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skinien said:
I've been on this forum for several months now and find myself agreeing with everything you say. So I don't have to post anymore, can you just add "skinien agrees" to your signature? :p
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LOL...I was thinking something similar:D

Well written, sremick. Nice WIP ROM table as well.

I'll be looking at Moto & HTC for my next phone, in that order.
 
skinien said:
I've been on this forum for several months now and find myself agreeing with everything you say. So I don't have to post anymore, can you just add "skinien agrees" to your signature? :p
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I agree well said man !!!

although I am running a custom rom I agree


When I left the iphone one of my biggest gripes was the fact that I had to jailbreak the device to get it to function the way it was supposed to imo.

well i went to android and the captivate and although i am really happy with the phone it seems to have alot of issues fortunately I have none of them. I read the forums here and hear nothing but bitchin constantly. I was scared at first to flash but i did it and am pretty happy with my phone. But I agree I shouldn't have to do that to get the full experience from the device I pay so much money for. Not to mention there are those out there that will never even attempt to flash their phone and really shouldn't have too>>>
 
What exactly is the "full experience" I'm missing? As is my phone does everything I need and a whole lot more I haven't figured out I'm betting.
 
Gamble1177 said:
What exactly is the "full experience" I'm missing? As is my phone does everything I need and a whole lot more I haven't figured out I'm betting.
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As has been stated multiple times already:


  • Root is required to perform things like backups, ad-blocking, firewall, etc.
  • A custom ROM is required to fix the use of the RFS filesystem, which horribly cripples the performance potential of the device unnecessarily.
  • A custom ROM is currently required to get Android 2.2, which is required by a growing number of applications, including all the utilities that allow you to track data usage per-app, as well as basic things like a particular new high-quality calendar app.
 
sremick said:
As has been stated multiple times already:


  • Root is required to perform things like backups, ad-blocking, firewall, etc.
  • A custom ROM is required to fix the use of the RFS filesystem, which horribly cripples the performance potential of the device unnecessarily.
  • A custom ROM is currently required to get Android 2.2, which is required by a growing number of applications, including all the utilities that allow you to track data usage per-app, as well as basic things like a particular new high-quality calendar app.
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Exactly !!

Thank you very much!!!
 
Meh, who leaves the stock OS on a high end phone anyways?

I had a custom ROM on my phone within a few days of owning the phone. :rolleyes:

GPS is perfect with Serendipity 1.7 btw.
 
Autolysis said:
Meh, who leaves the stock OS on a high end phone anyways?
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People who want the things to work that don't in the hacked ROMs.

The hacked ROMs are not issue-free. It's a compromise... mostly because they were designed for different hardware. Not everyone is ok with the trade-off.

Example: The Captivate has a high-quality voice processing chip dubbed the "Audience" chip which is not present in any other Galaxy S phone. None of the modern custom ROMs support this chip... leaving all the voice processing to the modem instead. So by using a custom ROM you sacrifice this "high-end" feature of this "high-end" phone, and by playing the lotto with all these mismatched modem files you gamble voice quality, reception, GPS, and battery life. Just follow the support thread for any of the ROMs and see how many conflicting reports you get about results with this or that modem file. Even connexion2005 (the guy doing all these quality review videos for the Captivate) commented on the sound quality issues in Perception, so I'm not making this stuff up.

What has to happen for a custom ROM that fully-supports the Captivate is for Samsung to not only release Android 2.2 final for it, but also the source code. Even when 2.2 comes out, the source code might not be readily available. There's only so much the ROM devs can do with binary bits when they need to make modifications... otherwise it's randomly gluing pieces of one ROM together with pieces from other ROMs to see what works, what doesn't, and what issues you can live with.
 
Autolysis said:
Meh, who leaves the stock OS on a high end phone anyways?

I had a custom ROM on my phone within a few days of owning the phone. :rolleyes:

GPS is perfect with Serendipity 1.7 btw.
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Aside from GPS how about those other issues from the Serendipity rom, or any custom Android rom going for you? I notice the updates are constant addressing one issue or another. I too used to blast custom roms on my WinMo phones right away but that had more to do with the bloat that just killed the phone and the fact that most custom WinMo roms were less problematic that Android roms. No offense to the chefs but these Android roms seem buggy for the most part. When I updated my WinMo phones it was to include more features or softare updates not to constantly fix problems related to the custom roms.

A bloated stock Captivate is still much better than a bloated WinMo rom so maybe that is why I haven't taken the plunge yet. Also, I am still not convinced a custom Captivate will do much more for me though. The open issues lists are just not worth the hassle. Maybe when I upgrade I will start tinkering around with the Cappy but right now I like all features working as designed. GPS aside of course. But personally I think Samsung's GPS issues are hardware related so no custom rom will fix that. You are witnessing the placebo affect, I am afraid.
 
