Will Verizon ever have "simply everything" type plans?

[IOWA]

LOL. I gotta give credit where its due. Iowa I think you are the most logical sprint fanboy I've seen on a forum for the record I'm on VZW but have no loyalty. If they make me give up my Alltel plan ill deal with sprints crappy build out around here. Can you still put phones on force roam?

Nope. People were abusing it to get out of contract ETF free. And I'm not really a fanboy of anything. I have loyalty to no product. If a carrier came out that provided better/same service, at a better price, and had comparable devices, I wouldn't hesitate to jump ship. But right now, for me, Sprint is the best option.

 

[QrafTee]

Nope. People were abusing it to get out of contract ETF free. And I'm not really a fanboy of anything. I have loyalty to no product. If a carrier came out that provided better/same service, at a better price, and had comparable devices, I wouldn't hesitate to jump ship. But right now, for me, Sprint is the best option.

However, you preach about Sprint as if it's the second coming of Jesus and you've made your presence very known to being a pro-Sprint advocate by posting in the Verizon and Verizon-related forums against the carrier. I haven't been to the Sprint forum, so maybe it's a common practice among you and 3devious to go back and forth.

If not a fanboy, I'd qualify you as a borderline troll based solely on your posts--that I've read. Although you still base a lot of your arguments on facts with some degree of bias (but that's an opinion, isn't it).

 

[IOWA]

However, you preach about Sprint as if it's the second coming of Jesus and you've made your presence very known to being a pro-Sprint advocate by posting in the Verizon and Verizon-related forums against the carrier. I haven't been to the Sprint forum, so maybe it's a common practice among you and 3devious to go back and forth.

If not a fanboy, I'd qualify you as a borderline troll based solely on your posts--that I've read. Although you still base a lot of your arguments on facts with some degree of bias (but that's an opinion, isn't it).

Cold hard fact is bias?

I visit all the carrier forums.. And it's not like I started a thread saying blah blah blah sprint is better, I went into an existing thread(s) to correct misinformation.

 

[gruss]

Sprint is a hell of a deal. Problem is usually the sprint folk blindly say coverage is equal. True if there is no sprint coverage but in an area like mine where you keep bouncing back and forth its a pita! PLus does sprint still not allow mobile to mobile when roaming? Some folks rely on that and when its gone can lead to Verizon like bills. As long as the Sprint folk can admit coverage can be spotty with them I'm ok with it. I hate sprint cs and had horrible experiences with them but I would still say see if it works. If I ever moved back to NW Indiana I'd switch, because they were rock solid there and probably the best call quality I've ever had. Here quality sucks so ill take good everywhere I go over sometimes excellent sometimes crap. Same with data, let's stream some music on my way to Detroit from my house and see who buffers more. Might be faster downtown but mine is DO the whole way.

 

[IOWA]

Sprint is a hell of a deal. Problem is usually the sprint folk blindly say coverage is equal. True if there is no sprint coverage but in an area like mine where you keep bouncing back and forth its a pita! PLus does sprint still not allow mobile to mobile when roaming? Some folks rely on that and when its gone can lead to Verizon like bills. As long as the Sprint folk can admit coverage can be spotty with them I'm ok with it. I hate sprint cs and had horrible experiences with them but I would still say see if it works. If I ever moved back to NW Indiana I'd switch, because they were rock solid there and probably the best call quality I've ever had. Here quality sucks so ill take good everywhere I go over sometimes excellent sometimes crap. Same with data, let's stream some music on my way to Detroit from my house and see who buffers more. Might be faster downtown but mine is DO the whole way.

Sprint CS has gotten MASSIVELY better. Sprint CS was terrible around the merge. I completely agree.

And about the "verizon like bills" We still get more minutes than Verizon, with or without mobile2mobile. And I've been to the contiguous 48, and really havent had any problems. In a given month, Between BOTH of my lines, which mine I use for business, we go through a whopping 150-200min per month. So 1300 landline/roaming minutes seems perfectly fine to me.

