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Sprint makes Premium Data changes from Jan 30, 2011

Settling & caving in to large corporations are whats ruining this country. Seriously. Don't people have a backbone anymore to stand up for themselves?

Kind of like when someone is getting beat up and nobody does a damn thing about it. Disgusting spineless cowards.

But hey, that's the 'Obama' way.

Well, enough politics for now. I have to get some sleep, and we are just going in circles.

Hopefully you'll learn someday that standing up for the greater good, and for yourself more importantly, is a good thing.:)\

Good night.

-IOWA

WOW!! So from what I have said you think I am a liberal and voted for that douche bag? WOW!!! Is all I can say to that! People who actually know me know that I absolutely stand up for things..... And that I would never say anything good about Obama!
 
The problem with your thoughts is if someone decides to upgrade their old POS blackberry (old curve or tour) and get the 3g curve, there is nothing about it that says you'll utilize data more than your old blackberry especially if you could give a rat's ass about social crap, yet you're stuck paying $120 more per year. 3g service pretty much is what it is, and they're not utilizing 4g. Some people actually need a smartphone because it's smart. Calendar, contacts and email that aren't nearly as in depth as dumbphones. Yet these people are all being penalized. Not everyone surfs and streams. If that's the case it makes me feel better turning off my radio and streaming TuneIn Radio and Pandora all day long while I'm driving. Use the Sirius app when I have lifetime service on my Stiletto 2. If half the people in my company use a gig or less a month, I might as well use 20gb.

I recetly bought a bunch of BB Curve's ($100 new) and activated them on accounts for people that wanted them so I wouldn't up their phone service. Then on the 29th I'll buy a bunch of 4g phones (shift, epic, and evo) on those accounts, lock in the current non premium plan the BB's are on and utilize those phones elsewhere or just sell them and make money. Can buy some more BB's and do ESN swaps until the contract is up.

Also, the only phones that are really worth their salt are the 4g models. All the rest are crap. So if they're going to be stuck paying the extra $10/mo, might as well get the Evo Shift if you were considering the Transform. The phones are worlds apart. Heck, you could buy the shift, sell it on ebay, buy the transform on ebay and make money.

And, as a small business, the lines now get blurred when it comes to pricing. My business rep hasn't chimed in about the phone upgrades. We've been a customer for well over a decade, but do all of our lines qualify or just the one on the 4000 minute plan? What happens the next time Sprint gives us clunkers like the Moment, Hero, Instinct and Intercept where their useful life is lucky to be a year due to lackluster hardware and lack of updates? That 2nd year is torture.

And your phone is subsidized because of a 2yr service contract. They're not doing you a favor there. They are locking you in knowing they'll recoup that money for two years.

I spent plenty of time defending sprint when all the SERO whiners complained incessantly. But I just don't see the ROI in a blanket way for customers, especially from a company that continues to leak customers like a sieve. One of the companies I represent does a piss poor job of marketing, development and so on. Has a hard time increasing sales because of it, and the products are actually decent. But fixes, updates and such just don't come in a timely manner whatsoever. So what happens, they keep jacking up prices EVERY year so they can satisfy share holders leaving us to scramble, back pedal and such to try and pass along the price increase to the customer, and in some cases we just end up dealing with a lower commission because we can't pass the increase along. But the funny thing is, I don't see improvements coming any sooner, instrumentation for the products getting better. So my extra money goes where? Heck, I have a phone I paid a $50 premium for up front and an extra $10/mo more than normal. And the service they've provided on it has been far less than premium. So I'm already paying more for less, and now the rest of my people get to as well.
I'd say you're ahead of the curve,if I find anyone needing a bb,I'll pm ya..
 
I have a brand of common sense I would like to share with you all. It's a tough one to start but I love it. Quit bitching and do something about it if you're not happy. I do, as apparently MissJennell, a simple process of sitting down and seeing what carrier is the best choice for me. Sprint is my top choice for the are I live in. I have at one point had Sprint, T-mobile, At&t, and Vzw devices and to be totally honest had by far, the best reception with Sprint. That is including having only 1 device have service in a area. That alone is worth the extra $10 a month to me. I bought a smartphone knowing that there would be extra charges for data usage, and that is fine with me. If I have to pay more to be able to have service when I need it then I will. That extra $10 doesn't break me considering it is still cheaper than the other carriers. Within a month or two Sprint will be my only carrier.
 
It's not capatilism when all the carriers sit in a back room and determine they are all going to raise prices within 2 days of each other, while killing off upgrades, and madating more "mandatory" charges for owning a phone.

