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3dEvo: Pre-release miscellany

The comment about the EVO 3D becoming the best selling smartphone this year is slightly questionable.

The Evo3D stands a good chance of being the best selling smartphone on Sprint for sure, locked boot loader or not.

The Galaxy S2 will probably do good volume as well, but the Evo3D will probably steamroll everything else on Sprint this year unless the iPhone4S drops in Q4 which is a big rumor floating around.

Then again, with Sprint getting the Nexus S, Google Voice integration, and Google Wallet integration via Nexus S, the iPhone might be persona non grata
 
The Evo3D stands a good chance of being the best selling smartphone on Sprint for sure, locked boot loader or not.

The Galaxy S2 will probably do good volume as well, but the Evo3D will probably steamroll everything else on Sprint this year unless the iPhone4S drops in Q4 which is a big rumor floating around.

Then again, with Sprint getting the Nexus S, Google Voice integration, and Google Wallet integration via Nexus S, the iPhone might be persona non grata

And its being sold in Europe this year.
 
Huge time lurker of this forum; finally decided to sign up. ha.


I barely noticed I received an email from Sprint yesterday morning about the EVO 3D.

The way the email sounds, it makes you believe it's launching SOON.

EDIT: Then again, I could've received this email a lot later than most people considering it's tabbed 'May 2011'.....and it's already the 26th.
 
Huge time lurker of this forum; finally decided to sign up. ha.


I barely noticed I received an email from Sprint yesterday morning about the EVO 3D.

The way the email sounds, it makes you believe it's launching SOON.

EDIT: Then again, I could've received this email a lot later than most people considering it's tabbed 'May 2011'.....and it's already the 26th.

Welcome to the forums!

I saw someone else post a monthly email for Premier members recently that mentioned the Evo as "coming soon." I'm also Premier status but haven't gotten any emails. So who knows what's up with that.


In response to the other recent posts in the thread:

While I agree that the percentage of people who know what a locked bootloader is small, I make it a point to learn and share the knowledge wherever I can. Over at the lounge section, there are lots of new people asking about general rooting. These are regular people, not techies, who have heard about this "rooting" term associated with Androids and want to find out more. I try to field those questions and educate people on what Android phones are capable of.

Over at the Evo 4G forums, when I first started frequenting the root subforum last summer, the knowledge was very lacking. Most of my post count probably came from helping people root their Evo. Take a look now and you'll see LOTS of people with expert knowledge helping people with rooting. The rooting community for Android has grown a lot over the last year or so, and a lot of these people will move to new devices where they will help a new generation of rooting newbies.

My main mission on these forums is to help people get the most out of their Android devices. I personally derived a ton of enjoyment rooting my phone and exploring the possibilities, and I'd like to enable that enjoyment for others, even if it means they become somewhat of a tech geek in the process ;)
 
Welcome to the forums!

I saw someone else post a monthly email for Premier members recently that mentioned the Evo as "coming soon." I'm also Premier status but haven't gotten any emails. So who knows what's up with that.

I got that email as well, it may have either been yesterday or the day before.
 
Not sure the NFC event would be the appropriate time to announce the evo3d; unless the evo3d has NFC.... (which previous speculations was that it did not; but maybe that has changed?)

Maybe we'll hear something at the google/sprint NFC event tomorrow. I don't see any other better time for Sprint to announce the release date.
 
I saw someone else post a monthly email for Premier members recently that mentioned the Evo as "coming soon." I'm also Premier status but haven't gotten any emails. So who knows what's up with that.

They are very bad at maintaining the Premier email list. I have asked to be added on it 3 times, once by the person who is in charge of the program at an EVO event at Sprint HQ last fall. I got emails for 2 months after that and nothing since then. I've called to be added back on and even talked to the Premier team on the phone, and still nothing. So don't feel like you are the only one being left out.
 
Expect the timeline of releases to look like so...

April: Kyocera Echo
May: Google Nexus
June: HTC Evo3D & Evo View
July: Motorola Photon, 4G XOOM
August: Samsung Within (GS2)
This is what I've been expecting as well.... It's like a puzzle; Once you figure out one or two pieces the rest just kind of make sense.
 
Hardcore techies and wannabe techies have an inflated sense of self worth.

I've been doing some training with another unit the last month. In my platoon everyone had an android phone and there was only one iPhone.

