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Captivate vs Windows Phone 7

So you make a thread about Captivate vs WP7, can't handle the comments relating to the subject and resort to attacking the poster. Got it.

Hating Google has nothing to do with it. Unlike some people, I don't connect my self worth to a product. I posted facts such as no GPU acceleration, audio latency issues and color depth issues with Android (and this isn't even counting the lousy harware such as our very own Captivate). These are objective issues. Care to debate them?

Care to explain why having no GPU acceleration is a good thing? Is built-in lag on the screen a good feature? Poor quality gaming with no GPU acceleration a good feature? Lousy media syncing a good feature? Or is this just a "rah rah, Android is the greatest" thread with no basis in reality?
Granted the captivate has its share of software bugs, which people have provided optimization fixes for... but I would hardly consider Captivates hardware to be "lousy".
 
yeah i have plenty of issues with the captivate
but i wouldn't say it's lousy

i just wish samsung would have spent more time with this phone before releasing it
 
Microsoft has to turn this into a viable retail product that can hang with the fiercest competition in the history of the cellphone in just a few months' time, and there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. Frankly, it's a little scary. ... the industry has already proven that it won't wait around for companies to play catch-up. It's not about lapping the competition at this point, it's about just being in the race -- and if Microsoft doesn't know that by now, it may already be too late."
From: Windows Phone 7 in-depth preview -- Engadget

the experience for us felt a little too much like our time using the Microsoft KIN 2. The tiled homescreen seems a little too constrained and boxed in for us, and the non-frills design approach actually left the handset menus and navigational elements feeling bare and unfinished, rather than pure and unaltered. Not having any sort of menu for hoping back and forth between applications hampers your every day usage, and the animated transitions also start to feel old pretty fast. For a phone that was made from scratch and started on after the first iPhone was introduced, and for a phone that
 
I do echo some of the negative sentiments of Android too, it doesn't have the polish of older OSes, but is very functional. But thats what you get (and what I have come to expect) with software that has open source beginnings. It's not as bad as Android_J says it is, but it could be a lot better to be on version 2.2.

Microsoft has nailed the user experience portion of WP7 down. And their killer app is XBox/Zune integration. Zune is hands down the best music player/streaming service out. I think once they fill out the rest of the OS, they'll have a hit on their hands.

Google doesn't seem to want to provide a *great* user experience. They just need to provide a *good enough* user experience. Their money maker isn't in making software or hardware. Their money maker is in data mining people and selling ads. They rush out code to introduce new features with apparent disregard to UI experience. For example, why does the new Google Maps have a giant control panel up on top? It takes away valuable screen space, especially in landscape mode.

I completely agree. Other OSes (WebOS, iOS, WP7) are vested in the user experience of their platform because their platform makes money. Google's platform is a stage for ads...so there focus hasn't really been on user experience which is why it feels like a modern Windows Mobile...lol.

Hopefully thats solved with Gingerbread.
 
Looks like wm7 has netflix integration out the box.

:(

WHY GOOGGLE WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!?!?! NO NETFLIX!?!?!?

FUUUUUUUUuuuuuu!
 
Looks like wm7 has netflix integration out the box.

:(

WHY GOOGGLE WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!?!?! NO NETFLIX!?!?!?

FUUUUUUUUuuuuuu!

I don't think it's so much a case of Google forsaking us, as much as it is Netflix. Apparently they're working on rolling out Android apps sometime in the future though. It's anyone's guess as to when that might happen though. :P
 
Looks like wm7 has netflix integration out the box.

:(

WHY GOOGGLE WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!?!?! NO NETFLIX!?!?!?

FUUUUUUUUuuuuuu!

It's not up to Google to write Netflix's app for them. Netflix write their own apps. Complain to Netflix, not Google.

That said, they're obviously working on it:

netflix-500x215.jpg
 
I think WM7 will give Apple a run for the money with corporate users, I'm sure MS spent tons of money making sure Outlook and Office integrate extremely well with this phone. The Apple camp is great for folks who want something that works out of the box and provides centralized syncing. Anrdoid camp is for folks who love freedom, love to tweak their phones, experiment, etc. All three camps will have their pros/cons, it's up to the end user as to which experience you really want from your device. As CarmenDiva stated, Android phones do have juicy hardware, that can't be argued and was one of the many pros that made me get a Captivate.

