Iphone 4 vs HTC Incredible

[k.electron]

the AMOLED screen does colors much better than the iphone 4. sunlight viewing is a while different thing, but the higher pixels on the iphone dont translate to better screen. AMOLEDS are the future once they sort out the backlighting.

 

[ryanx27]

mrspeedmaster's pics are accurate IMO. My wife bought the iPhone 4 and has had it since Wednesday. I own an Incredible. I think the colors are better on my Incredible -- they "pop" more and are more pleasing to my eyes -- but the images on the iPhone 4 are ABSOLUTELY sharper. The simple fact is that the iPhone 4 has many more pixels per square inch than the Inc. I can tell a difference from about 2 feet away. Does it make me jealous? Only slightly. Do I want an iPhone now? No. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[Bearly]

Come on folks. I have an incredible and i love it, BUT I was asked by a friend to set up some things on his brand new iphone 4. I can say with all honesty that if you think the dinc comes close to the iphone screen then you better call the eye dr first thing tomorrow morning. I was totally impressed with all of the hardware aspects of the phone. Software still has a long way to go in my opinion. I would trade my dinc in a second for the iphone 4 hardware. I just could not deal with the ios4. Android os is far superior. Im certainly not a fanboy,but I will admit when something is better than what i have. Just my opinion.

My sentiments as well.

Do I love my Incredible? Hell yes. I love my phone. I love that the Droid X multi-touch keyboard was made almost immediately available for DI users. You can't do something like that with iPhone.

Android is on MANY devices, meaning many manufacturers are competing. Competition AMONG them is good for Android; what competition is there among multiple iOS device manufacturers to bring about awesome apps for iOS?

I played with the iPhone 4 today. Whoever said the "sharp edges" make the iPhone 4 uncomfortable on long calls must be drunk: unless you have a death grip on the phone, there is no way the edges are "sharp."

I played with the camera, made a call, played with iMovie, the screen...everything is super polished from an industrial design and UX standpoint (duh, Apple).

The iPhone 4 really feels amazing. The density of the device makes it feel like a heavy mechanical watch.

The screen is FAR brighter than the DI's, and I have a very vibrant screen on my Incredible. I put them side by side and it's no comparison at max brightness set on both. None.

The screen's surface is actually very slick, much slicker than the DI's. The resolution is amazing but only appreciable when you're reading text; I didn't think it was amazing when just looking at the home screen.

The camera is awesome, very fast and the video is super smooth. The quality of the front video cam and the REFRESH RATE were gorgeous.

The phone is super responsive. I just wish I could have first hand experience with the battery life.

I'm not a fan of Apple's business practices, AT&T, or the closed nature of the iPhone.

If the iPhone came out for Verizon, I'd consider it, but not necessarily jump for it. Wasn't the 3GS eventually rooted and Android ported to it? If they one day did that to the iPhone 4, and all the iPhone 4's major features worked with Android....I'd have a seizure.

The build quality? No comparison: the iPhone is way ahead of the Incredible. My battery cover creaks, the screen isn't super responsive, the power button is mushy with the extended battery cover, just not super high end but definitely good enough to not detract from my enjoyment.

And, at this point, I just prefer how Android handles things. I feel like to accomplish X I can often do it in multiple ways, so that my preference for workflow can be accommodated, whereas the iPhone requires a set sequence for most actions, if that makes any sense.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

The phone is super responsive. I just wish I could have first hand experience with the battery life.

Here is my experience with battery life:

Iphone 4: Thursday morning full charge at 7AM.
Friday night 7pm, still have 1/4 bar left. Played music for a good 4 hours.
This is after synching apps, testing out the phone, synched 9GB of music, 2GB of photos, 3GB of videos. Took 30 photos, 15 minutes of video. A good two days of use. And this is after getting the phone so I had to test it out to the max.

My Incredible. Friday morning full charged at 6AM. Battery dead at 11AM. Recharged and back again by noon. By 7pm 1/4 battery. I couldn't do a battery photo comparison because after 20 photos on the INC, the battery was completely exhausted. My normal use is 20 minutes web surfing n 3G, continual email checking and facebook.

I synch and get about 120 mails in the morning; continually. I only have bluetooth on and I only get 4 hours on the DINC. The iPhone with the same mail settings downloading the same mail- with GPS, WIFI, bluetooth on, the battery still runs. No need to run any task killer or disable widgets.

