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Droid X vs Samsung Galaxy S

Id get the Fasinate though i dont care for the keyboard. Better screen and just a better phone imo. I also dont care for how big the Droid X is. It is bigger than the Fasinate and not just by screen size. It is at least a 1/2 inch longer too. My Vibrant is as big as id want to go.
 
TheAlmightyDrew said:
What you should do is go to T-Mobile or AT&T and play around with one of those Galaxy S phones. That will be the closest representation of the Fascinate that you are going to get. The Fascinate doesn't come out until the 9th (unofficial but pretty much confirmed), so you won't be able to play with it before your 30 day window with the Droid X is up, obviously. The Fascinate is essentially the same thing as the T-Mobile Vibrant but the Fascinate will have a LED flash. But the shape is the same.

So go to T-Mobile and use the Vibrant for a little while to see if it is something you want to give up your Droid X for.
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Have you had a chance to check one of the Galaxy S phones yet? If so, thoughts?
 
TheXFactor said:
Have you had a chance to check one of the Galaxy S phones yet? If so, thoughts?
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I have only gotten a chance to use the Captivate and it was definitely a great phone. It was fast and smooth, and the screen looked absolutely phenomenal. I was a bit surprised when the AT&T salesmen told me there was no flash. However, I snapped a few pictures and they looked great. In fact, you can go here and see pictures that people have taken with their Captivates. I also took some HD video and that looked great as well. I couldn't really tell if the sound quality was on par with the Droid X's. Since the Droid X has three different microphones for video recording, I doubt the Captivate has better audio quality. The phone was very very light and thin. The Captivate is actually just about an ounce lighter than the Droid X.

I personally can't wait until the Fascinate comes out. It will have almost the same look and feel of my iPhone 3G that I had for over a year and a half on the exterior with Android OS in the interior. I loved my iPhone but after spending a few weeks with the Droid X and Motoblur, I have no interest in going back to the bottled up iOS with all its Apple limitations on what you can and can't do. The Fascinate seems like it will be the perfect cross between my iPhone 3G and the Droid X.
 
I had a Droid X for the majority of July and part of August before jumping ship to At & t and getting the Captivate

Yeah, I know I am a sellout...

Honestly, the Droid X on Verizon is the best Verizon Android phone to date....The Droid inc, Droid, Devour, Ally, Eris and Droid 2 are great phones for the markets they meet/met but I feel like the Droid X can touch into all markets...

it is not overwhelming for first time android users...However, it is not underwhelming for Veteran Android users either

However, I will say that I believe the Galaxy S phones are a lot better

First of all, this screen is just totally gorgeous and I can't see myself using a phone with anything less than Super Amoled(maybe Retina or regular Amoled)

I like Blur but touchwiz is absolutely amazing...i love the widgets inside the dockbar

1)the music Player widgets are in the dockbar.....and OH MY GOD, this music player is ****ing sexy....love it

2)4.3 was never big to me and 4 inches is not small to me(hmm, just realized how it sounds lol)...it's perfect....

The phone is light and i played with a Vibrant and that sucker is light to

3)I love the widgets that samsung offers vs HTC and Motorola's widget(love how u can resize) and it social networks alot better than Blur and Sense and love it for that

The Camera has lower pixels minus a flash but it takes gorgeous pics none the less

Overall, it has the same android OS(2.1) but i believe that Samsung Galaxy S Series phones have also added so much more to it to make the Android Experience so much better

i loved my droid X for the most part but I love Samsung.

I still think that the Droid X will be a better seller because it has that Droid Name attached to it but overall, I recommend the Fascinate(Captivate/Vibrant/Epic) over any other Android phone to date
 
The Faceless Rebel said:
Bigger apps like Mozilla Fennec are the future, not the exception. If you are expecting a full desktop browsing experience with Flash and other plugins and a full rendering engine, you will need to get used to desktop-like memory footprints. I expect that the full version of Mozilla Fennec will have a Firefox-like memory requirement, which will push our 512MB of RAM very hard as well as occupy lots of internal memory.
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Yea, I get that part. But unlike our desktop computers, we rely on batteries. And we don't have a foot-long battery to support those things.

By that time programs become as bloated as Fennec, you'll have a new phone, guaranteed.

