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Root Want to Root, But Worried.

This looks like a great spot for my noob question, so here gos. I'm a little freaked out getting ready to root with Z4root one click, but in the guide it says to get a app installer from the market. Is this still necessary? Can I just email the Z4.apk to my phone and download it that way? I just came from a rooted Eris, back when it was a real pain in the ass to do. So not knowing much about the X, is what has worried.

Thanks.
 
BimmerM3 said:
I've decided to install Apex 1.3.1. I have a backup from when i first rooted my phone. I just downloaded ROM manager and about to download titanium backup. I've also downloaded the zip file for apex, but I have no idea where to go from here. I saw an option to flash roms with ROM manager?
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That's one option, the other is to boot into recovery. I've done it both ways.

I believe the instructions now say to clear/format when coming off stock so check the appropriate checkboxes.
 
Both have a lot of themes, but Apex has better battery life and Liberty can change status and battery icons and other stuff from the toolbox.

Apex 1.4 is coming soon, maybe this week, and might have a toolbox. The battery fix for Liberty should be released in the next week or two as well.
 
colchiro said:
Cool, did you make a recovery backup of apex yet?
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I certainly did..and i guess that file will show up if I ever needed to restore from recovery by going through bootstrap?

only question is - shouldnt i rename it - to something like "APEX_1.3.1_DATE"? if so, how would i go about doing that?
 
TheKirch said:
Ich wohne in Amerika :p Just kidding I'm only in German origin
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I'm German/Russian... Germans that moved to Russia due to a potato famine, then to the US.

RWil85 said:
I certainly did..and i guess that file will show up if I ever needed to restore from recovery by going through bootstrap?

only question is - shouldnt i rename it - to something like "APEX_1.3.1_DATE"? if so, how would i go about doing that?
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Install Rom Manager, go to manage and you can rename it there. Just don't use spaces or weird characters.

My backups look like this. I won't bore you with the second screen:

rom_manager_2.jpg


If you want to get fancy, you can start to rename one: Open Rom Manger, choose "manage and restore backups", tap one, choose rename, long-press the name until a menu comes up, choose "copy", then cancel and choose backup current rom and paste the name in, then change the date. :cool:
 
colchiro said:
I'm German/Russian... Germans that moved to Russia due to a potato famine, then to the US.



Install Rom Manager, go to manage and you can rename it there. Just don't use spaces or weird characters.

My backups look like this. I won't bore you with the second screen:

rom_manager_2.jpg


If you want to get fancy, you can start to rename one: Open Rom Manger, choose "manage and restore backups", tap one, choose rename, long-press the name until a menu comes up, choose "copy", then cancel and choose backup current rom and paste the name in, then change the date. :cool:
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Exactly as I thought. Very nice- thanks for the explanation. RomManager seems like a fairly useful tool - going to check it out now.
 
colchiro said:
Here's my recommendations:


  • Get rooted.
  • Install recovery.
  • Install rom manager.
  • Install Titanium Backup, open it and press the menu button, select batch and make a backup of "all apps + all data".
  • Open recovery (DroidX bootstrap), tap the top button, should say you were give supervisor permission, followed by success. Tap the second button to go into recovery. Vol up/down button moves cursor, back button goes to previous screen, camera button does what the cursor is highlighted. Select return and press camera button.
  • Open rom manager and create a backup. Call it stock_02-07-2011 (don't use spaces). Make sure the backup completes. Should take a couple minutes. If it reboots right away, it did not work.

Here's my first root app: Quick Boot (Reboot) - Android Application on the Android market

My take on overclocking/undervolting... it's fun to tweak but can cause some instability until you get it set up. That probably why Steven made his comment. I like QuickClock and Overclock. Both do different things.
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Ok So I decided to root my phone friday. I followed this post here. My question is not about rooting, its about going back to stock. I just want to make sure I have it right before I get to far in either process. First step is to run the rom manager and restore the stock file that was saved. Then run titanium backup to restore the data, then unroot via z4root? Thanks in advance
 
Oni Sixx said:
Ok So I decided to root my phone friday. I followed this post here. My question is not about rooting, its about going back to stock. I just want to make sure I have it right before I get to far in either process. First step is to run the rom manager and restore the stock file that was saved. Then run titanium backup to restore the data, then unroot via z4root? Thanks in advance
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I'm sure one of the more advanced users will confirm/refute this..

I think the process will look something like this..

there is a .zip of the OTA stock 2.2.340 update floating around..you need to dl that to your SD card..i would then say, you should probably do a hard reset and clean your caches, etc. after booting into recovery..then flash that OTA .340 .zip which is called in some spots the maderstcok.zip

you can find wayyyy more detailed instructions here:
maderstcok - OTA 2.3.340 update.zip - Droid Forum - Verizon Droid & the Motorola Droid Forum

hope that helps.

