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Within becomes Epic Touch 4G

I understand the wait is long, but nothing truely innovative will come until this time next year. It'll be well worth it. Samsung is honestly (to me) the only manufacture that makes awesome and true quality for android. Be a little better if it was pure but the new touchwiz isn't bad. Very useful features. No other manufacture has set a bar. Just slight changes to call their own. I respect other handset makers but compares to all around performance and power with looks, Sammy does that. I like how they do yearly and true innovative successors. Not so many varients in between and useless ones and really its a refresh.
 
BenChase7 said:
"Epic Touch" sounds kinda dirty...
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Lol. I didn't think the name was dirty until now.
But the name sounds pretty cool.
But like said above, just release the damn phone already. lol

EDIT: Question: If the Within was already approved by the FCC, doesn't that mean that the name has to be the Within?
(I'm not good with all this kind of stuff. :p)
 
To be honest, I was pretty excited for this phone, but now it's like "just another phone". This release won't even be in the same ballpark as the EVO last summer. That's my prediction. It's not new anymore, for crying out loud. 30-days later it will be replaced, unlike the EVO which in reality had a one-year run (until the 3D, and now the moto). :confused:
 
gsxr150 said:
To be honest, I was pretty excited for this phone, but now it's like "just another phone". This release won't even be in the same ballpark as the EVO last summer. That's my prediction. It's not new anymore, for crying out loud. 30-days later it will be replaced, unlike the EVO which in reality had a one-year run (until the 3D, and now the moto). :confused:
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Well its going to be tough to match the impact the EVO made last year. It was a game changer. But in my opinion the GS2 is the phone of the year so far. If I wanted to upgrade, this would be the phone I choose. But I'm sticking to my EVO. I want to wait to see what the Nexus Prime brings or just wait for next year. EVO 2012 and GS3 will be on the horizon.
 
CrazyTechnoBoy said:
Lol. I didn't think the name was dirty until now.
But the name sounds pretty cool.
But like said above, just release the damn phone already. lol

EDIT: Question: If the Within was already approved by the FCC, doesn't that mean that the name has to be the Within?
(I'm not good with all this kind of stuff. :p)
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The name does sounds good... and, yes, Release It!

Not sure about the name and FCC, but usually when I see something go through the FCC it is listed by model number (i.e. SMH-i967), so I think that's what the FCC goes by.
 
Orion said:
Well its going to be tough to match the impact the EVO made last year. It was a game changer. But in my opinion the GS2 is the phone of the year so far. If I wanted to upgrade, this would be the phone I choose. But I'm sticking to my EVO. I want to wait to see what the Nexus Prime brings or just wait for next year. EVO 2012 and GS3 will be on the horizon.
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You all are not suffering like some of us. You are moving from an evo to a gs ii... try an lg en v touch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


the audio skips around, no real mobile, no real apps, no tethering ability like a normal smartphone. hideous screen, slow as molasses, I am SUFFERING (1st world suffering = spoiled brats) and I need relief NOW !!!!!!!!!

for me the impact of the gs ii is like owning an ancient ford pinto and graduating to an audi or something, that shoots lasers, and flies.
 
This is getting old already. Speculation is already annoying, even more annoying when the phone is out already and taking forever anyways. I'm starting to lose interest.
 
For all the people wanting the SGS2 released as soon as possible, you have to realize that the Samsung Conquer is scheduled to be released end of August on Sprint. Along with the Motorola Photon that just got released, it would be too many high end smartphones being released at the same time. There is normally at least a 1 month gap between big releases in order to maximize sales. The alternative would be no big announcements after the SGS2 for months, and that would let competing carriers easily take the limelight.
 
Why would Samsung release a lesser phone first to steal sales and time away from it's flagship phone? What kind of sense does that make?
 
Remember how when the first version of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 came out - it was FAT in width (model was 10.1V):

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...and THEN the iPad 2 was released in all its super-thin glory. So Samsung back-tracked and discontinued the 10.1V for the much thinner/lighter 10.1 to compete with the iPad2.

I have a feeling this is a cat/mouse game where in the midst of all this litigation and patent crap, Samsung is waiting for iPhone 5 to be announced first with out back-tracking a released SGS2 and redesigning it to compete with iPhone 5. If it releases AFTER iPhone 5 there is less chance Samsung can be accused of "copying" simply because Apple released theirs first and Samsung didn't release an "inferior" version of the SGS2 prior to the iPhone 5 release.
 
cary328is said:
... Samsung is waiting for iPhone 5 to be announced first with out back-tracking a released SGS2 and redesigning it to compete with iPhone 5.
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It takes about two years for a cell phone to be designed and manufactured and delivered at retail. A manufacturer can't just redesign and retail a phone in a few months, let alone weeks.
 
unplugged1 said:
It takes about two years for a cell phone to be designed and manufactured and delivered at retail. A manufacturer can't just redesign and retail a phone in a few months, let alone weeks.
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But didn't samsung do that with the Galaxy tab 10.1?
 