There's still a perception about large file programs being inefficient on mobile devices (constrain by battery life) to be the norm. I can guarantee you that it won't happen in the lifespan of the Fascinate before it becomes obsoleted.
 
I'm concerned about battery life on these Galaxy Phones. My Droid X has excellent battery life, the reception and voice quality is superb.

Can the Galaxy phones compete?
 
TheXFactor said:
I'm concerned about battery life on these Galaxy Phones. My Droid X has excellent battery life, the reception and voice quality is superb.

Can the Galaxy phones compete?
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What kind of things do you do on your phone? Here is what Slashgear had to say about the battery life for the Galaxy S

Battery life, meanwhile, proved more impressive than expected. With push email turned on and regular use, we got through two days from the Galaxy S’ 1,500mAh battery, surprising indeed for a modern touchscreen smartphone.
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Here is what Android Central had to say:

And speaking of the battery, it's of the 1500 mAh variety and got us through a day's use without any real problems. That includes a bunch of e-mail, web browsing, a bit of a movie and a few games.
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Basically, the phones will get you a day's worth of battery life with regular use like e-mail, web browsing, messaging etc etc. A day's worth of battery is pretty much a standard thing amongst smartphones today. Don't trust that stupid article that has been floating around because that only took web browsing into consideration which isn't a far competition for the phones with AMOLED screens.
 
Imo samsung phones "feel" cheap in general. I haven't played with the galaxy s phones so I'll refrain from calling them out specifically. I think build quality of the big android companies is 1. Moto 2. Htc 3. Samsung. And that's one of the big draws for me. How it feels. Solid or like a toy. My incredible feels like a toy coming from my x. And not because of the size. though size is an issue now also. I couldn't imagine my primary phone being less than 4.3" (in fact I'm hopeful for a 4.5" phone)
 
TheAlmightyDrew said:
What kind of things do you do on your phone? Here is what Slashgear had to say about the battery life for the Galaxy S

Here is what Android Central had to say:

Basically, the phones will get you a day's worth of battery life with regular use like e-mail, web browsing, messaging etc etc. A day's worth of battery is pretty much a standard thing amongst smartphones today. Don't trust that stupid article that has been floating around because that only took web browsing into consideration which isn't a far competition for the phones with AMOLED screens.
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Most of my usage is email, web and calls. I travel 4 days a week. I need a phone that has strong reception because some of the areas I travel aren't as well covered as others. I need to have a smartphone that can get me from 5 am until 8 pm.
 
TheXFactor said:
Most of my usage is email, web and calls. I travel 4 days a week. I need a phone that has strong reception because some of the areas I travel aren't as well covered as others. I need to have a smartphone that can get me from 5 am until 8 pm.
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You could also just buy another battery from Amazon. They are pretty cheap. A lot of people who use their smartphones very heavily for business buy an extra battery because they know their heavy usage means the phone won't last the entire day. So they swap out batteries when one dies.

I know that with my Droid X, I only use it for music player, web browsing, a few calls and messaging. I use the music player A LOT because I like to listen to music as I walk from class to class. Doing all that, I can easily last the entire day and more. I am really hoping I get the same results with the Fascinate.

carmendiva said:
lol touche'

throw an Xperia in there as well...

it is always good to have family members on multiple carriers
to test drive other phones
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Jeez, you switch phones a lot. I thought I was bad, but at least I stayed within the same carrier haha. I had the iPhone 3G for about a year and a half. I went to Verizon and got the Droid X. Then I swapped my Droid X for the Droid 2. I regretted that decision fairly quickly and swapped it back for the Droid X. Now I am probably going to swap again for the Samsung Fascinate since that will be coming out within my 30 day window.
 
