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3dEvo: Pre-release miscellany

CanDMan said:
There is the NFC SD card that is being worked on and Google also mentioned a sticker that can be placed on the phone. The difference being an added layer of security for a device that has the chip built in. Not sure how that would work with the SD card. The sticker wouldn't have the security option as I believe it's primarily software based in a built in device, you have to grant it permission to activate it. Might be possible to do the same with the SD card type, but not the sticker type.
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jerofld said:
If it had NFC, I suspect it would be talked about by the people demoing it. Like that one video of the lady who was talking about all the things that Sense 3.0 does. NFC isn't some techy spec sheet glitter, like dual core, internal memory, RAM and whatnot. That's a functionality that the estimated 90% of buyers who don't care to tweak their phones or push them to the limit would care about.
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I'd stopped posting on this, but it's finally back in the news.

No NFC? No Problem! Thanks to SD Cards Equipped With NFC Transmitters

For NFC to really work, they need to path to get to legacy phones, imo. Sounds like the 3vo will be legacy out of the gate.
 
EarlyMon said:
I'd stopped posting on this, but it's finally back in the news.

No NFC? No Problem! Thanks to SD Cards Equipped With NFC Transmitters

For NFC to really work, they need to path to get to legacy phones, imo. Sounds like the 3vo will be legacy out of the gate.
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Cool article. Articles like these will continue to pop up even more as NFC becomes more prevalent. I hope that there isn't a fly in the ointment. It mentioned that the microSD slot needs to be plastic. I remember that the Evo 3D has a metal slot that partially covers the chip. Maybe the article is speaking more about chip slots that entirely encapsulated the chip in metal?
 
What do you have to sacrifice to get this NFC SD card, though? Because, as we all know, there is no such thing as a free lunch. The article does not mention how much space is on the SD card for storage, if any storage is even possible. If it is not capable of even holding 2 gigs, it is completely ineffective. Realistically, they would need at least 4 gigs.

Then there's the price. How expensive will it be?
 
jerofld said:
What do you have to sacrifice to get this NFC SD card, though? Because, as we all know, there is no such thing as a free lunch. The article does not mention how much space is on the SD card for storage, if any storage is even possible. If it is not capable of even holding 2 gigs, it is completely ineffective. Realistically, they would need at least 4 gigs.

Then there's the price. How expensive will it be?
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Here is the Engadget post on this, I haven't watched either of the video's but there is more text on it. It also says that it has 8gb of storage

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/netcom-shows-off-microsd-card-with-integrated-nfc-goodness-vide/
 
PyroSporker said:
Cool article. Articles like these will continue to pop up even more as NFC becomes more prevalent. I hope that there isn't a fly in the ointment. It mentioned that the microSD slot needs to be plastic. I remember that the Evo 3D has a metal slot that partially covers the chip. Maybe the article is speaking more about chip slots that entirely encapsulated the chip in metal?
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Excellent point, great question.

To clarify - the issue here is that being surrounded by metal would shield the NFC signal (so it couldn't get through).

How much metal would it take to screw up that signal?? :confused: Guess we'll have to wait to see.
 
EarlyMon said:
Excellent point, great question.

To clarify - the issue here is that being surrounded by metal would shield the NFC signal (so it couldn't get through).

How much metal would it take to screw up that signal?? :confused: Guess we'll have to wait to see.
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Yeah, the issue was pretty apparent. My question was more rhetorical than anything. We will have to wait and see for sure.


You know how some phones use the rear battery cover as an antenna extension. They are equipped with those 2 little metal contact points. I wonder if that could/will interfere with the NFC transmission. Not necessarily the metal parts but the signals might interfere?

Here is an idea, figure out a way to have the NFC chip signal utilize an antenna like those built into a battery door and increase the receptivity (obviously we don't want to broadcast to the world or cease being near filed communication, but make it so you don't have to be EXACT when you try to scan it). Or how about certain phones with those antenna contacts on the battery door could buy a replacement battery door with an embedded NFC chip in it that interfaces when the battery door is installed and the contacts are meeting properly.
 
The problem with connecting the antenna to the door is that if the door pops off suddenly, you risk breaking the antenna. It might just be easier to have the antenna wrap around in the interior of the battery compartment, like on the bezel around the battery. Just have some ESD tape included or some light adhesive to make it stick. Probably about 1/2 inch of the wire would have to be insulated so it wouldn't contact the metal cage and protect it from the battery.
 
