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USB 2 Ethernet adapter?
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eldelcable
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Ethernet connection is the most efficient Internet connection available nowadays. Guess why there are transoceanic cables for internet connection.
Now, you are telling me that Google cannot design Android to be able to efficiently connect to the Internet out of the box?
I really hope they can they be a bit more competent.
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Now, you are telling me that Google cannot design Android to be able to efficiently connect to the Internet out of the box?
I really hope they can they be a bit more competent.
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Because Google designed Android for phones and tablets. Phones and tablets by their very nature are portable wireless devices, and so wireless is the most efficiently way for them to connect to the internet. Who the hell wants to use a phone with an Ethernet cable?
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Maybe Nokia, Apple, RIM, Lenovo, Huawei, ZTE, Samsung, LG and Sony-Ericsson can be 'a bit more competent' as well?
daveybaby
Android Expert
Wifi connection is too inefficient? Wow, you must have a truly amazing internet connection if 102.11n isnt fast enough to keep up!
In theory there's nothing stopping somebody from writing some software that does exactly what you want. It's probably easier to share a PCs connection via USB than have to deal with lots of different USB-Ethernet hardware, and you'd need some internet sharing software running on the PC side. But it'd almost certainly have to be patched into the android OS at a pretty low level, and thus would probably only be possible as a part of a custom ROM (i.e. not a separate installable app).
So... it's possible, but nobody seems to have bothered, and with very good reason - like i said above, wifi is faster than most people's wired internet connections, so what's the point?
And if youre really scared of getting a brain tumour from a mobile phone, you shouldnt own a phone full stop.
The problem of this statement is that it is misleading. Most people connect "Ethernet" with copper cables (Category 5/5e/6 being the most common today). Which is true, most of it is. But there are fiber optic ethernet options, too. Which are the transoceanic cables are made of. Copper is horrifically inefficient for transoceanic cables, and that's why they replaced the copper transoceanic cables out for fiber optic back in the '80s. Why does this relate? Because I imagine the OP wanted to plug a cat 5 cable into his phone.
But yes, fiber optic is more efficient than wireless. Very true. But no one is going to install fiber optic transceivers into a cell phone. That would be pointless (it is called a 'wireless' device, afterall).
To the OP: It'd probably be a lot less frustration to change your cable-only router to a wireless router. Don't forget to set up wifi security, too!
This is obviously wrong. There are a lot of android devices use ethernet over USB splitters (One example). Maybe that is not out of the box in a native android, but probably it is posible in custom builds.
If the OP had the skills and initiative to accomplish setting up his device to support a USB accessory then he probably wouldn't create a post like this. There's no plug and play solution like the OP is asking for. Through modding and some hacking it's certainly possible. It's not, however, a practical solution for most "average users" out there.
They certainly can. However, this is outside the intended scope of Android. What can be done isn't the only thing to consider. No product has infinite development resources.
I certainly hope you're not suggesting that transoceanic cables are Ethernet runs. Ethernet cables have a recommended maximum length of 100m with a repeater necessary for longer runs. Assuming you could sumberge and power a repeater every 100 meters, you'd need 30,000 of them just to go from Nova Scotia to Western Ireland (original Transatlantic cable).
That's why he asked about ubuntu tried?
Another plug and play solution - tethering (ethernet over usb). Which is included into CyanogenMod for example (which has HTC phones support).
And I don't think rebuild custom kernel is very big deal ( I mean you don't need write your own driver, tune on a suiting option in the config should be enough). At least you can request a feature in some comunity which build firmware you intend to use (as mentioned CyanogenMod).
eldelcable
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Quite disappointed at the fact that some people prefer to discuss unimportant subtleties, rather than accepting the fact that transmitting energy through the path defined by a conductor material is more efficient than transmitting it through the air omnidirectionally.
The trade off between range and speed in wireless connections is more steeped, meaning you need to reduce more speed than wth cable for gaining the equivalent increase in range.
Also, I never stated that transoceanic cables are ethernet ones, I was just mentioning one clear example of the superior efficiency of cable over wireless (even though they obviously tried to use directional antennas as opposed to the omnidirectional ones used in mobile phones, routers and wifi adapters).
To me it is a bit like, "If you can kill that fly with your hand, why should you use dynamite?"
I would like to make a smarter use of wireless technology. Use it only when it is really needed.
Human beings have not been exposed to this kind of radiation during their long evolution process. The effects are still unknown (although there is some evidence on their malignity), so I consider it is wise to make a smart use of it. IMO it should not be the default setting.
All this is just my point of view, however there are many other people wanting this feature, thus there are plenty of other reasons it is desirable to connect the phone via ethernet cable.
I said Google should be more competent, because there are other mobile OS supporting this feature. But maybe the right word is "Responsible".