TheAlmightyDrew said:
Jeez, you switch phones a lot. I thought I was bad, but at least I stayed within the same carrier haha. I had the iPhone 3G for about a year and a half. I went to Verizon and got the Droid X. Then I swapped my Droid X for the Droid 2. I regretted that decision fairly quickly and swapped it back for the Droid X. Now I am probably going to swap again for the Samsung Fascinate since that will be coming out within my 30 day window.
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Im trying to work on this addiction lolzzz
 
The Faceless Rebel said:
Bigger apps like Mozilla Fennec are the future, not the exception. If you are expecting a full desktop browsing experience with Flash and other plugins and a full rendering engine, you will need to get used to desktop-like memory footprints. I expect that the full version of Mozilla Fennec will have a Firefox-like memory requirement, which will push our 512MB of RAM very hard as well as occupy lots of internal memory.
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You are right on the money there, and with 1GHz powerful processors and dedicated graphics chips, you are going to see apps getting bigger, better, more graphical, and more complicated - not smaller and simpler. If you have hardware that can do more, the software will follow. "If you build it, they will come." Anyways, the 2GB might not be a limitation for most users now, but it's a safe bet it will be. And your max on the DX, for example, is 6GB higher (40GB) versus the max with the Fascinate (34GB). That's a true limitation between devices any way you cut the cake. That's a couple of TV shows less, a few thousand pictures less, and fewer total eBooks or music files you can fit on it.

The Faceless Rebel said:
Froyo basically doubled my X's battery life. I can go almost but not quite 48 hours unplugged on a single charge with the extended battery and Froyo. And that's not letting the phone sit there unusued for 48 hours, that's surfing the web, installing apps, listening to bTunes, making voice calls, reading Engadget and Facebook, etc. I don't stream from Pandora or any other Internet radio but that's the only thing I don't do on my X.

You should try your X with Froyo and see the difference between it and the Incredible or any Galaxy S. My friend hates how his Incredible can't make it through a single day of moderate use, though he doesn't seem to be aware there is an extended battery for it which fits in the stock battery space.
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With Froyo hitting the Incredible, it should improve as well, but it's great to hear the DX improvements are substantial. Good news, and good signs of continued support on our phones' OS.

TheXFactor said:
So, really. What's the the general opinion here? X or the Fascinate? I have the X. 2 days left in the 30 day window.
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Tough choice. All I can say is that I was initially skeptical of the Droid X, and leaning towards just waiting on the Fascinate. The more I read, the more research I did, and the more ways they are crippling the Fascinate or it just plain comes up short (less RAM, less internal storage, Bing - which is actually just a minor gripe, less battery life, and no HDMI out) the more I leaned towards the Droid X. I finally ordered on last night. Unfortunately your window is almost up.

I'd rather have the 8GB over a camera flash ANY DAY. And I'd rather have the capability for HDMI out while playing videos and photos than analog out ANY DAY. The DX has both those features.

But I'm not you. I just wanted to give you my thoughts, since reading the thoughts, reviews, and feedback from others has been essential in helping me make my own decision. You may decide that the things I LOVE about the DX are things you hate, or like better on the Fascinate. If you're preferences are like mine, than maybe you'll be best served with what you got.
 
The X has a dual-LED flash. However I can tell you that the camera on X is not very good, I take more blurry photos than I take sharp ones. I really think the physical shutter on a camera that small was a mistake made with the X, because it can't seem to fire fast enough to take good steady shots.

The biggest problem I have with the Galaxy S series is that I think Samsung was more interested in making a super-phone with great specs to shop to the carriers than they were in making a phone which is usefully functional for use. Sure, the PowerVR SGX 540 GPU is way powerful and the Super AMOLED screen sounds great. But in real-world use, how powerful your phone's GPU doesn't affect actual daily use unless your only use for a phone is to play games, in which case you made a mistake buying a phone instead of a PSP or Nintendo DS. In real-world use, the Super AMOLED has a black level of absolutely zero but what good is that when you're looking at text messages and emails and web pages, exactly? Especially since the PenTile subpixel matrix makes squinting at small text on a web page much harder since it's so much poorer than the subpixel matrix we're used to with LCDs. Apple definitely got that right with the iPhone 4's Retina Display, no phone has a sharper screen than iPhone 4. The Galaxy S has these crazy specs but they aren't any use for what people use smartphones for, and that's why I think Samsung got it wrong with that series of phones.
 
The Faceless Rebel said:
The X has a dual-LED flash. However I can tell you that the camera on X is not very good, I take more blurry photos than I take sharp ones. I really think the physical shutter on a camera that small was a mistake made with the X, because it can't seem to fire fast enough to take good steady shots.