 

[gruss]

Finally got on here on the pc, see your from Chicago and I have no doubt Sprint works awesome for you. Have family there and in NW Indiana and couldnt believe how well sprint worked (carried an old PRL in alltel phone so I could go back to vzw at the expense of evdo if I had too, around there Sprint was great though). Like I said credit where its due, we had Sprint for a company account which I got the "pleasure" to manage...nightmare with the m2m thing as the phones slipped in and out of roaming all the time so folks think "hey its free" and it wasnt!
If I were to switch my family and personal line to them I would have to multiply my "anytime" minutes by quite a few to make up for that, Sprint would basically be a wash for me, with worse coverage, I'm on a "legacy" alltel plan...Can't say it enough though try everyone out and use what works!!

 

[IOWA]

Finally got on here on the pc, see your from Chicago and I have no doubt Sprint works awesome for you. Have family there and in NW Indiana and couldnt believe how well sprint worked (carried an old PRL in alltel phone so I could go back to vzw at the expense of evdo if I had too, around there Sprint was great though). Like I said credit where its due, we had Sprint for a company account which I got the "pleasure" to manage...nightmare with the m2m thing as the phones slipped in and out of roaming all the time so folks think "hey its free" and it wasnt!
If I were to switch my family and personal line to them I would have to multiply my "anytime" minutes by quite a few to make up for that, Sprint would basically be a wash for me, with worse coverage, I'm on a "legacy" alltel plan...Can't say it enough though try everyone out and use what works!!

Alltel was another carrier I liked. If i was out in the rural areas, I would have had alltel, and in turn, VZW. VZW's coverage wouldnt be much of anything without alltel. Alltel had the most impressive network buildout, I just wonder why they sold?

 

[Frisco]

Alltel was another carrier I liked. If i was out in the rural areas, I would have had alltel, and in turn, VZW. VZW's coverage wouldnt be much of anything without alltel. Alltel had the most impressive network buildout, I just wonder why they sold?

I never saw anything on why they wanted to sell most of their territory and equipment, other than lots and lots of ready cash; that can be quite an incentive for all of those in the money stream.

Alltel was actively soliciting large carriers to purchase them. It went on for months before Verizon agreed to acquire them. AT&T turned them down flat early on.

I think Verizon is happy with the deal.

 

[gruss]

A lot of us wondered why. Great company to deal with and the folks I know tbat worked for them loved their jobs. At one point there was a rumor they would buy Sprint! Then all of a sudden sold to the big red monster. I think they wanted out before the 4g stuff started rolling. Alltel didn't even have native evdo here in Toledo area we piggy backed on sprint until the buyout. My guess would be upgrading that area would not be cheap. Alltel did build out their territory well sprint should pick up some of their layed off engineers

 

[Frisco]

Sometimes a deal like that will crop up in big business when the selling entity's financial gurus see a hostile takeover down the road.

Feh..

 

[gruss]

Yeah I think it was get out while price was high. Seemed weird that Scott Ford would do it since he appeared to be hands on but everyone has their price I guess.

 

[QrafTee]

Cold hard fact is bias?

I visit all the carrier forums.. And it's not like I started a thread saying blah blah blah sprint is better, I went into an existing thread(s) to correct misinformation.

You don't need to be starting threads about that--that's something different, flamebait. However, from what I've seen you have been appearing almost everywhere where Verizon or one of their phones are involved and happening to mention Sprint and its line-up as the second coming of Jesus as if you were some sort of missionary--they "correct" people too. I don't know if it's intentional, but it's blatantly obvious at this point.

And yes you are bias, but you do some up with some facts to back your arguments.

And I'm not sure why you keep saying, "Well Verizon only has this because of Alltel" or "Well Verizon's coverage is only doing this because of Alltel." It was an acquisition, that's the point.

 

[gruss]

My guess is as hard as it a to believe there are places where VZW coverage was abyssmal. Western Michigan is one place I know well. VZW was a joke and Alltel was rock solid. VZW woud still be in the pcs band there without Alltel so coverage no better than Sprint, both of whom relied heavily on Alltel for roaming. I'm sure there are many more similar areas.

