) there was S-I-M-P-L-E instructions that are S-T-E-P B-Y S-T-E-P
(2) there was a video on youtube showing those instructions
(3) should things go haywire [see #1 to revert back to normal]

I take it you haven't actually researched how to root...

Now I am aware that these instructions exist....but not for us "dummies"

Here, for you "dummies" : Let me google that for you
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I'm going to try to make it a little easier for you to root cause I know sometimes Android can be a little overwhelming to beginners. It scared me the very first time I ever rooted a phone.

First and foremost, make sure you have something called Odin. No its not the Norse god, its a program on your computer to get it back to stock if you brick(render it useless) your phone. I've bricked my phone and its not that big of deal at all as long as you have the proper tools to work with.

Refer to this thread for all the files that you need to have on your comp before you get started:

[ROM] OFFICIAL T-Mo Vibrant JFD ODIN/Nandroid Backup Images 7/29/10 (Tested/Working) - xda-developers

This is video to give you a visual on how to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ

Keep in mind that you don't need odin unless you are flashing a custom rom or flashing it back to stock.


Now to the customizing stuff

This is a video on how you can root your phone the easy way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U508p2jRtlg

This is the site where you get the root zip file from along with detailed written instructions if you want to read it also:

http://theandroidsite.com/2010/07/18/how-to-root-your-samsung-vibrant-or-captivate/


Applying ROM's
Your phone should be rooted by now so watch this video on how to install a ROM on your phone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCDsAHfoVwc

Keep in mind that you don't need OCLF in the first step that he states. I don't even think it has a root option anymore. It doesn't matter cause you rooted your phone already.

If you just visit the rooting section of this forum or go to xda, there is a plethora of roms you can choose from that can either be flashed via ClockworkMod on your phone or flashed through Odin. Its really just a preference.

Thats the best I could do to help you out short of doing it for you myself. If you can't do it now, well then the android platform really isn't for you.

Trust me, I've been rooted and custom rom'd since I've been introduced to android. It really is the best phone OS out there. The Vibrant is a badass phone but I wanted to throw my phone across the room b/c of how shitty Samsung is about broken promises and updates. Tmobile's customer service has gone down hill for reasons I couldn't tell you.

I still stick by word in saying that a person shouldn't have to go through all that to get a $500 phone to work like it should have from the get-go. But rooting and custom ROMs is an option and a really great option.
 
jree said:
I'm going to try to make it a little easier for you to root cause I know sometimes Android can be a little overwhelming to beginners. It scared me the very first time I ever rooted a phone.

First and foremost, make sure you have something called Odin. No its not the Norse god, its a program on your computer to get it back to stock if you brick(render it useless) your phone. I've bricked my phone and its not that big of deal at all as long as you have the proper tools to work with.

Refer to this thread for all the files that you need to have on your comp before you get started:

[ROM] OFFICIAL T-Mo Vibrant JFD ODIN/Nandroid Backup Images 7/29/10 (Tested/Working) - xda-developers

This is video to give you a visual on how to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ

Keep in mind that you don't need odin unless you are flashing a custom rom or flashing it back to stock.


Now to the customizing stuff

This is a video on how you can root your phone the easy way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U508p2jRtlg

This is the site where you get the root zip file from along with detailed written instructions if you want to read it also:

http://theandroidsite.com/2010/07/18/how-to-root-your-samsung-vibrant-or-captivate/


Applying ROM's
Your phone should be rooted by now so watch this video on how to install a ROM on your phone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCDsAHfoVwc

Keep in mind that you don't need OCLF in the first step that he states. I don't even think it has a root option anymore. It doesn't matter cause you rooted your phone already.

If you just visit the rooting section of this forum or go to xda, there is a plethora of roms you can choose from that can either be flashed via ClockworkMod on your phone or flashed through Odin. Its really just a preference.

Thats the best I could do to help you out short of doing it for you myself. If you can't do it now, well then the android platform really isn't for you.

Trust me, I've been rooted and custom rom'd since I've been introduced to android. It really is the best phone OS out there. The Vibrant is a badass phone but I wanted to throw my phone across the room b/c of how shitty Samsung is about broken promises and updates. Tmobile's customer service has gone down hill for reasons I couldn't tell you.

I still stick by word in saying that a person shouldn't have to go through all that to get a $500 phone to work like it should have from the get-go. But rooting and custom ROMs is an option and a really great option.
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you should make a separate topic for this or something
 
Although I appreciate all the help that was offered, I have to express that Rooting my device will not be done unless I give it to someone whe knows what they are doing.

Perhaps I didn't make it quite clear when I said I require a "dummies version"

Although I was able to root...that was about it, ALL and i will repeat ALL videos that I have seen, shoot right past the important details.
I cannot count how many times I heard "I got the link at bla-bla-bla and if you go to my comments section of the video it will be there" guess what ppl...either your link doesnt work, its non existant, and if your lucky enough to find it...there is no instructions on how to get it to your phones.

Dont even get me started about ROM's

"just go over to XDA and its there..umm....yeah there is close to 60k in threads over there, and I'm supposed to know where to go-what i'm looking for-and how to get it on my phone by watching another faulty video...or tutorial that has vital info excluded because the author expects to know how to build a phone from scratch.

I guess rooting and android 2.2 aint for me....i'll just have to wait till I get the over the air update
 
Well, you don't even have to wait for OTA unless you don't have a windows machine. Get Mini Kies and it will update as soon as the OTAs are being released.
 
Dagan said:
After successfully rooting my Vibrant and went here...
How to install Android 2.2 (Froyo) build i9000XXJPH on Samsung Galaxy S [Guide]
to upgrade to 2.2

well it was successfull...however

I cant get a signal...no 3g..nuttn

Has anyone else had this problem or am I just a special kind of ******ed
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You just can't grab any old Galaxy S ROM and flash it. There are many different variations of the phone. You HAVE to flash one that is SPECIFICALLY made for a Vibrant.

And even though you don't want to, you have to go to the XDA forums, and look at the Vibrant specific forum, then Android development section. There are a few stickies at the very top of the page that say every single thing that a noob flasher needs to know. Complete with links and download files. If that's too hard and you can't bother to do the reading required, then you really shouldn't be screwing around with your $500 phone in the first place.
 
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