It's going to be interesting how these three OS morph in the coming months/years. Too early to tell how successful WM7 will be but don't count out MS, they've shown to spend endlessly to take over a market.
 
The corporate aspect is definitely going to be important here. I am really appalled at the lack of PDA style cohesiveness on this phone - it's a lovely device, but you really need to spend lots of time figuring out stuff if you're new to Android. I'm a complete noOb here, and it is driving me crazy - fortunately I have time to fiddle with it, when you're tied to a desk job and have to get things done this can be very off-putting.
 
I personally think the W7 phones look good. Seems very polished of a system. I am sure people will be able to hack these like any other technology...but how stable and reliable they will be...who knows?

I would love to have my hands on one...I will check them out when they come out....next month is it?
 
Didnt' read most of this thread and don't know much about the actual phone but Windows 7 is my favorite OS out of any that I've ever tried. Doesn't mean it'll be a good phone OS but it's a good concept to build off of.
 
I had to choose between the captivate or the new microsoft phone I would pick the captivate.
I If had to pick between the iphone or the new microsoft phone I would pick the new microsoft phone.

I hate apple. This is my first android phone and its pretty good.
For some reason the best phpnes I've had had been been samsung.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the WP7 interface looks like absolute sh!t?

I do hope they allow for home screen replacements.
 
MS and Adobe are in bed together, so I would go as far as saying that yes it will support flash. As for the homescreen question, it's customizable and if you see videos, allows you to dig-in in a nice way. I think the phone will be a big hit with corporate users, given how tight outlook/office integration is. This is something Apple and Android lack, so that would be the first segment of the market I see them gaining market share in.
 
I just came from winmo 6.5 (Tilt 2). It was really quite awful.
I would be hesitant to switch back to winmo.
My experience with Android has been great. I read so many threads bad mouthing the Captivate, that I have to wonder if people have a different phone than I do. My Captivate is FAST, responsive, and reliable. I only have to reboot because I WANT to, but rarely because I have to. With winmo I had to constantly reset, several times a day, due to freezing etc.
The only thing I will acknowledge as a problem with the Captivate is the GPS. I can live with this, since I have a GPS unit in my car. Other than that I love the Captivate, and Android.
I see how quickly Android is evolving, and it is impressive. Winmo took years to make baby steps. Between WM 6, to 6.1, to 6.5 I had 3 phones (in 3 years). The difference in the OSes were minimal. Still the same lags, still the same freezing etc...
My boyfriend has an Android phone which had 1.5 (Samsung Moment), and the improvements since that phone (in about a year) are astounding. I can only dream of what the Android future hold :D

I think I'll stick with Android :)
 
Why, because he spends his time giving away billions of dollars to charity? I don't see Jobs or the Google twins doing this.

As far as I can tell, WP7 will be better than Android right out of the gate. Everything points to a more polished interface and smoother operation. Android is close to awful. Laggy, buggy and missing polish. Android apps are in the same boat. Force close this, force close that, lockups, reboots, etc. Who cares if there's 20 messaging apps if they all suck and the best one (Handcent) is essentially an iOS ripoff? Customizing the phone is overrated. Functionality trumps all and Android leaves a lot to be desired in overall usage and polish.

The only question is hardware specs from the various vendors. Obviously I would *never* consider a Samsung WP7 phone after the Captivate/Galaxy S debacle. I will wait to see what HTC has in store for WP7.

If it wasn't for the iPhone 4 fiasco I would have never tried Android. Glad I had a chance to see for myself though. My conclusion is it's nowhere near as good as iOS. Hell, it's nowhere near as good as Palm's webOS in overall polish.

It's easy to talk bad and be negative toward something, all these OS have issues, WEBOS is nice and all but "where it's at"?. Polish is the new iphone killer term these days. Android can't do this or its not polish is all i keep hearing but last i heard it's been on a steady growth than all the other OS. As for WP7, they had to step their game up, their behind. The user determine what he or she want and like about their phone.
 