I will go back to VZW and demand another battery replacement or by a 1700mAH battery.

 

[ckochinsky125]

well now they will have to make all new accessories for the iphone since they changed the design of it. Hopefully accessory companies start investing a little more in android devices since they are growing so much.

 

[Dex]

In all honesty, the removable sdcard is not a big deal if you can't really use it. I have 16gb microsdhc on mine and I can't fill it up w/ the content I want. I wrestled with the music player since launch day. I can't play any of my existing movies without re-conversion. So far in 2 months, I've only filled it up w/ 2GB. This is mostly low-res picts, PDFs, and a some music. If there was something better than double twist that allows me to manage my 300GB music collection, then yes, I would use multiple sd cards. But, in the current state, it is a hassle to manage that large amount of music on Android period. This forum is rife with people having issues managing their music.

On the iPhone 4, I can record 5 hours of 720 p HD video. I have about 20 gigs of movies and music copied over on the iPhone 4. In ten minutes, I was able to copy over 30 different playlists with zero hassle. I can play any H.264 720p vids from my Canon camera. No conversions. No handbrake,etc.. The same movies I play in my PMP, WDTV, HTPC plays with no problems.

As for the INC, if I had 32GB of excel and word documents, then yes,I can see the advantage to the removable storage. Then again, word/excel/pdf docs are so small, they can put them in a cloud storage like drop-box.

I don't use iTunes, it's bloatware and crap. I keep my music so neatly organized that it'd make an OCD person explode in happiness. I was able to easily tag and convert music. I've got about 40,000 MP3s and just under 3,500 songs on my Incredible. I didn't have any trouble, I went through the same process as I did for my old Zen Stone that I used to use at the gym and work (There was no way I was taking my Zen Vision:M to work or to the gym). I'm not sure how the music files work on the iPhone, but I am going to assume that it doesn't support WMA, at all.

As far as movies are concerned, I haven't found anything to resize my movies that I like. When I say movies, I'm talking about DivX, mostly. Outside of HD type movies or shows things work very well and play in what is a free player. Though the extra flash support easily makes the Incredible a more viable option for watching video across all fronts.

I get it, the iPhone is cool and totally friendly and you can load all of your stuff up. That's great. I, however, had no problem loading up my Incredible. I didn't have to install Quicktime's abortion to get it to work, either. *shrug*

 

[Dex]

YouTube - iPhone 4 Vs. Droid Incredible

Wow. The loading speeds over wifi were pretty nice. I found it odd that he was so impressed that the Incredible loaded fast with 2 bars. Haven't we been talking about how the bars are of little consequence for a couple months now?

The iPhone 4 seems like a decent phone. I like the new processor that they used in it, it's pretty solid. By the time they upgrade the technology it will be painfully outdated, though. I don't see what all the fuss is about with their new display technology. Nice resolution, but not really earthshattering. I can't wait to see the new series of Droid phones square off against the iPhone 4. Better yet, I'd like to see a Nexus One with FroYo take on the iPhone 4 right now.

I like the iPhone 4 will still be a great phone and a great seller. I just hope the Apple learns something from the innovation that is going on all around. They'd hate to repeat history. Remember learning how to use those old Apple IIe computers? The market shifted and was taken over by PCs. They are dangerously close to letting this slip away as well.

 

[nickreich]

This must have been filmed in some dark corner of hell. Has to be. Only place I can think of where ATT has a stronger signal than Verizon, and I have done some serious miles across this country.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

I keep my music so neatly organized that it'd make an OCD person explode in happiness. I was able to easily tag and convert music. I've got about 40,000 MP3s and just under 3,500 songs on my Incredible.

You sound like a reasonable person. Sounds like you have a your setup well organized. Now, imagine the same level of "OCD" organization for photos, e-books, and movies as well. 3000 photos and 60 Albums. It will take a lot of OCD effort to organize those too. I was doing the same thing as you with a Chinese Rockhip PMP player and I made that effort because it has HD output and can play any and every file format (FLV/Divx/WMV/720p H.264) under the sun. But like most people, I don't like carrying around too many devices (I carry 3 phones already). iTunes, not perfect, works for most people. For music, I don't need to convert. I don't play wmv or even AAC and try to stick to just mp3s.