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PyroSporker said:
Yeah, the issue was pretty apparent. My question was more rhetorical than anything. We will have to wait and see for sure.
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But maybe not apparent to all of our lurkers, hence my re-statement of what you said - sometimes the exact same thing said two ways helps clarify. ;)


You know how some phones use the rear battery cover as an antenna extension. They are equipped with those 2 little metal contact points. I wonder if that could/will interfere with the NFC transmission. Not necessarily the metal parts but the signals might interfere?
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With all of the radio frequencies swirling about in any cell phone (from the motherboard itself, wifi, 3G, BT, etc etc) I'm often amazed they work at all! :p Pretty good engineering.

If they didn't figure out interference issues for NFC frequency before going down this path, it's going to be an epic fail, imo.
 
Djblue11 said:
Htc's looking to make this phone as open as possible with their new website.
HTCDev.com

Also a new color of the Evo 3d can be seen on the site but i'll post it here for you guys.
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Wow, the all black makes this look like a totally different phone
 
Emmexx said:
Not at the one in my home town, anyway. I have a pre-order in at Best Buy still, but may use this store, buy the EVO 4G when pre-order is available here then pay the $35 restock fee when the E3D comes out. I'd still be $90 ahead of the game.
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Just so you're aware, if you purchased the Evo 4G at Best Buy and returned it there within the 30 day window, Best Buy DOESN'T charge any restocking fee. If you buy a phone directly from Sprint and return it within 30 days, you are subject to a $35 restocking fee. But Best Buy doesn't charge you any restocking fee :)

I returned my Evo 4G a couple months ago when I found out about the Evo 3D, and didn't have to pay any restocking fee at Best Buy.
 
BenChase7 said:
not sure... discussed here: http://androidforums.com/sprint/346095-port-credit-need-strategy-evo-3d-new-line-credit.html

I would buy a phone from Sprint (maybe nexus s 4g or EVO 4g) on or around the 20th, and then get your port in credit application in, then when the EVO 3D comes out... exchange.
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I would verify to make sure that the port in credit promotion is only valid if you buy the phone directly from Sprint. If that is the case, then your only choice is to buy from Sprint as mentioned above, then return and get the 3D. Only problem with this approach is you have to pay a $35 restocking fee on your return.

If however the port in credit promotion were ALSO valid at Best Buy and Radio Shack, I'd get your phone there. When you return a phone to BB or RS you don't pay ANY restocking fee.
 
yourfriendmat said:
The date on the phone says June 24 :-)
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I'm leaning towards us getting the phone before then however. That's the European version and I'm pretty sure we will be getting it before them. Especially considering HTC hasn't officially announced one for Europe yet, just the sensation.
 
RichboyJhae said:
I'm leaning towards us getting the phone before then however. That's the European version and I'm pretty sure we will be getting it before them. Especially considering HTC hasn't officially announced one for Europe yet, just the sensation.
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While it's certainly possible we'll see the Evo 3D before the 24th, a lot of info from multiple sources is all pointing towards a release on June 24th, not prior. This isn't to say it will for sure be released that day and not before or later, but the 24th is the best info for a release that we've got to date.

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/305558-release-date-looking-like-june-24-a-18.html
 
RichboyJhae said:
I'm leaning towards us getting the phone before then however. That's the European version and I'm pretty sure we will be getting it before them. Especially considering HTC hasn't officially announced one for Europe yet, just the sensation.
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I was under the impression that the European/GSM version had gold/yellow trim. Red inferring CDMA. But the trim was on the removable plate / battery cover / whatever-you-want-to-call-it-today, so judging what version it is due to it's trim is pointless because it could be replaced/customized. Besides, that one has no trim.
 
novox77 said:
observant ppl are awesome :)

more open to dev? i think the number 1 thing they can do is release their source code to the kernel.
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Also notice the different camera button and 2D/3D switch... Is this a world phone version or something? They aren't chromed, the camera button isn't circular, and the 2D/3D switch has a little bump in the middle like other slider switches I've seen. Weird...

PS It would really be nice to see a video of this phone to tell the differences :p
 
Lol is the EVO 3D running stock android? And if that footage is being taken by the EVO 3D I'm impressed. Zero studdering on the playback.
 
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