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Root Controversy on various roms

Maybe that is shallow or even selfish, but that's how I feel.

You are absolutely in the right. And no, you're not selfish. It's all about, in this case, making your phone work the way you want it to work. If this means using a ROM by a potentially unpopular developer, then so be it.

The ROM I use is incredibly basic. I've even had one user here telling me that "the ZIP you call a ROM is nothing more than a waste of space." I've made it no secret that I am a mere hack compared to the better developers, but I have made something that appeals to my needs on a phone (since no other ROM did what I wanted), and if a few other people like it, then so be it.
 
I'm using Stock Kingdom Gingersense 3.0 Rls1.1 and it works pretty good. This rom is for the htc evo 4g because when I went to settings to see the model number it says HTC Evo 4G and not HTC Incredible. I haven't had any problems with it. One thing for sure...I am loving the new Sense.
 
I am a real fan of the development community here.
After trying one or two new roms each week on my Incredible, I have
finally settled on OMGB1112. I used 7-zip to remove apk's of things I
don't use.
After the first boot of OMGB, it has been my daily driver.
Never reboots, very fast, takes the apps I like from Market, and is easy
on the battery. Also very customizable. Wallpapers are easy on the eye
and everything works.
That's the main thing: everything works.
 
I am a real fan of the development community here.
After trying one or two new roms each week on my Incredible, I have
finally settled on OMGB1112. I used 7-zip to remove apk's of things I
don't use.
After the first boot of OMGB, it has been my daily driver.
Never reboots, very fast, takes the apps I like from Market, and is easy
on the battery. Also very customizable. Wallpapers are easy on the eye
and everything works.
That's the main thing: everything works.
What browser are you using and are you having any problems going to the google website. Switching over to the gingersense rom my phone exits the browser whenever i try to go to the google website. I am using Dolphin HD Browser.
 
Hey: Am using the browser that's loaded with OMGB112.
I use all the Google apps, especially Maps and the lady saying
turn by turn directions, YouTube, Street View, etc. with no hiccups.
You can re-set Market by going into settings, applications, manage
applications, and do a Force Stop and clear cache. That might help
if you've not already done.
 
well i tried out what michaelbsheldo said to do and it worked. Another thing i noticed is that this rom takes away the visual voicemail icon. I cant find it anywhere on the phone so i restore my phone back to virtuous 3.2. If I can find a way to get visual voicemail working with this rom I'll keep because I like the new sense ui.
 
well i tried out what michaelbsheldo said to do and it worked. Another thing i noticed is that this rom takes away the visual voicemail icon. I cant find it anywhere on the phone so i restore my phone back to virtuous 3.2. If I can find a way to get visual voicemail working with this rom I'll keep because I like the new sense ui.

You should be able to download the Verizon VVM from the Verizon tab in the Android Market, if I remember correctly.
 
You should be able to download the Verizon VVM from the Verizon tab in the Android Market, if I remember correctly.
I just checked the verizon tab on the market and it's not there.:confused:

Update: It's in the market...just type it in the seach link in the market or log into your verizon account and download it from verizon's app store.
 
Search market enabler to get Verizon tab back on market

Hypothetical : if a developer steals other people's work and fiscally benefits from it, would you be happy "supporting " that dev?

CM took the offending wallpaper off. They took a lot more heat for removing it than for putting it in but they did leave it out in The end.

Anyway. Just a few random thoughts. Everyone have a wonderful day
 
Search market enabler to get Verizon tab back on market

Hypothetical : if a developer steals other people's work and fiscally benefits from it, would you be happy "supporting " that dev?

Don't all developers who start with the stock rom do exactly that?
Or when 3rd party developers reverse-engineer Sense, and change it up?
Or if you want to talk ethics, ever downloaded AdFree?

CM took the offending wallpaper off.
When? I just downloaded CM7 (stable version) a week or two ago and it was on there.

They took a lot more heat for removing it than for putting it in but they did leave it out in The end.
Why? It's not like anyone who wants it can't do a quick google search and put it right back on their phone.

Can you uninstall ADW from the CM7 rom?
 
Don't all developers who start with the stock rom do exactly that?
Or when 3rd party developers reverse-engineer Sense, and change it up?
Or if you want to talk ethics, ever downloaded AdFree?

Nope. From what I understand, the author of OMGB blatantly used Cyanogen's work for almost the entire ROM, and then took full credit for it. In my thread, I give credit to HTC for the software, to the person who gave me the base ROM, even to the guy who wrote the software that I use for the ROM. Most developers do this. But the OMGB developer, from what I understand (and I could be wrong), took the GB build that the Cyanogen team compiled, and then claimed that HE was the one who compiled it.
 
Nope. From what I understand, the author of OMGB blatantly used Cyanogen's work for almost the entire ROM, and then took full credit for it. In my thread, I give credit to HTC for the software, to the person who gave me the base ROM, even to the guy who wrote the software that I use for the ROM. Most developers do this. But the OMGB developer, from what I understand (and I could be wrong), took the GB build that the Cyanogen team compiled, and then claimed that HE was the one who compiled it.

I agree that is wrong.