I'm giving up on the idea of using the Incredible as a media-playback device.
When I got my Incredible, I was a bit disappointed because it has the hardware (1ghz snapdragon) but can't play the hi-resolution files (flvs/wmvs/h.264/mkv) my $60 Chinese PMP does. The iPhone 4, like the Incredible, is not perfect either but it does play 90% of my files - H.264 720p. MP4 is the general direction of the future so I'm not too concern about the inability to play DIVX- I still have my Chinese PMP that plays everything I considered to legacy/out-dated. In fact, I 'll upgrade that chinese PMP because they even now play 1080p WMV files. If the Incredible was 1/2 as good as any of the Chinese based rockchip PMPs, then yes, I will make the effort like you. It is still possible because Android is an open platform and anything is possible. 2 months of hassle sync, converting files to play on the INC was resolved with a 10 minute sync of the new iPhone. When I say hassle, I mean, the various media players can't reliably show album art from music I bought from Amazon - Plain-jane MP3s. I had to use the SDK and examine the cat-logs in debug mode to see how the 'album-art' processes crashed on certain tracks. No normal user should have to install the Android SDK and run a debugger to see why his album art shouldn't show up. I'm now wrestling to see why MixZing generated .m3u playlists are causing the stock player to crash. Again, I'll have to pull out the Android SDK and examine the crash logs.

As far as movies are concerned, I haven't found anything to resize my movies that I like. When I say movies, I'm talking about DivX, mostly. Outside of HD type movies or shows things work very well and play in what is a free player.

If you are talking about RockBase player, floating around, I wasn't very impressed at the fps playback. It isn't flawless. It is beta-software so I can forgive.
Again, I'm so freaking spoiled with 720p H.264 HD video that I can't even look at my old DIVX movies any more. It is literally like comparing a 640x480 divx to pre-Win 95 320x240 avi file. With the iPhone 4, you don't even need to sync the files. You can put it in dropbox, copy them over via any web-dav app like "File Folder" or store the files on a webserver and point Safari and it will play. So, with any new camcorder/camera that uses standard H.264, the files play with zero conversion or hassle. I have about 40 hours of video just from my camera and I don't have to do anything to make it work. Can you imagine running hand-brake just so I can only play it on the Incredible. That would take weeks/month to convert for a format that is just for the Incredible.


I now have both phones (until I get a DroidX) so I will enjoy the advantages of what both of them will offer.

 

[Droidus]

I agree. Make navigation a tie, but also make battery a tie. His lasts longer, I can change mine.

Lol...no, battery life is stock vs stock. You dont do a review and then say...I put in a 2100 battery in the Dinc. Thats just not how reviews are done on a level plane.

The Iphone4 is a better phone, but not by too much. Lucky for Android users, apple releases a phone once a year. We get many many phones a year and many options for peoples needs and tastes.

 

[Heelfan71]

Lol...no, battery life is stock vs stock. You dont do a review and then say...I put in a 2100 battery in the Dinc. Thats just not how reviews are done on a level plane.

The Iphone4 is a better phone, but not by too much. Lucky for Android users, apple releases a phone once a year. We get many many phones a year and many options for peoples needs and tastes.

I hook my DINC up to a car battery. It blows away the iphone battery ! I get 5 years out of a charge.

 

[Dex]

You sound like a reasonable person. Sounds like you have a your setup well organized. Now, imagine the same level of "OCD" organization for photos, e-books, and movies as well. 3000 photos and 60 Albums. It will take a lot of OCD effort to organize those too. I was doing the same thing as you with a Chinese Rockhip PMP player and I made that effort because it has HD output and can play any and every file format (FLV/Divx/WMV/720p H.264) under the sun. But like most people, I don't like carrying around too many devices (I carry 3 phones already). iTunes, not perfect, works for most people. For music, I don't need to convert. I don't play wmv or even AAC and try to stick to just mp3s.