I've been thinking about thay atrix ever since it first showed up at ces, I've been continually thinking I needed a larger screen for watching videos and things like that but if I could just have any extra screen I could carry around with me to watch some of these movies that I've got on my phone then I wouldn't need a 4.5in screen, and a keyboard to type out the longer emails without having to buy a laptop that I don't really NEED or even want, also to have an hdmi out is nice. If it has a decent amoled screen then there's nothing samsung can do to hold me back!
 
I share the animosity toward samsung expressed by the majority of you. I also will not be buying any kind of samsung product now. They have definitely proven that they do not care about there customers, only our money. What they fail to understand is that these two things can compliment each other. I'm actually so tired of the whole thing that I come here less. I'm awaiting ginger bread to be ported...I'll have my phone for another year probably!
 
rubiconjp said:
Absolutely agreed with you that HSPA+ is NOT 4G. However very recently, the ITU decided to relax their 4G standard, thus allowing these carriers with HSPA+ and first gen LTE and WiMax to call their networks as 4G. So now everybody can claim to have 4G. Haha, marketing pressure from these carriers caused the ITU to buckle shamelessly...

shameless ITU
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Nope. From what I can gather only 100 mb/s was considered "real" 4G by ITU. We would have been waiting years for that.

The fact is no matter what they did, carriers and people would have been calling the new data systems 4G anyway, because they are, so ITU just changed or else became irrelevant.

When you are seeing ten fold increases in speed over the previous gen or more, I think it's very fair to call that a new generation.

ITU was unnecessarily strict, and changed to reflect reality.
 
LMaxwell said:
The Atrix looks nice. Of course by the time I'm due for an upgrade, Android won't be using sweets for names and Super AMOLED won't be so super anymore.

Curse you Samsuck!
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I dont get this, from what I understand AT&T "only" charges you $200 for an early upgrade penalty (plus the normal 200). So, 399 total.

Then, unless I'm misunderstanding, you can sell your old phone on Ebay, I'm sure a Cappy will fetch at least $200 if not closer to 300 there.

So bottom line you'd only be out 100-200 to upgrade (same price as a normal upgrade), possibly less depending on what your captivate goes on ebay.

Heck my brother has often paid the full price for phone hardware (he doesnt like contracts) so $600 per phone. Compared to that 1-200 is nothing.
 
shark974 said:
I dont get this, from what I understand AT&T "only" charges you $200 for an early upgrade penalty (plus the normal 200). So, 399 total.

Then, unless I'm misunderstanding, you can sell your old phone on Ebay, I'm sure a Cappy will fetch at least $200 if not closer to 300 there.

So bottom line you'd only be out 100-200 to upgrade (same price as a normal upgrade), possibly less depending on what your captivate goes on ebay.

Heck my brother has often paid the full price for phone hardware (he doesnt like contracts) so $600 per phone. Compared to that 1-200 is nothing.
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Some people have more important things to spend their money on than the latest and greatest phone. Sorry, but mortgage, gas, electric and heating oil are a little higher on my list of priorities than a cell phone. It's 22
 
I told my friend last night I might get a new phone soon. He asked why because I just flashed a custom rom. I told him I rather have a phone do what its supposed to stock and not hacked.
 
shark974 said:
I dont get this, from what I understand AT&T "only" charges you $200 for an early upgrade penalty (plus the normal 200). So, 399 total.

Then, unless I'm misunderstanding, you can sell your old phone on Ebay, I'm sure a Cappy will fetch at least $200 if not closer to 300 there.

So bottom line you'd only be out 100-200 to upgrade (same price as a normal upgrade), possibly less depending on what your captivate goes on ebay.
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That's what I've got in mind. I'm almost definitely moving on from this Captivate, and I'm pretty sure I'm done with Samsung for now. My Samsung monitor just crapped out on me too, so I've got a bad taste for the brand right now (though this new Viewsonic VG24 series replacement is +nice+ :D).

I am totally digging on the Atrix right now (and for all the brands I've owned, Motorola has been one of the better ones).
 
mi04se1 said:
I told my friend last night I might get a new phone soon. He asked why because I just flashed a custom rom. I told him I rather have a phone do what its supposed to stock and not hacked.
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I'd rather wait than to trade my phone in for a few additional options. I like what I have, but I'm more patient than the majority of members in here.

The biggest gripe is GPS. I'm seriously wondering how many people really have to use their GPS daily though.

If I'm going to whine, I'll whine about something I can do something about, or that even matters.
 
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