How many users had Google Voice other than me? Zero

How many had Google Talk other than me? Zero

Beyond texting, email, surfing and phone calls, there wasn't anything even remotely close to being concerned about rooting, boot loaders, or whatever some people on this forum regard as important. If I were to mention Froyo or Gingerbread they would think I was referring to chow.

That's the market. Anyone that thinks otherwise is flat out wrong. Prime example? The iPhone.
People keep saying the rooting community is so small and insignificant that HTC simply doesn't care. There is absolutely no factual basis behind that sentiment. If the rooting community was so small and insignificant, then there is no way HTC would have spent the time and money on locking down millions of phones. And there is certainly no way HTC would have issued a statement that they are reviewing their bootloader policy less than 8 hours after we first learned about their policy. The facts all say it is not such a small and insignificant group. Just because YOU don't know anyone who roots, doesn't mean the rest of us don't know anyone who roots. I personally know several people who root. In fact, out of everyone I know with an Android phone, there are only a few who don't root anymore.

I almost caught a beat down in the Sprint Users forum for talking like you. I agree with everyone stating that a vast majority of HTC EVO 4G buyers do not know about rooting and custom ROMS. I also believe people on forums who are "tech nerds" do become full of themselves and think cell phone carriers and manufacturers revolve around their wants.

The comment about the EVO 3D becoming the best selling smartphone this year is slightly questionable. However, I didn't want to upgrade my EVO 4G to an EVO 3D at first, but I can't stop myself. Once word gets spread around about the EVO 3D I think the phone isn't going to be able to stay on the shelves. And individuals looking to switch from iPhone will give the EVO 3D second and third looks due to the late release of the iPhone 4S.

Someone from another forum said there was 3 million EVO 4Gs sold. Don't know if that's true or not. But BlackDynamite you must account for the fact that the EVO 3D will be sold in Europe and Japan so the EVO 3D could outsell the EVO 4G.
If you think the Evo 3D is going to outsell the Evo 4G, you're crazy. Sprint themselves said they don't expect it to sell like the Evo 4G. Heck, they are releasing it right after the Echo (admittedly not a great phone) and announcing the Photon around the same time. Not to mention we have a Nexus S, and soon will have a Galaxy S 2.

There is just no way the Evo 3D will shatter the sales records set by the Evo 3D. Especially now that the most hardcore users who were the most excited about it (the same ones who got all their friends to buy the Evo 4G last year) are all on the verge of boycotting HTC.
 
People keep saying the rooting community is so small and insignificant that HTC simply doesn't care. There is absolutely no factual basis behind that sentiment. If the rooting community was so small and insignificant, then there is no way HTC would have spent the time and money on locking down millions of phones. And there is certainly no way HTC would have issued a statement that they are reviewing their bootloader policy less than 8 hours after we first learned about their policy. The facts all say it is not such a small and insignificant group. Just because YOU don't know anyone who roots, doesn't mean the rest of us don't know anyone who roots. I personally know several people who root. In fact, out of everyone I know with an Android phone, there are only a few who don't root anymore.

If you think the Evo 3D is going to outsell the Evo 4G, you're crazy. Sprint themselves said they don't expect it to sell like the Evo 4G. Heck, they are releasing it right after the Echo (admittedly not a great phone) and announcing the Photon around the same time. Not to mention we have a Nexus S, and soon will have a Galaxy S 2.

There is just no way the Evo 3D will shatter the sales records set by the Evo 3D. Especially now that the most hardcore users who were the most excited about it (the same ones who got all their friends to buy the Evo 4G last year) are all on the verge of boycotting HTC.

Let's just move on before someone get's in trouble.

How about this weather?
 
Let's just move on before someone get's in trouble.

How about this weather?
I saw your comment before you edited it. Let me just say that my opinion is based in facts. I listed several facts that helped me form my opinion. Your opinion seems to be based on nothing except a gut feeling.

Everyone has an opinion, but all opinions are not equal.
 
I saw your comment before you edited it. Let me just say that my opinion is based in facts. I listed several facts that helped me form my opinion. Your opinion seems to be based on nothing except a gut feeling.

Everyone has an opinion, but all opinions are not equal.

Yes sir, what ever you say, you know it all.


Back to talking about anything other than opinions being equal

does anyone know if the google thing that is starting now is being live streamed anywhere?
 
The original Evo had a unique release. Nobody was expecting a phone like that and when it hit... wow... It was ahead of it's time.

I don't think we'll see a rush to buy a phone like that again for a long time. There is just too much competition now for a single phone to shine that brightly; in my opinion.
 
