WWDC12....take notes Android/Google

[trophynuts]

This thread is not for debate on apple features vs. google/android features. This is for one thing only......


Please please pleeeeeeeeez Android/Google start giving firm release dates when you announce something. A lot of the products Apple announced on Monday ...started shipping on Monday. The ones that didn't, they gave a firm release time. This is nothing new, Apple has always done this. Yet Android/Google never gives a firm date on anything. Lets hope this year at Google I/O they change this. If the rumors are true and the Nexus tablet is ready and that's what they give out then that will be a step in the right direction ....


end rant.

 

[AntimonyER]

Problems here is Google does not directly manufacture anything. So there is an added degree of difficulty there. Also, Apple tests their stuff to death, and as a result brings out highly matured products, whose readiness is rarely in doubt, but is usually at least three months, and sometimes 6+ months behind android as a result. I know it's frustrating, but I will take a product that has been delayed three times but still out three months sooner. JMHO.

 

[trophynuts]

Apple does not directly manufacture 100%. They get parts from Samsung, Toshiba, Nvidia Intel among many others. The issue i have is while i kept watching the keynote everything about the new MBP's the guy finished with "it ships today" ....Apple does this every year. IMO I think Google should be able to do the same. When JellyBean is released. I promise you that Google is already building and possibly testing internal Alpha candidates for the next OS. Now i know Google can't control other manufacturers like HTC and Samsung..but take the Nexus line for instance. They should be able to announce firm dates. Before you say anything about the carriers interfering ......that doesn't stop Apple with the Iphone. However i realize Apple's pockets are deeper.

 

[A.Nonymous]

This has long been one of my biggest gripes with Android products.

An Apple release goes like this.
1. Announce product with release date
2. Let the fervor build
3. Release preview/review models to the bloggers/shills that you know will give you a positive review no matter what
4. As fervor reaches a fever pitch, release the product.

An Android release goes like this.
1. Announce product and say that it is "coming soon"
2. Let fervor build
3. Let fervor die down
4. Six months later release the product once no one really cares about it any more.

 

[Mostly Harmless]

This has long been one of my biggest gripes with Android products.

An Apple release goes like this.
1. Announce product with release date
2. Let the fervor build
3. Release preview/review models to the bloggers/shills that you know will give you a positive review no matter what
4. As fervor reaches a fever pitch, release the product.

An Android release goes like this.
1. Announce product and say that it is "coming soon"
2. Let fervor build
3. Let fervor die down
4. Six months later release the product once no one really cares about it any more.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[mplevy]

Apple does not directly manufacture 100%. They get parts from Samsung, Toshiba, Nvidia Intel among many others. The issue i have is while i kept watching the keynote everything about the new MBP's the guy finished with "it ships today" ....Apple does this every year.

Correct, Apple doesn't make most of the components that go into the products but all the final products are Apple-branded with an Apple-controlled supply chain and sold in Apple stores.

IMO I think Google should be able to do the same. When JellyBean is released. I promise you that Google is already building and possibly testing internal Alpha candidates for the next OS. Now i know Google can't control other manufacturers like HTC and Samsung..but take the Nexus line for instance. They should be able to announce firm dates. Before you say anything about the carriers interfering ......that doesn't stop Apple with the Iphone. However i realize Apple's pockets are deeper.

The last 1/2 of this is what the other poster was talking about. GOOGLE isn't building the devices that the OS is going onto, they rely on other manufacturers such as HTC, Motorola, Samsung to build the devices and then that manufacturer has to ensure there's an OS build that is stable for their device. You think HTC, Motorola and Samsung build ALL the components that go into their phones? Heck, half the components in the phones are probably identical.

The Nexus phones get the new OS almost instantly when Google releases it, they are a "Google Experience Device", it's as pure as Android will get on a device. Apple releases iOS updates without carrier delay because they dictated to the carriers that the carrier would have zero influence on the OS with none of the crapware that Android devices are getting forced on them, and if the carrier didn't agree they didn't get the iPhone (why do you think Verizon didn't get it the first couple years, they wanted more control than Apple would give them).

The difference between Android and iOS is that Android is open source. Once Google releases the final code for Android, then it falls on the developers for the handset manufacturers to customize it, but they can't do that until the final code is released. Regarding the wait for the updates, the handset makers have to make sure the new version will work on their devices so THEY then need to test builds once they have them ready for testing. The development cycle for Android is lengthened because it has to pass 2 QC departments, plus having to pass muster with the carriers (did the handset maker include all the bloatware we wanted?). Apple is testing the code on the very devices it will be deployed to and doesn't have to pass the carrier's testing, allowing the update to be available to all supported devices immediately.