I'm giving up on the idea of using the Incredible as a media-playback device.
When I got my Incredible, I was a bit disappointed because it has the hardware (1ghz snapdragon) but can't play the hi-resolution files (flvs/wmvs/h.264/mkv) my $60 Chinese PMP does. The iPhone 4, like the Incredible, is not perfect either but it does play 90% of my files - H.264 720p. MP4 is the general direction of the future so I'm not too concern about the inability to play DIVX- I still have my Chinese PMP that plays everything I considered to legacy/out-dated. In fact, I 'll upgrade that chinese PMP because they even now play 1080p WMV files. If the Incredible was 1/2 as good as any of the Chinese based rockchip PMPs, then yes, I will make the effort like you. It is still possible because Android is an open platform and anything is possible. 2 months of hassle sync, converting files to play on the INC was resolved with a 10 minute sync of the new iPhone. When I say hassle, I mean, the various media players can't reliably show album art from music I bought from Amazon - Plain-jane MP3s. I had to use the SDK and examine the cat-logs in debug mode to see how the 'album-art' processes crashed on certain tracks. No normal user should have to install the Android SDK and run a debugger to see why his album art shouldn't show up. I'm now wrestling to see why MixZing generated .m3u playlists are causing the stock player to crash. Again, I'll have to pull out the Android SDK and examine the crash logs.

First, let me say that MixZing sucks. Some people might like it, but I really just can't get into it. I put all of my music on my internal storage. I am still a bit upset about how that was handled and wish that they had taken the Samsung approach, so it would be easier to access things from there. That aside, it is fairly fast and my stock player suits me just fine. The inability to keep all of my album art intact is an issue, but most of my songs have been properly tagged with art. I have heard good things about TuneWiki, though.

Again, I came from using Creative devices that didn't require a particular DRM and allowed pretty much every format. I used dBpoweramp to batch covert the songs that I wanted, shrink them to an appropriate bitrate and make them WMAs to put on the Incredible. While it sounds like a convoluted process, it really wasn't all that hard. I was once a fan of Rhapsody, but abandoned it because of their limited support for media players. Now that I've got an Android device, I am tempted to pick it back up.

If you are talking about RockBase player, floating around, I wasn't very impressed at the fps playback. It isn't flawless. It is beta-software so I can forgive.
Again, I'm so freaking spoiled with 720p H.264 HD video that I can't even look at my old DIVX movies any more. It is literally like comparing a 640x480 divx to pre-Win 95 320x240 avi file. With the iPhone 4, you don't even need to sync the files. You can put it in dropbox, copy them over via any web-dav app like "File Folder" or store the files on a webserver and point Safari and it will play. So, with any new camcorder/camera that uses standard H.264, the files play with zero conversion or hassle. I have about 40 hours of video just from my camera and I don't have to do anything to make it work. Can you imagine running hand-brake just so I can only play it on the Incredible. That would take weeks/month to convert for a format that is just for the Incredible.


I now have both phones (until I get a DroidX) so I will enjoy the advantages of what both of them will offer.

It is beta and it does have issues. My only problem has come with 1280x720 movies, but to be honest... I don't get to see it in all of it's glory. Formatting it to a more appropriate size would probably allow me to view it. MP4 may well be the way of the future, DivX is very much still alive now. I've been loving the format for about 10 years now. Not to take anything away from the iPhone. It's kind of like the Flash vs. HTML5 debate, sure HTML5 is the future, but Flash is now.

It didn't take me any time to convert to levels to get plenty of music and a DivX movie or two on the phone. Not to mention the dozen or so other videos in normal cell phone format onto the phone.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

That aside, it is fairly fast and my stock player suits me just fine. The inability to keep all of my album art intact is an issue, but most of my songs have been properly tagged with art. I have heard good things about TuneWiki, though.

My files are perfectly tagged. I buy them directly from amazon.com and all the Android players seem to mess them up. They all have embedded album art and proper ID3 tagging.

I feel like I am doing Q/A for HTC and not getting paid for it. No sensible/normal person should have to install the SDK Developers kit and run a catlog debugger to see why their media player is screwed up.It seems like I tether my phone all the time in debugger to catch all the bugs with the media player, the camera, etc....

For example, from the debugger in the SDK I see the real-time where the player trips. I have a dozen examples and I even exported the SQL-lite database from my phone and viewed it.

In this example, the path was not properly inserted in the SQL insertion. The didn't add slashes or the file name was too long.

and

The media database gets corrupted easily. I can easily update, remove,add change playlist all the time on the iPhone. If you add/delete/remove playlists, you will get corruption, the debugger shows it looking for album art to different tracks. I even see it in the database.