But from what I can tell, at least XDA is over it. They list OMGB and OMFGB on their main ROM list, in the same category as CM7. That legitimizes it to me. And as a newb, you'd never know anything was controversial at all, just browsing XDA's forum for roms.

Whatever happened, he has obviously made some ammends, because not only did they allow him back on their forums, but even allowed him to distribute his roms on their forums. And you don't have to dig for it, they've placed it on the main list of roms for the Incredible.

Some people want to hold grudges for a long time, and some would rather forgive and move on.

But again, I don't see how any of that involves me. Or why I should not use one of his roms.
 
Nope. From what I understand, the author of OMGB blatantly used Cyanogen's work for almost the entire ROM, and then took full credit for it. In my thread, I give credit to HTC for the software, to the person who gave me the base ROM, even to the guy who wrote the software that I use for the ROM. Most developers do this. But the OMGB developer, from what I understand (and I could be wrong), took the GB build that the Cyanogen team compiled, and then claimed that HE was the one who compiled it.

that is extley what happened and that is why i wont use his roms or any other mods ever again
 
seems like a lot of people took it more personal than koush himself did... his roms are still listed in rom manager...
 
Or if you want to talk ethics, ever downloaded AdFree?


When? I just downloaded CM7 (stable version) a week or two ago and it was on there.


Can you uninstall ADW from the CM7 rom?

As for ethics, I did download adfree but removed it after reading more about it. It was an ethical decision to remove it. I also don't use wireless tether either.

The wallpaper was removed a while ago. Not sure how you still got it.

You should be able to remove adw. I think I used to just freeze it. Don't remember.

I knew a kid in college who got suspended for plagerism the week before graduation for not giving credit for ideas and information. I think it is critical to always credit those who do the work.
 
Nope. From what I understand, the author of OMGB blatantly used Cyanogen's work for almost the entire ROM, and then took full credit for it. In my thread, I give credit to HTC for the software, to the person who gave me the base ROM, even to the guy who wrote the software that I use for the ROM. Most developers do this. But the OMGB developer, from what I understand (and I could be wrong), took the GB build that the Cyanogen team compiled, and then claimed that HE was the one who compiled it.

If that was the case in the past (I am assuming it was) it is definitely not the case now. On his site, he gives Cyanogenmod tons of credit, and says flat out that if it weren't for CM, none of the AOSP Gingerbread roms would work at all. And he lists everything he took from CM, and from other sources.

I did a nand backup and tried out CM7 all day today, the last stable build, not the current nightly. And I thought it had some things going for it, but at the end of the day, the only things it offered me that I didn't already have with OMGB (not OMFGB mind you, just OMGB) were things I didn't need, and they were buggy on top of that.

For example, I thought the trackball wake was a nice addition, especially when my Inc is in my car mount, and I can't reach the top button without taking it out. But it only worked part of the time I tried it. And then I disabled it, and it still worked. Buggy. There were a couple of other buggy things, like scrolling didn't work a couple of times, so I had to lock and unlock a couple of times before it started working again. Way too buggy for me. And OMFGB might be the same way. I can't say because I haven't tried it. But OMGB is rock-solid. The only problem I've found with OMGB after using it for months, is that sometimes the computer doesn't recognize it when I plug it in via USB, but generally if I wait a second before clicking the turn on usb drive option, it will work fine. That's it. The only bug I can find. That is impressive.

And another thing, I really dislike ADW. I even gave it a fair chance today, and tried to get used to it. And I made it work for me, enough that at the end of the day I could really say, ok, I can use CM7 as my daily driver. But I didn't want to. Why did they include ADW and make it where it can't be uninstalled? Why not just use the stock Android launcher, and let people install whatever they want, or just use it stock if they prefer?

I did notice they removed the offensive wallpaper, and I applaud them for that. But with that issue out of the way, I still just think OMGB is a much more solid rom than CM7.

I even tried Kingdom_Sense just for fun before I restored my OMGB rom. And I didn't see what the big deal was. But then, I have detached myself from Sense over the last few months, and I don't miss it. I don't think it can compare with Vanilla Android running LauncherPro+, but that is my personal opinion. The only thing I really like about Sense is the dialer, but I have the paid version of RocketDial and it does pretty much the same thing.


So, I think R2 has made amends for all if any offense he might've needed to make amends for, and given credit where credit is due.
So now that the moral issue is put to bed. I can compare rom to rom, and OMGB wins by a landslide as far as I am concerned.


This is straight from OMGB's site, where credit is given to CM among others:





Cyanogenmod – Without CyanogenMod, just about all the AOSP roms would run like shit. His contributions to the AOSP scene have been invaluable, heres short list of things we have used from CM
  • qcom libs
  • camera libs
  • stagefright hacks
  • v8 libs
  • wimax
  • hmdi
  • fm radio
  • volume keys as music controls
  • etc, etc (working on more extensive list)

Let's not hold a grudge people.
He has given credit where it's due. XDA has let him back on their forums, and even put his roms on their main rom thread. Let's let bygones be bygones, and judge the man based not on the color of his past, but on the content of his rom. :-)


And whether it's your personal preference or not, anyone who has used OMGB has got to admit that it's one rock-solid AOSP Gingerbread rom.
 
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