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Help When do you charge your battery?

Thank you....Imeem is running, in my normal 2g, wifi off. Should I hurry it up by turning on 3g, gps and wifi? Does that matter when cycling to help just speed it up?

How quickly you want to drain the battery is up to you, when I first found out about calibrating the battery I just let the battery die of natural causes before charging it.

update: 25% battery remaining, last charge 33 hours ago!
 
I was tempted to go full bore and download emergency light which is screen on full power with no screen timeout...but I just have all the communication protocols turned up and Imeem playing. 51% when I started that, then did a little playing on the device and lost 2% in 4 min. So this should happen fast.
 
I am going to have to get bigger pockets, I just know it.

I already carry a spare battery ... and a battery pack like device that I can recharge the phone battery from without any AC power ... It is itself rechargeable and I can get about two full rechages from it onto the standard battery that came with the phone ...

LOL ... Maybe also need a crank recharger and a Solar recharger ... so when i am lost in the wilderness I still can surf the net ... and keep up-to-date with AF :)
 
You can get watches and torches that convert kinetic energy into usable power, wouldnt it be cool if you could shake your G1 to get an extra bit of juice out of it
 
You can get watches and torches that convert kinetic energy into usable power, wouldnt it be cool if you could shake your G1 to get an extra bit of juice out of it

Oh yeah like the flashlights that you shake and the generator inside recharges the battery ... Great !! Idea !!:cool:

Ohh LOL i just recall you are across the pond and you arent talking about the torch kerosine or oil torches where i can carry fire ON :) but what we yanks call a flash light !! :)

I would have used the torch to boil water and use the steam to drive a turbine generator ...
 
Ohh LOL i just recall you are across the pond and you arent talking about the torch kerosine or oil torches where i can carry fire ON :) but what we yanks call a flash light !! :)

Hey could you do a video shaking one of your torches for me? Just remember to dump it in the bin (garbage) and run like crazy.
 
Back to topic...I just have gotten to step 2. Interesting to note. Power Manager had me at "01" for about 12 mintues. Much longer than expected. Likely meaning it was not extremely accurate.

Then it powered down and I powered it up 3 times, the third time it made it past the Android load screen, the other two did not. No when I hit the power button, the only thing I get is the LED to light red a single time. I think that indicates an empty battery.

Let the charging commence. I am assuming any device can charge the G1, USB or AC. And it can be on during that charge. Right?
 
Let the charging commence. I am assuming any device can charge the G1, USB or AC. And it can be on during that charge. Right?

Yes the G1 can be on during a charge, but from experience AC charge is better than USB. I have always got a better charge from AC. Just remember to keep it on for at least 2 hours after it says it is fully charged
 
Ok will do on the 2 hours. As for USB vs. AC you should get a better charge! USB is much weaker and will take longer. But I am near my PC right now so that will have to do for this experiment. Maybe it will give us another datapoint.
 
Ok I am into cycle 1. Using the device after the first full charge+2.

Cool thing, after 2 hours - yes, 2 hours of the phone being on but not doing anything, except deleting email and txt - power manager still says 100. Never seen that before.

You certainly have a good trick going! Applause!:):):):):):):):):):):):)
 
I plan on keeping a Battery Log here :

I hope that this conditioning method will show that by consistenly using the same apps.. MaxPwr, Apps in background for GPS "GPS Staus", Browser , with Bluethooth, Wifi, Cell Location on and 3G on , ..... that the Battery duration will show improvement.

I am using the 1200 mAh battery that came with the phone ... I started with a full discharge of the battery ... and then did a full recharge plus and overnight left on charger ...

1/30/09 0600 -- removed from AC charger and used PowerMngr to turn everything on and the display was on continuously
1/30/09 0920 -- Battery discharges and phone powers off -- 3 hrs 20 mins duration
1/30/09 0920 -- AC Charging with minimal use and display off ... after 1 hr PwrMngr shows 56% so a bit less than 1%/min..
........................After 2 hrs battery is at 90% or .75%/min
1/30/09 1130 -- 100% charge at .77%/min now will give 2 hours additional undisturbed charge ...
1/30/09 1330 -- Starting another Full discharge at Max rate ...
1/30/09 1340 -- 10 min for it to drop to 99%
1/30/09 1400 -- 30 min now at 90%
1/30/09 1430 -- 1 hr now at 68% ...
1/30/09 1500 -- 1-1/2 hrs at 46%
1/30/09 1530 -- 2 hrs at 23%
1/30/09 1600 -- 2-1/2 hrs at 17%
1/30/09 1620 -- 170 min at 0 %


future Edit Updates to come ...
 
I am on my second full recharge....after flycast came out, I thought that would help me reduce it back to 0% the fastest. It did.

Charging via USB while not using the device, you get about 1% a minute (using the single menu key press to check occasionally). Which means 220 minutes to fully re-charge+2 hours.
 
Some Article Highlights -- From The Battery University ---

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible. Instead, charge the battery more often or use a larger battery. There is no concern of memory when applying unscheduled charges.

Longevity of high-power lithium-ion
Generally speaking, batteries live longer if treated in a gentle manner. High charge voltages, excessive charge rate and extreme load conditions will have a negative effect and shorten the battery life. This also applies to high current rate lithium-ion batteries.

Not only is it better to charge lithium-ion battery at a slower charge rate, high discharge rates also contribute the extra wear and tear. Figure 3 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the good laboratory performance if the battery is charged and discharged at 1C. (A 0.5C charge and discharge would further improve this rating.)

Battery experts agree that the life of lithium-ion depends on other factors than charge and discharge rates. Even though incremental improvements can be achieved with careful use of the battery, our environment and the services required are not always conducive to achieve optimal battery life. The longevity of a battery is often a direct result of the environmental stresses applied.

Simple Guidelines

Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery. Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory. (In this respect, lithium-ion differs from nickel-based batteries.)

Short battery life in a laptop is mainly cause by heat rather than charge / discharge patterns.

Batteries with fuel gauge (laptops) should be calibrated by applying a deliberate full discharge once every 30 charges. Running the pack down in the equipment does this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate and in some cases cut off the device prematurely.

Keep the lithium-ion battery cool. Avoid a hot car. For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 40% charge level.

Consider removing the battery from a laptop when running on fixed power. (Some laptop manufacturers are concerned about dust and moisture accumulating inside the battery casing.)

Avoid purchasing spare lithium-ion batteries for later use. Observe manufacturing dates. Do not buy old stock, even if sold at clearance prices.

If you have a spare lithium-ion battery, use one to the fullest and keep the other cool by placing it in the refrigerator. Do not freeze the battery. For best results, store the battery at 40% state-of-charge.

FROM wiki : Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to empty (0%).

FULL ARTICLE at: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
 
Hey, thanks for that.

I will not fully discharge as often now it's calibrated (once every 30 charges according to that).

Top find :)

I also found that :
Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to empty (0%).

So maybe the lowest point might be the 15% level ... I use an App called "Watts" and it or phone gives a recharge message at this point ... so probably a good point to use ..
 
Thanks :)

I have updated the first post to reflect the latest findings, but initially the phone does need to know where the empty mark is, otherwise it can not calibrate efficiently. I have put the low mark as 5%
 
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