The logic that mobile phones should not support ethernet connection just because they were thought to be portable, it not anymore strong enough. Right now, my mobile phone is more powerful than my computer (cpu and graphics).
The trade off between range and speed in wireless connections is more steeped, meaning you need to reduce more speed than wth cable for gaining the equivalent increase in range.
Also, I never stated that transoceanic cables are ethernet ones, I was just mentioning one clear example of the superior efficiency of cable over wireless (even though they obviously tried to use directional antennas as opposed to the omnidirectional ones used in mobile phones, routers and wifi adapters).
To me it is a bit like, "If you can kill that fly with your hand, why should you use dynamite?"
I would like to make a smarter use of wireless technology. Use it only when it is really needed.
Human beings have not been exposed to this kind of radiation during their long evolution process. The effects are still unknown (although there is some evidence on their malignity), so I consider it is wise to make a smart use of it. IMO it should not be the default setting.
All this is just my point of view, however there are many other people wanting this feature, thus there are plenty of other reasons it is desirable to connect the phone via ethernet cable.
I said Google should be more competent, because there are other mobile OS supporting this feature. But maybe the right word is "Responsible".
The logic that mobile phones should not support ethernet connection just because they were thought to be portable, it not anymore strong enough. Right now, my mobile phone is more powerful than my computer (cpu and graphics).
daveybaby
Android Expert
Are there? Where are they all then? Seriously, if there was any kind of demand for what youre asking then it would be available - capitalism, for all its faults, tends to be good at that sort of thing. I think this is the main problem you will have getting this - there just isnt the demand for it so google havent bothered expending time and resources putting it in the phone. That's *why* it's not there.
As for complaining about the dangers of wifi on a mobile phone of all things... well that's just ridiculous. Even if there were health risks (nothing's ever been proven) it's kind of like complaining about air pollution while smoking 40 a day.
Are there, where? AFAIK Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, iOS, Symbian, Meego, BlackberryOS and WebOS devices do NOT have ethernet ports.
If you really want ethernet support in Android, there is absolutely nothing to stop you implementing it. Android is open source you know. Because that's the beauty of open source software. If it doesn't do something or lacks a feature you require, you can always add it yourself or find someone to do it for you.
It's probably time you bought a new computer then.
senorpepper
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Wow this thread has really gone off on one.
I would really like a tablet device rather than a phone which I could plug into an ethernet device for different reasons.
I install wireless ptp radio links and it would be really handy to have a tablet type device while I am up a ladder or in a loft where a laptop is not practical.
There is obviously no demand for this but hopefully in the near future there will be a workaround for the decent tablets. There are cheaper tablets that have RJ45 sockets but these have terrible reviews.
I would really like a tablet device rather than a phone which I could plug into an ethernet device for different reasons.
I install wireless ptp radio links and it would be really handy to have a tablet type device while I am up a ladder or in a loft where a laptop is not practical.
There is obviously no demand for this but hopefully in the near future there will be a workaround for the decent tablets. There are cheaper tablets that have RJ45 sockets but these have terrible reviews.
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It apparently can be done Let's talk about Google Android: Step by step to enable LAN access for Motorola XOOM but this post doesn't give me enough to go on.
Yes, it can be done on the xoom because that has usb host support. No phones have this.
Sitlet,
The GalaxyS2 can host USB, also called USB On-the-go OTG. I use this to plug in a card reader to the phone which is mounted as 'usbStorage' in the file structure. Obviously the SGS2 will not host something which draws significant power, but it can host devices off a powered hub. There are youtube videos of 1TB disk drives, USB keyboards being hosted by the SGS2.
I am not saying that USB2Ethernet is supported put of the box, but simply there are phones that will host USB devices now.
The GalaxyS2 can host USB, also called USB On-the-go OTG. I use this to plug in a card reader to the phone which is mounted as 'usbStorage' in the file structure. Obviously the SGS2 will not host something which draws significant power, but it can host devices off a powered hub. There are youtube videos of 1TB disk drives, USB keyboards being hosted by the SGS2.
I am not saying that USB2Ethernet is supported put of the box, but simply there are phones that will host USB devices now.
Dr Goodvibes
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There are Google Android Internet TV boxes that have Ethernet ports.
If you search for the Android Internet TV Flexiview FV-1 box you'll find it has Ethernet. (Don't have enough posts to place a link)
It's not really a mobile device and parallels closely to a TV media client, but does have Ethernet and USB and WiFi and Bluetooth and HDMI and supports a conventional keyboard AND it's Android.
If you search for the Android Internet TV Flexiview FV-1 box you'll find it has Ethernet. (Don't have enough posts to place a link)
It's not really a mobile device and parallels closely to a TV media client, but does have Ethernet and USB and WiFi and Bluetooth and HDMI and supports a conventional keyboard AND it's Android.