Seriously? Do you think it's just coincidence? I think it's bs *any* kind of plan is required for any hardware.

The collusion to which you refer is certainly criminal. However, do you have any proof of this collusion? When you are going to start making criminal accusations, shouldn't you provide some proof beyond mere speculation? Without any proof, you start to sound like a conspiracy nut.

Hey, I'm all in favor of prosecuting criminal behavior; especially crimes committed by businesses and/or government! However, speculation doesn't qualify as proof.
 
here is the thing....this is just my speculation (you been warned)

if the rumors are true.. about the iphone coming to both Verizon and Sprint. And we know that Apple has made ATT do a lot of things so that apple can get more $$ from the carriers. Verizon and Sprint are both make similar changes.. because apple is making the same demands on both. Upgrades; so that they can keep their value longer. Require more payback from carriers, so carriers need to raise the service fees.

so.. my theory.. is that apple is causing the top 3 carriers too make similar moves/changes.

I agree, partially. I'm not sure that Apple is demanding certain changes by the carriers. However, the carriers may find it in their best financial interested to modify their data fees when they are about to add the iPhone due to the amount of bandwidth usage of the average iPhone user.

Although I am probably switching to Sprint in the near future, I don't like the $10 "premium" fee being applied to 3g smartphones. I don't like it on two levels - it's inconsistent with their current pricing models and it's terribly bad PR.

It seems to me that Sprint will probably have many new smartphone subscribers moving to 4g phones anyway and slowly phasing out the "old" 3g technology. If Sprints wants to avoid having people buy new 3g smarthphones without the "premium" data fee, then why not simply stop selling 3g smartphones? (Either immediately or through a phase-out over a short period of time.)

IMO, Sprints best strategy to compete with Verizon and AT&T is to be a bargain carrier - offering better pricing and competitive phones. Many people, such as me, are happy with the trade off of saving money each month on our service plan and losing some coverage when we are in BFE.

However, if Sprint eliminates the gap in pricing, then Verizon would be the clear winner as their network is superior. I cannot say the same for AT&T since I don't have them and everybody that I know who does hates their coverage.

The pricing gap is still in Sprints favor with the family plans. However, for some individual plans, the gap is much smaller.
 
Wow you guys need to chill. Apparently some people are very offended that we are complaining about the new fee. What ever happened to mature adult debate? According to some people we're suppose to just sit back and keep taking the pounding. What is a forum for if not for information and healthy debate? I think some people have done more bitching about my/our complaining than our actual complaining! What did you really expect to find on a thread about a rate increase? People yahooing?! If you don't want to listen to our complaining then don't do on threads like this...or this forum at all! Sit down like an adult and figure out if all this complaining is worth it for you to come on this forum!

FYI - When I said "some people" I meant MISSJENNELL!!! :)
 
I agree, partially. I'm not sure that Apple is demanding certain changes by the carriers. However, the carriers may find it in their best financial interested to modify their data fees when they are about to add the iPhone due to the amount of bandwidth usage of the average iPhone user.

Although I am probably switching to Sprint in the near future, I don't like the $10 "premium" fee being applied to 3g smartphones. I don't like it on two levels - it's inconsistent with their current pricing models and it's terribly bad PR.

It seems to me that Sprint will probably have many new smartphone subscribers moving to 4g phones anyway and slowly phasing out the "old" 3g technology. If Sprints wants to avoid having people buy new 3g smarthphones without the "premium" data fee, then why not simply stop selling 3g smartphones? (Either immediately or through a phase-out over a short period of time.)

IMO, Sprints best strategy to compete with Verizon and AT&T is to be a bargain carrier - offering better pricing and competitive phones. Many people, such as me, are happy with the trade off of saving money each month on our service plan and losing some coverage when we are in BFE.

However, if Sprint eliminates the gap in pricing, then Verizon would be the clear winner as their network is superior. I cannot say the same for AT&T since I don't have them and everybody that I know who does hates their coverage.

The pricing gap is still in Sprints favor with the family plans. However, for some individual plans, the gap is much smaller.

They tried that for years.. It did not work and they have realize that..

The only way they can compete is to offer Equal or better services and Sprint can not do that by being a bargain carry.

They are to far in debt and need to start generating cash flow to compete.

They need to improve

1 There customer service

2. Coverage- (expand areas served) and beef up current locations

3. Completion of their 4g network

4 Introduce new devices to compete with ATT and Verizon

The only way to do those things is with improved cash flow and by showing a profit.
 
They tried that for years.. It did not work and they have realize that..

The only way they can compete is to offer Equal or better services and Sprint can not do that by being a bargain carry.

