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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

AZgl1500 said:
Somehow, that just does not break my heart...

Linux will never take over either though, it is just too hard to add on a new app or feature for those who don't give a damn about what is under the GUI.
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But that's not the reason why Linux will never become the dominant O/S is it? After all, however hard Windows tries to be user friendly, you can only dumb down tech stuff so much. When things start going bad in Windows, often your average user can't sort it out, that's why they turn to a friend in the know, or pop down to PCWorld and pay for their experts to have a look.

And I don't think that installing new 'apps' on a Linux system is that hard is it? Most distros have some kind of software centre, in which the user can search categories, see what's available etc. All this without even having to know about apt-get.

No, the reason why MS will continue to dominate the desktop market is corporate inertia. The cost to companies of moving to something else makes it unlikely they will change.
 
I think a Linux OS has taken over for many consumers and domestic users, Android. :thumbsupdroid: The many times I read, especially on AF, and see as well, we don't have a PC.
 
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bcrichster said:
That's true.. Someone tried to hack my Facebook With Windows from China the other day. Well they actually DID hack it, just used the wrong OS to do so and the fact it was suddenly on the other side of the world it triggered a lockdown of my account. For all of MS's Win10 push, there's still a LOT of ppl still running earlier Widows OS's. Especially in China, apparently.
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Windows XP of course, still the most used OS in the PRC.

BTW how did you know it was in China that hacked your FB. Because usually can't access FB from a Chinese IP address, and if using a VPN, that won't appear as China.
 
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mikedt said:
Windows XP of course, still the most used OS in the PRC.

BTW how did you know it was in China that hacked your FB. Because usually can't access FB from a Chinese IP address, and if using a VPN, that won't appear as China.
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Facebook had me go thru a verification process that showed where the location of access occurred + which browser & OS running it, asking whether or not it was still me to unlock my account. Umm.. Huong Juong (or very similar.. Should've taken a screenie), China. Made me reset my password & everything, aggravating.
 
mikedt said:
I think a Linux OS has taken over for many consumers and domestic users, Android. :thumbsupdroid: The many times I read, especially on AF, and see as well, we don't have a PC.
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Replying to my own post:

We've actually had students and their parents howling that they can't use the software that comes with some of their textbooks. From the read-me.txt of Nat Geo, TimeZones, bought last month. English SuperMinds was the same as well, from Cambridge University Press.

Instructions to run a CD in Microsoft Windows
1. Insert the CD into the CD-ROM drive
2. If the CD interface does not auto launch then follow the instructions below.

Alternative way to open a CD in Windows.
1. Double Click on My Computer (Windows Explorer for users of Vista or later).
2. Double Click on the CD Icon.
3. Double Click on the TimeZonesCD.exe.

Instructions to run the CD in Apple Mac
1. Insert the CD into the CD-ROM drive
2. Click on Finder
3. Click on the CD Icon to Browse the Content.
4. Click on the TimeZonesCD file to run the CD.

And it does come on a CD-ROM in the back of the book.

And NOPE!...you can't run it on your iPad Pro either.
 
Rather than quote, I'll just say this: IMHO, fully 75% of people that I know who have a computer use it for Internet access alone. Nothing productive, just to get "online." Why on earth people PAY for this when Linux is safer and FREE, is beyond my comprehension.

That said, Windows a very user friendly "service," and no longer an OS. Use it as you must, but in the words of Elmer Fudd be vewy vewy cawful. Lol...
 
Linux may be safer and free, but it is not for the casual consumer to use.

It takes a lot of study just to figure out how to go find a new app that you want to install, and maybe it will be in the library of known Linux apps.

while it may not be the safest, being able to click on a .exe file and sit back while winders installs it, is something that nearly all of our current generation of folks have grown up with.

My linux laptop will not talk properly to my WiFi adapter, which is a Win8.1 device....
no one in the Linux world has written a proper driver for it.

but today, thanks to the help here, I now have a new TP-Link to try out and see how it goes.
will be nice if that puppy automatically logs into the WiFi services for me and the Linux laptop can use the LAN connection instead.

right now, I am wondering how to handle the hotels who require a password with the TP-Link?
 