The original Evo had a unique release. Nobody was expecting a phone like that and when it hit... wow... It was ahead of it's time.

I don't think we'll see a rush to buy a phone like that again for a long time. There is just too much competition now for a single phone to shine that brightly; in my opinion.


Agree.

At the time the Evo was well above all other phones on the market.

Today, when the Evo 3D is released besides the 3D, there will be other phones very similiar available.
 
The original Evo had a unique release. Nobody was expecting a phone like that and when it hit... wow... It was ahead of it's time.

I don't think we'll see a rush to buy a phone like that again for a long time. There is just too much competition now for a single phone to shine that brightly; in my opinion.

Agree.

At the time the Evo was well above all other phones on the market.

Today, when the Evo 3D is released besides the 3D, there will be other phones very similiar available.


Wait, wait, wait... How did so many casual users know the Evo was so far ahead of other phones?

By the way, I agree with you guys.
 
So you think they only care about it if the majority of people threaten to leave? You're crazy. A few thousand of your best customers threatening to leave would make ANY company take notice. It doesn't matter if they have several thousand more customers or not. The fact of the matter is they want to keep as many customers as possible.

I'm just saying that they won't invest a lot of time into appeasing a small group if the majority is still buying the device. IOW, they won't stop Sprint Business just to focus on appeasing a handful of people. Of course, any lost sale is not wanted, but question really is how much time they put into fixing it and is it worth it in the big picture, as far as they're concerned.

Locked bootloaders are happening all over the place, not just Sprint, so do YOU really think that's going to be their main priority?
 
I'm just saying that they won't invest a lot of time into appeasing a small group if the majority is still buying the device. IOW, they won't stop Sprint Business just to focus on appeasing a handful of people. Of course, any lost sale is not wanted, but question really is how much time they put into fixing it and is it worth it in the big picture, as far as they're concerned.

Locked bootloaders are happening all over the place, not just Sprint, so do YOU really think that's going to be their main priority?
I don't know if it will be their MAIN priority, but it is certainly an issue they want to address.

And honestly, I don't know what all HTC has going on at the moment, but the way their facebook page is getting lit up for the past few days, and the way HTC keeps tweeting out that they are reviewing their bootloader policy, it may very well be the main priority right now.
 
IMO, it would be quite silly of Sprint to not gear the EVO 3D around WWDC. You never know what Apple is going to do--if the phone is ready, I would think the June 3/4 release would be best to entice those on the fence considering switching from the iPhone.

Personally, Jobs could get on the stage and announce the iPhone 4G w/OS 5 for free to be released at the end of June, and I would still be jumping ship to Android. Why? I've been with the iPhone since it's release, and I know any updates to the OS will be small and incremental. You can be 100% certain that iOS 5 won't have an active lock screen with widgets.

That being said, I'm certain I am in the minority of people when it comes to this thought process, and, back to the original point, Sprint could take quite a few AT&T customers simply by releasing the 3D prior to the opening conference at WWDC on June 6th. To not do so would be a huge missed opportunity.

Of course, since Sprint has yet to officially announce anything, the chances are slim we will see an early June release.

Also, I signed up for updates on the 3D as soon as the Sprint page went live, and have yet to receive any emails.
 
What's it like having to look down from your high horse on us mortals? I bet its frustrating being perfect in an imperfect world...

Also, your "facts" were just opinions too...

You mean it's not a fact that the Echo and Nexus are for sale right now, the Photon is about to be announced, and the Galaxy S 2 is rumored to be sometime this summer as well?

Sorry man, but those are facts. And they all point to the forming of my opinion: the Evo 3D will NOT sell as well as the Evo 4G did.

Like I said, if you have a "gut feeling" about something, and someone else has an opinion based on a bunch of facts, it may be true that they are both opinions, but they are certainly not equal.
 
Actually, now that I think about it, I think it's your opinion that those two opinions are not equal.

No one knows the future. Any of you could be right or wrong, but the point I'd add for the sake of thread-sanity: haven't any of you found that you've turned out right - but for entirely the wrong reasons than you thought? Or, turned out your predictions were right, but not for the reasons you thought?

In general, analysis tops _unfounded_ opinion. However, once it crosses over into opinion, it's just that.

I know chicks who do incredibly well at fantasy football going by horoscopes, team colors and how a quarterback's hair looked in the last ET! show and beat a lot of guys.

Speaking of beating, the superior opinion horse is kinda dead, I killed it. ;)

PS - Ninja'd by novox77! Cool. :D :D
 
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