 

[Frisco]

My guess is as hard as it a to believe there are places where VZW coverage was abyssmal. Western Michigan is one place I know well. VZW was a joke and Alltel was rock solid. VZW woud still be in the pcs band there without Alltel so coverage no better than Sprint, both of whom relied heavily on Alltel for roaming. I'm sure there are many more similar areas.

Well, the Verizon coverage map looks quite extensive, but there are blank areas:

People with a device in those white areas are going to say, "Verizon sucks," etc.

 

[IOWA]

You don't need to be starting threads about that--that's something different, flamebait. However, from what I've seen you have been appearing almost everywhere where Verizon or one of their phones are involved and happening to mention Sprint and its line-up as the second coming of Jesus as if you were some sort of missionary--they "correct" people too. I don't know if it's intentional, but it's blatantly obvious at this point.

And yes you are bias, but you do some up with some facts to back your arguments.

And I'm not sure why you keep saying, "Well Verizon only has this because of Alltel" or "Well Verizon's coverage is only doing this because of Alltel." It was an acquisition, that's the point.

But sprint still uses all their towers, and vzw can't cut them off even if they wanted to.

 

[gruss]

Well, the Verizon coverage map looks quite extensive, but there are blank areas:

People with a device in those white areas are going to say, "Verizon sucks," etc.

I don't trust a map unless I've been there and used my phone. All carriers lie, according to sprints map coverage at my house should be excellent, I beg to differ. Imo VZW does have the best coverage, at least where I go, that's all that matters to me.

 

[jreed2560]

the maps don't take into account the lay of the land. Trees, hills, buildings, etc. can all affect signal negatively.

 

[Frisco]

the maps don't take into account the lay of the land. Trees, hills, buildings, etc. can all affect signal negatively.

I try to stay out of trees when using my phone.

Buildings, ok. The occasional hill. But no trees.


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[jreed2560]

you make me giggle Frisco

 

[QrafTee]

the maps don't take into account the lay of the land. Trees, hills, buildings, etc. can all affect signal negatively.

But if you take that into account, carriers who have less coverage than Verizon will really take issues with hills, buildings, foliage, and the like.

 

[hlaalu]

i work for cricket wireless, the best plan is unlimited talk/text/pretty much everything for $60, the most basic is $30 for unlimited talk/text voice mail and other features. It's all monthly pre-pay so it's impossible to get hidden fees and charges. They also have a deal with verizon so chances are where there is verizon coverage, there is cricket coverage. Only problem is most of the phones suck right now, although a droid and blackberry are coming this summer.

 

[IOWA]

i work for cricket wireless, the best plan is unlimited talk/text/pretty much everything for $60, the most basic is $30 for unlimited talk/text voice mail and other features. It's all monthly pre-pay so it's impossible to get hidden fees and charges. They also have a deal with verizon so chances are where there is verizon coverage, there is cricket coverage. Only problem is most of the phones suck right now, although a droid and blackberry are coming this summer.

Not to mention being dead last on tower priority. Nothing like getting kicked off the tower wwhen a post paid subscriber comes on =D

 

[gruss]

For serious? Cricket can roam pc VZW now? I mean I knew it was technically possible but missed the roaming agreement part. How long until cricket kicks you off for 100% roaming? I might have to turn on an old phone to test.

 

[vzwuser76]