They are to far in debt and need to start generating cash flow to compete.

They need to improve

1 There customer service

2. Coverage- (expand areas served) and beef up current locations

3. Completion of their 4g network

4 Introduce new devices to compete with ATT and Verizon

The only way to do those things is with improved cash flow and by showing a profit.

Lets see. Sprint loses 10 million customers in 5 years(2005-mid 2010). They finally gain customers in 2010, then they start mucking around with fees and add ons. Moving away from their "Simple" pricing architecture, and alienating customers be removing key perks for being with Sprint.

1) Does that help #1? Do you think Customers will leave after they have been duped?

2) Will people stay considering they are paying near verizon/att prices for slower speeds.

4) If they dont have an iphone, they are not competing. Both ATT and Verizon have Droid phones and Windows phones and Iphones. Does Sprint have the iphone or a Windows7 phone?
 
They tried that for years.. It did not work and they have realize that..

The only way they can compete is to offer Equal or better services and Sprint can not do that by being a bargain carry.

They are to far in debt and need to start generating cash flow to compete.

They need to improve

1 There customer service

2. Coverage- (expand areas served) and beef up current locations

3. Completion of their 4g network

4 Introduce new devices to compete with ATT and Verizon

The only way to do those things is with improved cash flow and by showing a profit.

He's right, they have tried that for years. Your unlimited texting and data plans are a result of that. People don't seem to care they strongly need to come at the competition with better customer service, a strong lte network and better phones and then they might have a chance but making these drastic announcements one after the other right after their competitors do the same isn't really helping them at all.
 
The above is the problem. I get that they are still cheaper, and that's a good thing. It just seems like now that they have somewhat turned the "customer corner" with gains, they are saying, "ok...let's catch up with the other guys in price now. We can do it as we've got them hooked." I just think that it's a shame. I understand the economics and all, it just seems like we're being taken advantage of on some level, that's all.

but even with the $10 increase, combined with increases by att and verizon...they haven't "caught up". this is what confuses me about these arguments. Unless grandfathered on a current plan with verizon or att...you would pay nearly twice as much there if you were to be walking in off the street and had to choose between the three.

yes they have increased and as they have, more features and benefits have been made available. I have seen an increase in 3g speeds and 4g coverage over the past two months and they are adding more and more towers as we speak. we are talking improvements here.. this isn't even touching the entirely different subject of economic trend. Realistically I wonder if there just ins't anything better to do for some than to go complain about something online. Everything is going up. Get over it, or drop your cell coverage lol


and iphone..really...this discussion is so 2 years ago. the reason you will see all carriers carry the iphone is because it is in fact old news. Apple has recognized that in order for THEM to stay alive they are going to have to offer their products to other carriers. They don't control the market anymore. Just as reports have shown over the past year, Android is gaining the market share. The answer isn't iphones on other carries (though I do give it credit for android being born haha) more iphone owners are jumping ship each day and that isn't going to stop anytime soon
and on that note...this is a prime example of why I stay out of these threads...back to playing with my phone :D
 
Wow you guys need to chill. Apparently some people are very offended that we are complaining about the new fee. What ever happened to mature adult debate? According to some people we're suppose to just sit back and keep taking the pounding. What is a forum for if not for information and healthy debate? I think some people have done more bitching about my/our complaining than our actual complaining! What did you really expect to find on a thread about a rate increase? People yahooing?! If you don't want to listen to our complaining then don't do on threads like this...or this forum at all! Sit down like an adult and figure out if all this complaining is worth it for you to come on this forum!

FYI - When I said "some people" I meant MISSJENNELL!!! :)

Having an opinion on it is one thing. Pissing and moaning like a teenager is another. Which is what most people are doing. Nobody has to pay the $10 fee. Every single person with sprint has options. What people need to do is sit down and figure out those options. Then choose one. It's so amazingly simple yet people don't seem to be able to do it.

FYI- I am pretty sure everyone got that you meant me.
 
Having an opinion on it is one thing. Pissing and moaning like a teenager is another. Which is what most people are doing. Nobody has to pay the $10 fee. Every single person with sprint has options. What people need to do is sit down and figure out those options. Then choose one. It's so amazingly simple yet people don't seem to be able to do it.

FYI- I am pretty sure everyone got that you meant me.

LMAO. Whatever. Keep saying the same thing over and over. I'm done.
 
"it's still cheaper than verizon and at&t"

Jeez sprint customers are really defensive...?

This whole my Carrier business is better than yours is absolutely hilarious.
 