The biggest problem I have with the Galaxy S series is that I think Samsung was more interested in making a super-phone with great specs to shop to the carriers than they were in making a phone which is usefully functional for use. Sure, the PowerVR SGX 540 GPU is way powerful and the Super AMOLED screen sounds great. But in real-world use, how powerful your phone's GPU doesn't affect actual daily use unless your only use for a phone is to play games, in which case you made a mistake buying a phone instead of a PSP or Nintendo DS. In real-world use, the Super AMOLED has a black level of absolutely zero but what good is that when you're looking at text messages and emails and web pages, exactly? Especially since the PenTile subpixel matrix makes squinting at small text on a web page much harder since it's so much poorer than the subpixel matrix we're used to with LCDs. Apple definitely got that right with the iPhone 4's Retina Display, no phone has a sharper screen than iPhone 4. The Galaxy S has these crazy specs but they aren't any use for what people use smartphones for, and that's why I think Samsung got it wrong with that series of phones.
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Check out the videos I posted back a while ago...Google Earth ran a lot smoother because of the dedicated GPU.

Everyone that is dismissing the GPU because they don't play games are overlooking other applications that it might help with -- maybe even adobe flash in Froyo. Even Droid X have a dedicated GPU from what someone said, though a notch down.

The Galaxy S series is immensely successful in Korea. Its all about perception. Overall the reviews on the Galaxy S series is positive.

Regarding black level. Most of the built-in apps on the Samsung Galaxy S series uses a black backgrounds ...so it is definitely more pleasant with absolute black than say, greyish black. Does it help with task itself? No. But it sure makes watching videos and navigating websites a lot more pleasant when you're awed by the colors.

Its just not the blacks. Black is only one distinction of SAMOLED. And I absolutely LOVE the responsiveness of the touchscreen. It is miles ahead of my old HD2. That and I see potentials in xda+super good spec phone. :)
 
I really think the X is one of the best, if not the best phone on the market today. As a phone it's excellent. I do not have any complaints about the X. Aside from a few minor annoyances (and what phone doesn't have those), the more I use it, the more I like it.


I activated my DInc last night just to play around since it's been a few weeks since I've used it. Really love that phone too. But after a few hours. I'm back with the X.

I'm always torn between new and newer. LOL
 
We may not have yet seen the best optimization of the Omap chip. Kind of like SLI took a while for programmers to take advantage of. I think this chip has some uncharted territory that future updates will unveil.

Overall I think the X has a good balance of battery life, performance and screen size.
 
I agree with The Faceless Rebel, I see all the comments about the GPU and the SuperAMOLED screens but how do aspects such as battery life, call quality and reception compare for the average user? How do the cameras compare when photos or videos taken with the phones are viewed on other devices? And how might Froyo and subsequently Gingerbread affect any comparisons?
 
Hey, I saw a few reviews when the X came out that didnt even mention the reception and call quality.

One review, they mentioned the 4G on the EVO, the kickstand... but didnt mention the Diversity Antennas, reception, the noise cancellation, the video recording audio on the X.

How u gonna mention something one phone has and the other doesnt and rate that as a pro for that phone, but dont do that for the other phone?

Its true some ppl actually forget these are phones first.
 
Old Man said:
I agree with The Faceless Rebel, I see all the comments about the GPU and the SuperAMOLED screens but how do aspects such as battery life, call quality and reception compare for the average user? How do the cameras compare when photos or videos taken with the phones are viewed on other devices? And how might Froyo and subsequently Gingerbread affect any comparisons?
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This is why I am waiting on reviews for the Fascinate before I make my decision. I went out and swapped the Droid X for the Droid 2 without waiting for reviews. That was a mistake I won't make again. The reviews for the Galaxy S and Vibrant have been rather positive. Just about every reviewer has said that the Vibrant is easily the best smartphone available for T-Mobile. However, that is not really saying much since it is T-Mobile. I hope the reviewers weigh in on how the Fascinate does compared to the Droid X and Incredible.

Another thing that most reviewers have also said is that the Vibrant performs better and takes better pictures than the Captivate, so I don't know. I hope the Fascinate is on-par with the Vibrant. I am hoping to see some media reviews before the Fascinate comes out -- as well as some comparison videos.
 
Do the fasciante, vibrant, Captivate and Epic have the same megapixel amounts?
I know some have flash and some dont...or im not sure
 
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