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Help Using Android for music in the Car... ?! HELP

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Sorry about the trouble OP, I can't help with that.

But as I've had to clean up the mess in here, and noticed that no one else here is a mod, I can help with this - the next snarky remark telling people what they can or cannot say is going to get the benefit of my complete and undivided attention. :)

Please be polite!

Cheers, thanks. ;)
 
AFZom said:
On a iPhone, my understanding is there is amp signal in the 3.5mm line to boost audio for the headphones. However it works, there is a noticeable hum in the system during "silence", this is eliminated on the iPhone when using the Apple dock-connection. I assume all headphone jacks will be this way. Using the Dock also eliminates audio adjustment from the iPhone.
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Not sure how apple works, as I've never used any products. However iPods/iPhones probably use "line-level" signals thru the "iCable", vs. an amplified signal via its 3.5mm jack.
 
I actually don't mind bluetooth audio connection at all. I just purchased some cheap dongles from ebay (3.5mm>bluetooth) and they work fine and sound fine, especially using with PowerAmp. I'd imagine it would be so much easier if I had a bluetooth integrated head unit. That's the only other way I could see that working the way that you're hoping (where you can control the tracks using the head unit.

I've seen more and more headunits created that have Android integration, but as you mentioned...probably not worth the upgrade.

For me, either going direct 3.5mm or 3.5mm>bluetooth dongle has been perfect, coupled with my dock specifically for the Note 2 that I purchased from ebay. I don't even have a need to charge the phone consistently throughout my drive, due to the great battery life on the phone.

Hope you find a solution that'll work for your needs. Unfortunately, this is something that apple does have a leg up on Google and rightfully so, because the iPhone came about from the iPod.
 
drexappeal said:
. Unfortunately, this is something that apple does have a leg up on Google and rightfully so, because the iPhone came about from the iPod.
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Agreed. ipods flood the market, not many Android based players out there. While I may not have an iphone I may have an ipod which people can dock to their cars head unit and in some cases people just leave the ipod in the car. Ipod by itself has a nice ecosystem which simplies life and is part of its popularity. If Apple had no Ipod things might be different.
 
NeuDroid said:
Try this young lady, someone else posted this in another thread and it may help you.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DMsImNvbS5pZHVubm9sb2wuaGVhZHNldGJsb2NrZXIiXQ
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thank you.... but how do you figure it will solve my problem? i dont use headphones... or does the phone think i am cause im playing music?

bluetooth i was talking about it synced to my car... my phone is also connected to my car via AUX... so when i play music and someone calls and i pick up, music stops... but when i go back to the music player on my phone it doesnt start again even if i press play... i have to turn off my player, turn off bluetooth and load up the player again...

doesnt make sense... since i use bluetooth because i cant drive and talk on the phone, it not legal here... so its like i cant do both without then having to fix this bug/issue/wtf
 
AFZom said:
Defeats the entire purpose of selling my old iPhone and owning a smart phone. The whole point of streaming data is to be able to use it. I could just as easily dump 32 gigs of MP3s onto a $20 USB Memory card and have the same functionality. Functionality Android is clearly lacking.
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Having a Scion xB I understand your frustration, but it's not Android that's lacking it's the cars and head units. They don't make them with MHL or Miracast yet when they pretty easily could, then most any Android device would be able to mirror the display to the car display. I'm eagerly awaiting a product like this.

AFZom said:
On a iPhone, my understanding is there is amp signal in the 3.5mm line to boost audio for the headphones. However it works, there is a noticeable hum in the system during "silence", this is eliminated on the iPhone when using the Apple dock-connection. I assume all headphone jacks will be this way. Using the Dock also eliminates audio adjustment from the iPhone.
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None of my Android devices or iPhone ever had a hum from the headphone jack playing into the aux jack in my various cars.

AFZom said:
This logic baffles me. People don't change cars and stereos as frequently as they do phones. Since the phone is the changeable device, it should be on Android to draw customers by confirming to existing industry standards.
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They aren't industry standards, they're proprietary Apple standards and Apple makes sure that it's not easy for other ecosystems to use them. If anything blame Apple for not using any sort of industry standard, for example micro-usb, MHL nor Miracast.
 
JunBringer said:
None of my Android devices or iPhone ever had a hum from the headphone jack playing into the aux jack in my various cars.



They aren't industry standards, they're proprietary Apple standards and Apple makes sure that it's not easy for other ecosystems to use them. If anything blame Apple for not using any sort of industry standard, for example micro-usb, MHL nor Miracast.
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Maybe because your system was properly grounded? ;)

As far as "apple cables", that's one of the main reasons why I couldn't go with them. There was an issue with Pioneer HU owners where the licensed ipod cable wouldnot function properly, requiring owners to buy the more expensive apple branded cable s for full functionality. (~$75) This complaint from someone who's whole stereo is cabled w/$300 interconnects.

For my phones however, I just went with a slightly heavier guage/insulated 3.5mm cable for the aux in the car, and same brand for 3.5mm-to-RCA for the house (GE from target?). I could get better cables but it would just make the mp3 compression more audible.
 
We have to realize that android only started dominating the mobile OS market only a year ago. Give it time and well see more products coming out designed to cater to the android market. As it continue eating away at Apple's market share, you'll see more and more manufacturers cater to it.

For now I'm contented to connecting my phone to a car dock, then connecting my phone to my car's stereo through Bluetooth. I don't think sound fidelity would degrade through Bluetooth. I believe it would stream it digitally, but I could be wrong. Unlike earphones and headphones which are hardware dependent on the availability of its own power, Car and home stereo systems should sound fine. I'm no audiophile do I really wouldn't know. Though using the BT dongle on my home theater system seems fine to me, it might not be the same for people seeking perfection.

In the end, the market will dictate what manufacturers will support. Now it's still Apple, but I have a feeling in a couple of years, you'll see android take off as far as manufacturer support is concerned. :)

-Sent using the force
 
colnago said:
Maybe because your system was properly grounded? ;)
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I'd love to know how my Marantz is not properly grounded. :rolleyes:

colnago said:
As far as "apple cables", that's one of the main reasons why I couldn't go with them. There was an issue with Pioneer HU owners where the licensed ipod cable wouldnot function properly, requiring owners to buy the more expensive apple branded cable s for full functionality. (~$75) This complaint from someone who's whole stereo is cabled w/$300 interconnects.
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Never had a problem with the $5 "iPod to USB" cable. Just stick in the USB slot on the Pioneeer - synced and away you go. Charges the phone as well.
 
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