PS. I should've read all the way through your post before I jumped right to explaining - I think you have the flashing stock Rom part correct - but, isn't Ti Backup a Root program? I would think that you would need to have your apps backed up with a non-root program like Astro (once you flash stock - you lose root I'd assume) - and then let Google repopulate your contacts and emails and such..Make sure while youre in stock that you have the checkmarks under Settings>Privacy checked so that your phone will be being backed up regularly.
 
Yes Ti is a root program. My thinking was to revert to the stock rom then load restore the files from ti then unroot. I may have jumped into putting a custom (apex) rom in sooner then I was ready. I am not having issues with anything yet I just want to make sure I understand how to get back to stock incase i need to.

Edit: Guess I should totally read as well lol. I am not sure if loading the stock rom will undo the root either. Hence my quetion :).
 
Oni Sixx said:
Yes Ti is a root program. My thinking was to revert to the stock rom then load restore the files from ti then unroot. I may have jumped into putting a custom (apex) rom in sooner then I was ready. I am not having issues with anything yet I just want to make sure I understand how to get back to stock incase i need to.

Edit: Guess I should totally read as well lol. I am not sure if loading the stock rom will undo the root either. Hence my quetion :).
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seemingly, after reading up a bit, flashing that maderstcok.zip is the only way to return to stock .340 without having to SBF back to pre .340 and then OTA-ing back to it.

that link I posted before seems to have pretty detailed directions on how to go back to stock (Which removes root) - and there are ways to restore without using Ti Restore..I'm trying to learn here too, haha.
 
Mainly for a game I have on my phone. Progress doesn't get saved to a new phone (I know form experience :(). Not sure if that would have any effect on it. Other then that reactivating is a pain for me since the person who's account I am on is in the military :p. Getting his last 4 SS numbers could be fun, but not impossible. There is no other info on it currently that is irreplaceable other then that.
 
Oni Sixx said:
Ok So I decided to root my phone friday. I followed this post here. My question is not about rooting, its about going back to stock. I just want to make sure I have it right before I get to far in either process. First step is to run the rom manager and restore the stock file that was saved. Then run titanium backup to restore the data, then unroot via z4root? Thanks in advance
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Rom manager or recovery bootstrap, depending on how bootable the phone is or which is easier to get at. No reason to unroot ever tho, unless you plan to return the phone. :D

If that rom agrees with you, back it up too. You might find you have a rom you don't like and you can go back to one you like better.

Oni Sixx said:
Arrg I'd rather not have to reactivate the phone :(. I wish i knew that before hand.
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I've never liked that either, but have done it about 20 times now.
 
OK, I have rooted my phone and installed recovery bootstrap.

Now what?

Do I want to do "Bootstrap Recovery" or "Reboot Recovery"?
 
First you hit bootstrap recovery, which bootsrap will then ask for superuser permission and it should say "success". That means it got access, then you click reboot recovery to boot into the recovery menu where you backup/ install roms etc..

Also I should note backups are pretty big, I think like 500mb or something. SO if you realize you need space on your phone it might be smart to put them on your comp and on a flash drive or something safe.
 
I flashed Liberty 1.5 a few days ago and just flashed ApeX to see which one i like better. Its only been about 5 minutes and I already realized how much more i like liberty than apex. I also noticed that when Apex was installed i couldnt simply backup to Liberty. It said MD5 mismatch. So i assume that in order to use a backup you first have to switch to the corresponding ROM? Im in the process of reinstalling Liberty so i guess ill find out.

Edit: Ok nevermind. I reinstalled Liberty and tried to restore from my last backup and it still says MD5 mismatch. Its not that big of a deal but it would be alot easier than restarting all over. But i noticed now on stock liberty that my unlock bar is the same as the one from apex. Is it possible that it left traces of files? The unlock slider looks liek the one from android 2.1.
 
colchiro said:
Rom manager or recovery bootstrap, depending on how bootable the phone is or which is easier to get at. No reason to unroot ever tho, unless you plan to return the phone. :D

If that rom agrees with you, back it up too. You might find you have a rom you don't like and you can go back to one you like better.



I've never liked that either, but have done it about 20 times now.
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I restored my original file i saved with rom manager. It seemed to do what I wanted. I am not having issues with anything I just wanted to make sure I could get back to stock for official updates should I feel the need to. Am I right in assuming that will allow updates from verizon? Restoring my original file I think was the correct approach to that. Sorry just a noob here lol. I am in th process now of going back to apex and updating that to the new one.
 
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