Android can't do this or its not polish is all i keep hearing but last i heard it's been on a steady growth than all the other OS.
Steady growth? Of course it's on a stead growth. There's nowhere to go but up from zero. That's the same story Apple tells about Mac OS. Sure it's on a steady growth, but overall is still peanuts compared to Windows. And Android is still peanuts to iOS. 5% to 10% is a 100% growth, but it's still nothing in the overall scheme of things.

As for the reason behind Android's growth it's because it's available on every carrier and is available on high end and low end devices. The iPhone is on *one* carrier in the U.S. and is essentially one model. When the iPhone gets released on Verizon (and potentially others in the U.S.), look out. WP7 will take it's share (especially with corporate users), but iPhone will take the lion's share. Bank on it. I would be very surprised if Android can maintain its growth.

Also consider that part of Android's growth is from people like me that wanted to try it out. I'm 99.9% sure that my next phone will *not* be an Android phone. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment. We'll revisit this thread in a year and see if Android is still on a steady growth. My bet is Android won't catch Apple and will be overtaken by Microsoft.
 
Didnt' read most of this thread and don't know much about the actual phone but Windows 7 is my favorite OS out of any that I've ever tried. Doesn't mean it'll be a good phone OS but it's a good concept to build off of.

I think that's just branding. I wonder if Windows 7 has ANYTHING to do with Windows Phone 7. I mean they don't even look the same.
 
Steady growth? Of course it's on a stead growth. There's nowhere to go but up from zero. That's the same story Apple tells about Mac OS. Sure it's on a steady growth, but overall is still peanuts compared to Windows. And Android is still peanuts to iOS. 5% to 10% is a 100% growth, but it's still nothing in the overall scheme of things.

As for the reason behind Android's growth it's because it's available on every carrier and is available on high end and low end devices. The iPhone is on *one* carrier in the U.S. and is essentially one model. When the iPhone gets released on Verizon (and potentially others in the U.S.), look out. WP7 will take it's share (especially with corporate users), but iPhone will take the lion's share. Bank on it. I would be very surprised if Android can maintain its growth.

Also consider that part of Android's growth is from people like me that wanted to try it out. I'm 99.9% sure that my next phone will *not* be an Android phone. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment. We'll revisit this thread in a year and see if Android is still on a steady growth. My bet is Android won't catch Apple and will be overtaken by Microsoft.
So every other OS can succeed except android, i see what your about, keep plotting against the green guy time will tell it all.
 
Steady growth? Of course it's on a stead growth. There's nowhere to go but up from zero. That's the same story Apple tells about Mac OS. Sure it's on a steady growth, but overall is still peanuts compared to Windows. And Android is still peanuts to iOS. 5% to 10% is a 100% growth, but it's still nothing in the overall scheme of things.

As for the reason behind Android's growth it's because it's available on every carrier and is available on high end and low end devices. The iPhone is on *one* carrier in the U.S. and is essentially one model. When the iPhone gets released on Verizon (and potentially others in the U.S.), look out. WP7 will take it's share (especially with corporate users), but iPhone will take the lion's share. Bank on it. I would be very surprised if Android can maintain its growth.

Also consider that part of Android's growth is from people like me that wanted to try it out. I'm 99.9% sure that my next phone will *not* be an Android phone. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment. We'll revisit this thread in a year and see if Android is still on a steady growth. My bet is Android won't catch Apple and will be overtaken by Microsoft.

There is a difference between MacOS and Android. You said it yourself - Android is on MANY phones from the low end to the high end (and on most carriers) where MacOS only exists only on Apple computers which are mostly priced towards the high end (so it isn't the best analogy). My guess is Android is only going to continue to grow in the future. It's highly doubtful that Windows Mobile will ever catch up to Android at this rate.

I'm not saying that Android will be catching up to iOS anytime soon but it does have a very bright future. Even if Apple goes to other carriers try getting a free upgrade with iOS installed on it - It's never gonna happen.
 
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