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Root [CDMA] question about wiping..
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themuffinman75
Android Enthusiast
I haven't used vr super wipe but yeah when flashing a different rom its always a good thing to do a full wipe(saves on potential headaches), if its an updated rom from the same chef then a full wipe is not always necessary(unless the rom is a major overhaul) but you still want to wipe cache and dalvik.
wase4711
Android Expert
yeah, I noticed the team win recovery has built in wiping options, so no 3rd party program is needed, I assume
thanks
themuffinman75
Android Enthusiast
The other recoveries on the OG evo(amonra,clockwork) had wiping options as well but you had to do each one separetely and then you needed to do it a couple of times to make sure versus superwipe taking all those steps and turning into one step basically.
Trying to grasp this...
I've rooted. I've made backup of apps and data with Titanium. Do I just leave that backup on my SD? Should I back up my backup to my PC?
I want to start playing with more customization, but want my ducks all in a row first.
Ultimately want to try a custom ROM (suggestions?). But first thought I would just remove bloatware. Should I run another backup with the bloat removed?
Thx
I've rooted. I've made backup of apps and data with Titanium. Do I just leave that backup on my SD? Should I back up my backup to my PC?
I want to start playing with more customization, but want my ducks all in a row first.
Ultimately want to try a custom ROM (suggestions?). But first thought I would just remove bloatware. Should I run another backup with the bloat removed?
Thx
wase4711
Android Expert
Trying to grasp this...
I've rooted. I've made backup of apps and data with Titanium. Do I just leave that backup on my SD? Should I back up my backup to my PC?
I want to start playing with more customization, but want my ducks all in a row first.
Ultimately want to try a custom ROM (suggestions?). But first thought I would just remove bloatware. Should I run another backup with the bloat removed?
Thx
You can never have too many backups, IMO
if you have room on your hard drive to store them , then do it
I usually back up my ENTIRE SD card, at least twice a month, just in case..
How ever you run your back up is how it will restore, so if you remove bloatware and back up, thats how it will restore if you need to
you can always back up your titanium back up to your drop box account as well as anywhere else..
There is a tool for the 3D. It's called superwipe. Imagine that.
[TOOL]SuperWipe for the Evo 3D [08-06-11] - xda-developers
[TOOL]SuperWipe for the Evo 3D [08-06-11] - xda-developers
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
according to the site, it formats /boot, /system, /data, and /cache.
These "format-all" zips are just for peace of mind. When you flash a ROM, the entire /boot and /system partition is overwritten, so formatting them beforehand really isn't necessary. Nothing is going to be orphaned, nor will the presence of data affect the integrity of the new data.
/data and /cache are formatted when you do a factory data reset, either with Android (in Settings), or via recovery. Not formatting these partitions is the cause of most problems. So, if you want a problem-free transition to a new ROM, just do a factory data reset after you flash the ROM. You'll be starting with a clean slate: new kernel and OS (/boot and /system) with no /data and nothing in /cache.
Some of these format .zips even formats the same partitions over and over again, as if things don't get cleaned out the first time. It's pretty stupid. Yet some people swear by it.
Kinda like throwing salt over your shoulder.
That's still pretty common over in the epic forums. I always laugh when I see a "dev" tell people to wipe cache 3 times and data 5... You're right though, people swear by it.
For installing new ROMs, it is pretty rediculous. I always thought it was a practical joke. But maybe those devs are the paranoid type that get those untracable file deleting programs that flip the binary code 1000's of times to ensure no one can go back through and "un-delete" their stuff
I think that sloppy installations and packages by devs - and certainly by HTC/Sprint OTAs even - can leave things so confused that people have taken to nuking their devices clear.
Until I ever see a file inode issue or a cache issue to make me eat these words, I'll stick with the factory data reset, it covers the map nicely.
If you cannot trust your silicon to accept the ones and zeros on the first wipe then you have bigger issues that which wipe method to use.
I have had recovery wipes fail somehow - but never a factory reset.
Until I ever see a file inode issue or a cache issue to make me eat these words, I'll stick with the factory data reset, it covers the map nicely.
If you cannot trust your silicon to accept the ones and zeros on the first wipe then you have bigger issues that which wipe method to use.
I have had recovery wipes fail somehow - but never a factory reset.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
no kidding. last I checked, computers never forget to carry the 1, figuratively speaking.
So your procedure is to do a factory reset AFTER your flash a ROM? I always boot into recovery, wipe factory data then wipe dalvik. I then flash my rom and let it reboot. Honestly I never had any major issues except for a couple of bad flashes. I tried VR superwipe for a while just, as you said, peace of mind to make sure I didn't forget something, but I never did the Factory AFTER a ROM install. Should I be doing it before AND after or just after? I always did it before so I had a clean slate for the ROM to install onto..
That's a good strategy so long as the rom chef makes no mistakes.
Factory reset after flash has worked for me.
Factory reset after flash has worked for me.
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
To be perfectly honest, when I go from Sense to Sense, or AOSP to AOSP, I never wipe anything. I see what happens first. If I end up in a boot loop, then I battery pull, go back to recovery and do a full wipe, then flash again. There's no need to fear if you can boot to recovery and if you've been good about doing NANDroid backups.
I've also gone from Sense to AOSP and vice versa without wiping. It almost always breaks, so I don't bother testing if I can get away with it. I just wipe.
As for before or after, I've typically stuck with after because of my methodology above. Sometimes if I get stuck in a boot loop and I do a full wipe, I'll try to boot again instead of reflashing. Most of the time, problem is fixed.
The emphasis on wiping very cleanly is for people who might not know how to recover from a boot loop. Best to prevent it from the outset. But if you're comfortable with using recovery to "recover" your phone, you can be laid back about wiping.
Also, for the record, when I flash a custom kernel over a ROM, I never wipe. And so far, I've never seen any ill effects. If there were, I see no reason why I can't wipe cache after the fact.