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Why all the hate?

shalemail

shalemail

Android Expert
So I am kind of surprised by all the sentiments here. I am obviously a Motorola fan so take this mini rant however you like.

Everything I have read across all the streams is that the Moto X update may be the best phone of the year. Yet everything I see here is complaints about battery size, storage options, the screen is too small (or too big), no wireless charging, blah blah blah.

Look the original X was no show stopper if you rate it solely on it's components. This phone has been and I am hoping forever will be about the user experience. How it delivers the information, how it works with you and for you. When I use my wife's HTC One I am lost without my touchless controls, the ability to unlock the phone with out touching it, and always without the "on" button. I love love love the ability to make and take texts and calls while driving, SAFELY.

I expected to see people excited about the launch, and excited about the final product, it's all the things I love about the Moto X family with more horsepower under the hood. What's not to love?

Personally, I will be picking one up, unless the Nexus X offers everything this phone does plus something this phone does not that makes it more attractive. It shouldn't be a long wait for the release of some iron clad specs and pictures and features on that phone, and I can wait, cause I love my dumpy, old, slow, no storage, original Moto X.
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/RANT
 
There's nothing wrong with being excited and disappointed at the same time... it's a great phone, but with more memory (or an SD slot ) it could have been so much more.
 
The three things they could have added is the SD card and then the one thing that the Nexus is rumored to have the 805 chip.Then there is the battery size. So far it seems it is close to a day but not as good as it could be. It's not that the 801 is a bad chip it's just that the 805 is current and it is near EOL as far as a flagship device goes.
 
I agree with the OP. I unfortunatly broke my orginal and had to get a HTC One as a replacement. I have hated this thing since day one. I am spoiled to all the great things the X can do. The original was a great phone and this years model seems to have expanded on that a great deal. I dont think this phone was intended to be some great work horse for all the videos and what not that people think they need all this storage for and battery lilfe. My battery on the orginal was better than any battery in any other phone. I never had to plug it in and i have to plug in this One all the freaking time. I am by no means a power user, so that means the One battery is worse than the orginal X. The new X is going to be a great phone once I get it. I love everything about it and that is mostly the motorola apps that are on it. I think more companies should use them.
 
I love the original Moto X. I hate that they went to 5.2 inches though. And if you're gonna go that big, make the batter bigger. You're telling me that they made the phone a half inch bigger, and can only increase the battery 100 mAh? That's BS. The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact is the slimmer than the Z1 Compact (1 millimeter), yet has a 300 mAh bigger battery, and 0.3 inch bigger screen.

That and the 'dimple' on the back is hideous.
 
tsanuri said:
The three things they could have added is the SD card and then the one thing that the Nexus is rumored to have the 805 chip.Then there is the battery size. So far it seems it is close to a day but not as good as it could be. It's not that the 801 is a bad chip it's just that the 805 is current and it is near EOL as far as a flagship device goes.
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SD card slot (bigger phone)
battery (bigger phone)
Chip .... The original X had an antique compared to the other phones out yet ran (for the most part) as well or better than everything it was being compared to. I for one am looking forward to this much horsepower with the way Moto maximizes it's power.

Every reviewer has been very pleased with this phone. I'm looking forward to it.
 
Crewville96 said:
I love the original Moto X. I hate that they went to 5.2 inches though. And if you're gonna go that big, make the batter bigger. You're telling me that they made the phone a half inch bigger, and can only increase the battery 100 mAh? That's BS. The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact is the slimmer than the Z1 Compact (1 millimeter), yet has a 300 mAh bigger battery, and 0.3 inch bigger screen.

That and the 'dimple' on the back is hideous.
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I prefer the original X's size too. I don't like big phones, that said, from what I have heard and seen the "in the hand feel" is negligibly different than the original.

And I love the dimple. :o
 
I definitely plan on getting the phone as soon as Verizon lets me, but it's hard not to be a little irked by the lack of storage options. I'm fine with no micro SD, internal storage will be much faster anyways, but I and many others would have happily paid the hugely inflated cost they would have charged for a 64gb (or larger :) option. And considering these are being assembled after we place an order through moto maker anyways, the lack of an option is even harder to wrap my head around.