RX-78-2 said:
But didn't samsung do that with the Galaxy tab 10.1?
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All I have read is that the Galaxy 10.1 replaced the v after a short while. I haven't seen anything to suggest that Samsung was magically capable of manufacturing a replacement immediately upon seeing an iPad 2. Perhaps a manufacturer could move faster on a replacement already slated in development, but it strains imagination to think they could design and manufacture a tablet in a few months.

It just seems to defy common sense to think that a manufacturer can turnaround an electronic device in a matter of months. It probably takes the FCC a minimum of a few months to certify a cell phone. I don't manufacture cell phones, but I recall HTC stating they were working with Sprint for a year on the features of the Evo 4G.

You guys do understand that the Samsung "Galaxy class" phone has already passed through the FCC certification process? The features and dimensions have already been cast in concrete.
 
unplugged1 said:
It takes about two years for a cell phone to be designed and manufactured and delivered at retail. A manufacturer can't just redesign and retail a phone in a few months, let alone weeks.
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Actually I'm a video hardware engineer. When we brainstorm, we push several prototypes to manufacturing partners and the external casing is pretty simple to change within a few weeks given the right engineers - Samsung is HUGE and I'm sure they have the resources to do this (we also had close partners at FCC certifying facilities all over San Jose :) . If a design was approved, it really takes a few weeks to prototype (rapid even), bring to a materials machining place to mass produce, etc. I bet the internals of the 10.1V and 10.1 are almost exactly alike - it seriously doesn't take that long to make a change that Samsung did from 10.1V to 10.1
 
unplugged1 said:
All I have read is that the Galaxy 10.1 replaced the v after a short while. I haven't seen anything to suggest that Samsung was magically capable of manufacturing a replacement immediately upon seeing an iPad 2. Perhaps a manufacturer could move faster on a replacement already slated in development, but it strains imagination to think they could design and manufacture a tablet in a few months.

It just seems to defy common sense to think that a manufacturer can turnaround an electronic device in a matter of months. It probably takes the FCC a minimum of a few months to certify a cell phone. I don't manufacture cell phones, but I recall HTC stating they were working with Sprint for a year on the features of the Evo 4G.

You guys do understand that the Samsung "Galaxy class" phone has already passed through the FCC certification process? The features and dimensions have already been cast in concrete.
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Oh, forgot that.
 
unplugged1 said:
You guys do understand that the Samsung "Galaxy class" phone has already passed through the FCC certification process? The features and dimensions have already been cast in concrete.
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Again..."cast in concrete"? I've been through the FCC certification process many times. Nothing is ever "cast in concrete." You can re-certify your product if you tell the labs that you made design changes to the case. In fact, your case specifications don't even have to be exact (FCC is NOT your manufacturing partner that needs exact dimensions) - as long as the general locations of the components that generate noise/signals are in the locations specified in your diagrams you provided you are ok

for reference: http://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet65/oet65c.pdf

See pages 13,14,30,32
 
Babbit said:
For all the people wanting the SGS2 released as soon as possible, you have to realize that the Samsung Conquer is scheduled to be released end of August on Sprint. Along with the Motorola Photon that just got released, it would be too many high end smartphones being released at the same time. There is normally at least a 1 month gap between big releases in order to maximize sales. The alternative would be no big announcements after the SGS2 for months, and that would let competing carriers easily take the limelight.
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The problem is that if the rumors are true of an earlier gs 2 release on verizon, that will pull sales away from sprint. If they need to bump those other lesser devices to a later date instead, so be it, they are less important. the gs 2 is the best thing coming to their lineup in the past year and will remain so until holidays. We have born witness to a march of insects in terms of phones. I cannot understand the argument that says that if the gs ii is released earlier, sales will be lower. They may be lower for the inferior devices, but so what, they are still sales as far as the carrier is concerned, why does it matter what model the phone is?

All they are doing is delaying people like me, currently using a dumbphone on verizon from switching to sprint right this minute, they don't want me to start giving them my money NOW, they prefer to make me wait longer, that's 100 dollars less revenue, x how many people?

So what if there were no big announcements for months from sprint? What if there was nothing new until november? what are the rest going to release? the bionic? How many SCORES of phones were released and announced AFTER the gs2 that I looked at and rejected out of hand for being inferior devices? No one who knows better would be swayed in the negative by an earlier release of the gs ii. So the argument must imagine that there are millions of people so mentally feckless that the fact of when a phone was announced makes a big difference.. I don't know if that is true, but if it is, I don't care. The phone is going to have a 5 month delay by september, five-months.

That is too long, 2 months would have been too long, I don't want these other phones, I am not paying them ANY money until the s2 is released, get it straight people. Why is this so difficult for them to comprehend?
 
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