There are examples where it looks for files that don't exist or they exist on the /emmc instead of the /sdcard path.

Again, I feel like I am doing Q/A for HTC and not getting paid for.
So even if all your tags/meta-data is correct, it will get corrupt and will see oddities like no album art

 

[armoredsaint]

what a tool, wait till he holds the phone incorrectly and loses signal connection talking to his mommy to pick him up

 

[Mondaris]

This must have been filmed in some dark corner of hell. Has to be. Only place I can think of where ATT has a stronger signal than Verizon, and I have done some serious miles across this country.

I rarely ever see more than two bars on my incredible, though I've never had a dropped call either. I feel that he also forgets to mention how much more customizable the inc is over the iphone. You can really make a android phone look a lot different.

 

[Jiqiren]

my 3gs lasted all day. I charged it every night when I slept. my Dinc I have to charge 2x per day. This is with the same usage between the two.

I don't have this problem.

 

[gmaellex01]

Lol...no, battery life is stock vs stock. You dont do a review and then say...I put in a 2100 battery in the Dinc. Thats just not how reviews are done on a level plane.

Well if reviews are done on a level plane then we should mark Apple off for all of its intentional shortcomings:

-On a bad network -Points off
-No replaceable battery -Points off
-3.5" square shaped screen -Points off
-Limited functionality of software -Points off
-Closed source -Points off
-Only one model available -Points off
-Limited multitasking -Points off
-No flash support ? -Points off
-No widgets -Points off
-No MicroSD -Points off
-Max storage is 32gb -Points off

etc etc etc ad infinitum....

 

[Dex]

My files are perfectly tagged. I buy them directly from amazon.com and all the Android players seem to mess them up. They all have embedded album art and proper ID3 tagging.

I feel like I am doing Q/A for HTC and not getting paid for it. No sensible/normal person should have to install the SDK Developers kit and run a catlog debugger to see why their media player is screwed up.It seems like I tether my phone all the time in debugger to catch all the bugs with the media player, the camera, etc....

For example, from the debugger in the SDK I see the real-time where the player trips. I have a dozen examples and I even exported the SQL-lite database from my phone and viewed it.

In this example, the path was not properly inserted in the SQL insertion. The didn't add slashes or the file name was too long.

and

The media database gets corrupted easily. I can easily update, remove,add change playlist all the time on the iPhone. If you add/delete/remove playlists, you will get corruption, the debugger shows it looking for album art to different tracks. I even see it in the database.

There are examples where it looks for files that don't exist or they exist on the /emmc instead of the /sdcard path.

Again, I feel like I am doing Q/A for HTC and not getting paid for.
So even if all your tags/meta-data is correct, it will get corrupt and will see oddities like no album art

I didn't say that I disagreed. I was just saying that I haven't had luck as bad as some others who are upset with their album art on the Incredible. I did go to great lengths to make sure that this was the case, though. That was due to my dedication to keeping my music so well intact and just the way I want it.

To be honest, I'd rather have issues than have to install Quicktime/iTunes on any computer that I own. That's just a preference.

 

[mdonova33]

No doubt.....a great fair video(the Youtube one from CNET) that mentions the Incredible as "as good, or better"....I totally agree, everyone is so brainwashed with apples marketing crap that they are missing the Android Revolution!! I have news folks, IOS4 is yesterday's news, Android OS is way better in my opinion!! Well at least we know that, right?!

What's the video on cnet called?

Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

 

[ChiTownJim]

I played with my friends Iphone4 yesterday while Istill hate the OS and how it works, the hardware is amazing , the screen is beautiful especially in direct sunlight, the video recording isn't really much better then the DI but the Video Editing is awesome. I think it looks fantastic has a very industrial feel to it , so mcuh better then the old bump look .
If I could get this phone on verizon with android , I'd dump my DI in a heart beat but Apple OS is not for me and ATT isn't up to par.

 

[Mammal186]

mrspeedmasters drumbeat of negativity notwithstanding...