I'm sure the 64gb option didn't sell great on the original, but it wasn't available until so much later in its life, how could it? People that buy a phone that late in a cycle aren't power users, and those are the ones who will want more space.

It might only affect a sub-group of the market, but it still directly affects the user experience. A lot of us can't rely on always having a wi-fi connection available, and would like to have a decent portion of media synced. But with the nature of flash memory, the more free space on your drive the smoother your whole system will run.
 
Can't agree more with apjans... the 64g option would have made the phone a no brainer... even if the batt was a tad undersized.
 
I'm genuinely curious, because I may be missing out on something. My X is 16gb, with 7gb free. What do people fill their phones with that 32gb is a deal breaker?

Again, genuine question. I feel like I'm not using my phone as much as I could be. :D

Justin
 
Not sure how long you've had your phone but you will find that as you start to use up more memory, you will slowly see the performance drop. Also depending on the apps you use.

Some custom applications ( esp database types ) need a lot of memory and with kitkat, applications can't be run from the SD ( of course with no SD... moot point <g> ).

If you just use your phone as a phone.... of course you won't need much memory...but then again you could have just kept your razr.

Most of the time, the people who need a lot of memory are those that travel outside cell and wifi coverage... I guess a good example are hikers that like to use their GPS with topo maps that reside on the phone and not "on line".
 
wa4hnd said:
as you start to use up more memory, you will slowly see the performance drop. Also depending on the apps you use.
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Are you sure of that?

The big performance impact seems to be from a fragmented Data Cache Partition where temporary data is stored. This can be alleviated greatly by a periodic Wipe Cache Partition (I do it once a week). This affects no data you have stored or customization you have made.

One of the quietly included improvement in 4.4.4 on the Droid Maxx is that a Factory data Reset now also includes a Wipe Cache Partition. Under 4.4 it did not so all those times people did a Factory Data Reset to improve performance it didn't Wipe Cache Partition and seemed to not help.

You can invoke the Wipe Cache Partition without doing a Factory Data Reset.

... Thom
 
My wife has 32g and hers is full of pictures. She has very few apps and does not even have music. She is a picture taker big time. I guess it is all in how you want to use your phone. I have a 32g phone and I only use about 9g of it. Mostly cause I hate my phone but once I get another x I am sure I will fill it up again.
 
Yes, I'm sure of that... as you start to fill up, fragmentation becomes more of a problem... and even if you wipe it, the "holes" are still there. Hope that makes sense.

If you want proof, do some read/write performance testing on a clean machine, ( one with <50% used ) then one with 80 percent used... then do a wipe and do it again. You won't match the clean machine performance.
 
32gb is more than ample for my use. I have about 1200 songs and a few pictures. If it's a pic I want to really keep I back it up somewhere.

I love this phone and won't be getting a new one. I don't need a new one and can't justify just getting one. If I did need one I'd be all over it in a second. Moto has done something special with the X and it just rocks, shortcomings and all.

I maintain my next phone will be project Ara &#128522;
 
>> I maintain my next phone will be project Ara &#55357;&#56842;

That is a cool project, but you may be waiting a bit <g>. We'll see if the momentum stays high but even at that you maybe talking 3 to 5 years out.
 
I think it looks like an excellent device and almost already bought one but they didnt have the combo I wanted on MotoMaker. So for now I am waiting a bit -- possibly will compare it to the Nexus X. Still, I really like what Moto has done by pushing voice activations and active notifications forward.

The original Moto X was just an incredibly USEFUL device. I'm a bit concerned about the size and I dont like the style as much but a lot of phones grow on me over time, so I'm trying to weigh style and size as less important for now.
 
I hear you.... the perfect device for me would be a Gen2 with the new guts... with 64g internal but with the same size screen as the Gen1.

Or for that matter, a 64g Gen1 ( I'd live with the screen and camera ) with the gen2's processing power.
 
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