Sorry this is a little late but just finally got to reading this forum tonight. I was little shocked by some of things Iowa had to say. First about how VZW wouldn't have near the coverage without Alltel, that must be somewhere other than my state. They had almost as many towers as VZW, but only about 60% of the coverage. I think I stated something similar the last time I posted. A friend of mine who is a semi-freelance engineer in SW Minnesota had horrible trouble with their service. He's probably on of the smartest guys I know. He does IT, designs video to cat5 baluns, etc. I remember him telling me that one month he had around 1200 minutes just talking with 611 trying to resolve the issue. His phone was a company one and they would not let him use his personal one for some reason. So unless they were better in other areas I'm not quite sure about that. The other is the whole fanboy/trolling argument you had with QrafTee. You may not be a fanboy or carrier loyal, but (and this might be my biggest pet peave) what you do is trolling. I have also never gone onto another carrier's forum and tried to convince them what they are doing is wrong or how great I think my service is. You say if it works for the other person then you are okay with that. Thanks, I'm glad you're okay with it 'cause if not I wouldn't know what to do with myself! Look at it this way, how would you feel about Jehovas Witnesses coming into your house unannounced & uninvited telling you what you need to do to be saved. Notice a similarity here. If someone who does not currently have service with Sprint wants to know about them, they should go to the Sprint forum and read and learn and make a decision. And it's not like you only show up here intermittently, it seems like you're on around half of the threads. Is there nothing going on in the Sprint forum? I don't go on there like you do on here because I think it's extremely rude, but that seems to be the culture the internet has given us. They can go anywhere they want to and nobody can stop them and screw 'em if they don't like it. Of course, maybe it's a compliment. If we had nothing to lose they wouldn't bother coming on here, but since VZW has the largest number of customers, they have the most to lose. And I also wouldn't classify myself as a fanboy, when I think VZW is in the wrong I'll tell them so, either on forums, through CSRs, or in the local stores. But 95% of any problems that I've had with them are with issues other than cell service, because that's the one thing I've never had a problem with them on. I use what works, period. If it doesn't work it's useless. As far as second tier cell companies (Cricket, Tracfone, Boost, Straight Talk, etc.) getting booted off when one of us postpaid subscribers come on, tough! We're the ones who paid for the network, I would think we'd have priority over someone who's paying less to use the same network I'm on. That's why it's cheaper!

 

[IOWA]

Sorry this is a little late but just finally got to reading this forum tonight. I was little shocked by a couple of things Iowa had to say. First about how VZW wouldn't have near the coverage without Alltel, that must be somewhere other than my state. They had almost as many towers as VZW, but only about 60% of the coverage. I think I stated something similar the last time I posted. A friend of mine who is a semi-freelance engineer in SW Minnesota had horrible trouble with their service. He's probably on of the smartest guys I know. He does IT, designs video to cat5 baluns, etc. I remember him telling me that one month he had around 1200 minutes just talking with 611 trying to resolve the issue. His phone was a company one and they would not let him use his personal one for some reason. So unless they were better in other areas I'm not quite sure about that. The other is the whole fanboy/trolling argument you had with QrafTee. You may not be a fanboy or carrier loyal, but (and this might be my biggest pet peave) what you do is trolling. I have also never gone onto another carrier's forum and tried to convince them what they are doing is wrong or how great I think my service is. You say if it works for the other person then you are okay with that. Thanks, I'm glad you're okay with it 'cause if not I wouldn't know what to do with myself! Look at it this way, how would you feel about Jehovas Witnesses coming into your house unannounced & uninvited telling you what you need to do to be saved. Notice a similarity here. If someone who does not currently have service with Sprint wants to know about them, they should go to the Sprint forum and read and learn and make a decision. And it's not like you only show up here intermittently, it seems like you're on around half of the threads. Is there nothing going on in the Sprint forum? I don't go on there like you do on here because I think it's extremely rude, but that seems to be the culture the internet has given us. They can go anywhere they want to and nobody can stop them and screw 'em if they don't like it. Of course, maybe it's a compliment. If we had nothing to lose they wouldn't bother coming on here, but since VZW has the largest number of customers, they have the most to lose. And I also wouldn't classify myself as a fanboy, when I think VZW is in the wrong I'll tell them so, either on forums, through CSRs, or in the local stores. But 95% of any problems that I've had with them are with issues other than cell service, because that's the one thing I've never had a problem with them on.

Lol rant much?

1.) I visit to see what other carriers are offering. Nothing wrong with being an informed consumer.

2.) I correct misconceptions, and spread information. Nothing wrong with that either.

3.) What I'm doing, which is spreading truthful information and debunking misinformation, is not classified as trolling.

Sorry my posts bother you so much.