Both are great phones. Both will be obsolete in 2 years (if that)

There are some really great things I can do with my Inc. It has amazing capabilities. Personally I think it has more potential to expand than the Iphone 4 does at this point, most likely because they made the Iphone with the 4G in the batting circle.
Im amazed that I can tether with my phone, or have dual band wireless N connection. I love Verizons coverage and service. I know OC'd Kernals, FroYo and 720p recording are just around the corner... these are all things I never knew were coming when I bought the phone. Its blazing fast... its fun, and it works great. Ive rooted my device, but even without root, Ive changed the Keyboard, Ive changed the UI, Ive changed the icons, the wallpapers, the lock, the sounds and everything hundreds of times, as the mood fits me.

Does the battery suck? uhh Yea. It does. (but for whatever reason Ive been getting amazing battery life lately). But I can open up the back and pop a new one in 30 seconds (try that with your Iphone 4), or I can slide a another SD card in. I have to do the same things with my $7,000 DSLR camera... so its not really that big of deal.

The Iphone 4 LOOKS amazing. It really does. The screen pops out at you, and the colors are amazingly vivid. Every new top tier smartphone is going to look that in a year or two... so its DEFINITELY a good thing. Apple has set the standard for resolution. But is there anything else so overwhelmingly wonderful about it? Not really. Don't get me wrong.. if its not the best phone, its certainly one of the top 2 or 3 on the market right now... right now.... It wont be by Christmas.

Finally, if you are holding a Incredible, or an Iphone 4, or any of the top tier phones... be happy, you are holding a wonderful piece of technology.... that you are going to want to replace in 6 months.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

mrspeedmasters drumbeat of negativity notwithstanding...
Both are great phones. Both will be obsolete in 2 years (if that)

LOL... Both will be obsolete by next February.

Finally, if you are holding a Incredible, or an Iphone 4, or any of the top tier phones... be happy, you are holding a wonderful piece of technology.... that you are going to want to replace in 6 months.

True.

As for being negative. I just say it like it is. I love the Android OS. I like the open architecture, open file system,etc... I like how I can run a webserver/web-dav/ftp server from my Incredible and give people files from anywhere. I love Google Voice and cant live without it.

I prefer the iOS applications and polish. Apps like media player, camera, even system administration apps are better. iSSH, the VNC, and mySQL apps are better on iOS than on Android. You figure it would be the other way around because Android is Linux based.

Froyo will hopefully change. I still can't believe Google Apps like Google Earth is ridiculously faster on the iPhone than it is on Android.

I'm lucky enough to be in a position to use both devices.

 

[Skipdawg]

I had a chance to check out the iPhone 4 Saturday. Not bad but IMHO the Dinc is better and the fella seemed to be more impressed with the Dinc. He said he had to wait in a line 5 hours to get his iPhone 4. Crazy. Glad I had the Dinc delivered to my door day 1. lol

 

[JuniorNA]

lot of reviews out there say the iphone4 screen trumps any android phone screen out right now, including evo 4g, and including the HD2. Not sure why i've been reading that all over, and i've made sure i'm not reading all i-FanBitch posts/blogs/reviews, i've been reading neutral stance positions and they all say the iPhone4 screen is the screen to have in the smart phone world. Interesting how everyone says different here, i hope we're not all turning into Droid-lovers and really hating all other phones on the market right now that does not have a Droid attached to the logo.

 

[Maxpilot]

Here is my experience with battery life:

Iphone 4: Thursday morning full charge at 7AM.
Friday night 7pm, still have 1/4 bar left. Played music for a good 4 hours.
This is after synching apps, testing out the phone, synched 9GB of music, 2GB of photos, 3GB of videos. Took 30 photos, 15 minutes of video. A good two days of use. And this is after getting the phone so I had to test it out to the max.

My Incredible. Friday morning full charged at 6AM. Battery dead at 11AM. Recharged and back again by noon. By 7pm 1/4 battery. I couldn't do a battery photo comparison because after 20 photos on the INC, the battery was completely exhausted. My normal use is 20 minutes web surfing n 3G, continual email checking and facebook.

I synch and get about 120 mails in the morning; continually. I only have bluetooth on and I only get 4 hours on the DINC. The iPhone with the same mail settings downloading the same mail- with GPS, WIFI, bluetooth on, the battery still runs. No need to run any task killer or disable widgets.

I will go back to VZW and demand another battery replacement or by a 1700mAH battery.

On my Dinc, I turn it on at 7 am, I have GPS and Bluetooth on all day, and it still has 40% power left at 10 pm when I turn it off and plug it into the charger. I think your DInc battery is bad and you should get it replaced.