AZgl1500 said:
Linux may be safer and free, but it is not for the casual consumer to use.

It takes a lot of study just to figure out how to go find a new app that you want to install, and maybe it will be in the library of known Linux apps.

while it may not be the safest, being able to click on a .exe file and sit back while winders installs it, is something that nearly all of our current generation of folks have grown up with.
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Recent versions of Winders, you don't even have to click on whatever downloaded .exe any more. Microsoft saw the problem with it.....
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All vetted, curated and deemed safe to install and use by Microsoft. :thumbsupdroid: Just like Google Play, Amazon Appstore, iTunes Store, etc.

I've got a Win 10 tablet, and frankly most things on it, I've installed from the Windows Store, which I've set to United Kingdom.
 
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Well the Achilles heel for Linux systems is device drivers, especially for plugin hardware. Take for example the "Ant+" receiver for my Garmin GPS watch. Does it work on my Ubuntu system? No. Fortunately it works just fine in a Windows 7 VM, so problem solved for me. But would your average user be inclined to install Virtualbox, plus the 'Guest additions' package?
 
LV426 said:
Well the Achilles heel for Linux systems is device drivers, especially for plugin hardware. Take for example the "Ant+" receiver for my Garmin GPS watch. Does it work on my Ubuntu system? No. Fortunately it works just fine in a Windows 7 VM, so problem solved for me. But would your average user be inclined to install Virtualbox, plus the 'Guest additions' package?
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which has been my whole point from day 1 about Linux. It just is NOT user friendly.

this laptop (Linux) I am using right now, is working perfect, as I am now back home and it is locked into my AT&T WiFi router, which is only 15 feet away from me.... it is strong enough that it over powers the receiver on the WiFi adapter card, and it is "a known signal" so it chooses it first every time the laptop is powered up.

Not so with crappy POS WiFi routers that you find in the hotels where the owners refuse to spend the bux to acquire quality hardware. And, they refuse to provide enough signal strength to cover the whole campus... if someone gets up and moves around in the hotel room, this laptop drops the connection, as the signal is too weak for the WiFi receiver to keep it locked on.

I am going to give the TP-Link a test to see if it can keep the connection up and going. If it can't, then this laptop is going to be sold, and I will buy a Dell that I can depend on. This ASUS is a piece of junk.
 
Another thing about campus WiFi....
the ijits that install it don't realize that you need to put the damn repeaters on different channels so that in the weaker areas, you don't get bit loss from two repeaters trying to send the same exact info from two places at once, on the same channel.

that is just so stupid...
Each repeater should be on a separate channel, that would maximize the coverage without having signal loss.
 
OK, campus WiFi, yeh, you can blame Linux and howl all you like. But as a teacher, i.e. faculty staff, I usually just plug the provided Ethernet cable in. And don't even bother trying to connect to the school, college or university campus WiFi.
 
Ok, my turn. I live in an older apartment building. Rent is affordable (read between the lines). The building has obviously been retrofitted for cable, probably by the lowest bidder. Next, add Time Warner into that mix. I could stop there but won't. At times my wifi download speed falls as low as 250kbs. I also am paying for the highest speed available so I decided to make a call to India. I was a little irate and Lakshmi (Ann) was very terse. She ordered me to plug into the Eternal (which I had before with some marked improvement). The next order was to report to speedtest.net. Suddenly, somewhat magically I was getting 50-65Mbs download speed. Exactly what I was paying for. Case closed. At least for TWC. How was this magic performed? Can I duplicate it on my own?
 
That 'eternal' connection will get you every time. ;)


Seriously, you probably have an older router whose throughput is limited and/or you have a good deal of rf interference or signal overlap from your neighbors that give you a dodgy signal. Most likely it is a combination of all three. By taking WiFi out of the equation and connecting right to their equipment you've discovered that the problem is in your network, not theirs.
 
Forgot to mention. She did reset the router prior to me testing. I have seen low Speed while connected to Ether as well. I changed channels on the router, not a lot of free space, though. Resetting does seem to help. I just want to know if paying $20 more a month for High speed is even worth It? Or if I need to invest in better equipment.
 
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