"it's still cheaper than verizon and at&t"

Jeez sprint customers are really defensive...?

This whole my Carrier business is better than yours is absolutely hilarious.

some of it really is crazy..but plain and simple facts are indisputable when you talk strictly plan price

it's not the first time sprint has changed the pricing and structure, and it won't be the last. I have been with them since 99..I am pretty sure I paid $29.99/ month back then. And we walked to the sprint store...uphill both ways...in the snow...through a river of fire.
 
Lets see. Sprint loses 10 million customers in 5 years(2005-mid 2010). They finally gain customers in 2010, then they start mucking around with fees and add ons. Moving away from their "Simple" pricing architecture, and alienating customers be removing key perks for being with Sprint.

1) Does that help #1? Do you think Customers will leave after they have been duped?

Raising prices has nothing to do with customer service.. You are not duped you are aware of the changes before they go into effect and will not change if you stick with what you originally signed up for

2) Will people stay considering they are paying near verizon/att prices for slower speeds.


Yes because Verizon and ATT will continue to raise their prices as well..

4) If they dont have an iphone, they are not competing. Both ATT and Verizon have Droid phones and Windows phones and Iphones. Does Sprint have the iphone or a Windows7 phone?

Windows phone will land soon, and Iphone in more likely hood will come in time.. I think Sooner than later.
 
Fyi... any esn change that puts any smartphone or instinct on the line will result in the $10 fee being implemented unless it is insurance/warranty/repair oriented. Was reading the rules and regs of it. I'd link it, but I'm on the phone at the moment. Also, if you're on a business plan you might be exempt from the $10 charge as well as the phone upgrade policy. Example, my corporate account is classified in the healthcare industry, and thus we're exempt from them along with our rep having some discretion with things in our account. Can't complain there. Sucks for the rest of you shmos though ;-) just kidding.
 
^ I will share this with my neighbor. Their phones are through a healthcare discount....they pay the fee on each phone
 
well they don't pay anything yet. but that's how it was explained to me today. I had an email to that I can't find now that was business related. My trash bin didn't seem to hold much today.
 
WOW!! So from what I have said you think I am a liberal and voted for that douche bag? WOW!!! Is all I can say to that! People who actually know me know that I absolutely stand up for things..... And that I would never say anything good about Obama!
WOW!! You do realize that the maker of Android, a company in liberal Silicon Valley called Google, is a deep blue (as in Democratic) company when you look at their campaign contributions, don't you? In fact, Google employees, combined, constituted Barack Obama's fourth largest contributing group. Guess what those evil evil Google employees do with the money they make from making Android. Oh noes! :D

And oh by the way, most of Sprint's PAC donations? Yup, they go to Democrats. Almost by the exact same ratio that Google's PAC donations also favor Democrats. (See opensecrets.org or look up the actual federal data on FEC.)

Now I'm a liberal, so that's kind of good for me. I support the right companies with my phone choice. :) You on the other hand...
 
^^^ batgeek.. where can I get the next edition of BPAH... i need to go grocery shopping. these a-holes keep changing parties! and me too!
 
WOW!! You do realize that the maker of Android, a company in liberal Silicon Valley called Google, is a deep blue (as in Democratic) company when you look at their campaign contributions, don't you? In fact, Google employees, combined, constituted Barack Obama's fourth largest contributing group. Guess what those evil evil Google employees do with the money they make from making Android. Oh noes! :D

And oh by the way, most of Sprint's PAC donations? Yup, they go to Democrats. Almost by the exact same ratio that Google's PAC donations also favor Democrats. (See opensecrets.org or look up the actual federal data on FEC.)

Now I'm a liberal, so that's kind of good for me. I support the right companies with my phone choice. :) You on the other hand...

I was unaware I have to shop based on political preference.

yeah, i always consult my Business Political Affiliation Handbook when making a consumer purchase!

wth is wrong with you people?!?!?!?!?!!!1!!?!1!!one1!!111

I apparently need to get this so I can shop more politically correct.

^^^ batgeek.. where can I get the next edition of BPAH... i need to go grocery shopping. these a-holes keep changing parties! and me too!

Yeah don't you just hate when they switch on you like that. The book needs to be updated almost daily. Maybe there is an app for that.
 
I apparently need to get this so I can shop more politically correct.
You absolutely do not. Point is, I found it a more than a little funny for people to make it political (I wasn't the one that did that first) and then yell at Obama in an Android forum and its Sprint sub-forum. That's all. Didn't see you complaining then that people were bringing politics in. I'm all for leaving it out and just discussing technology and phone companies here, if only everyone would apply that standard. :)
 
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