Gingerbread 2.3 was here, then gone, now it's back

[undergone]

has anyone had an issue with the rom yet? thinking of flashing it when I get home... that or back to cyanogen.

 

[swindelljd]

Only thing I noticed so far: the wifi doesn't stay connected when the screen turns off but it reconnects quickly once you fire it up. I'm ok with that as long as my podcasts get the chance to download over wifi.

That's been happening to me on Froyo for a couple of months so I don't think it was introduced with GB.

 

[RawlingsSc]

The games that I still have are on my SD card. The ones that are missing are the ones that were on my internal memory. They aren't on my app drawer at all. I am just redownloading all those apps and it seems my savefile is still there.

EDIT: Now I have another problem it says I am running on low memory. While I have 400MB left for apps.

Sorry my answer didn't help. Hope you can work it all out.

 

[varkie]

It's from a leak. Somebody gave it to the dev who released it on condition that he releases it as a rom and nothing else (no stripping out the radio or releasing it as an RUU).
That usually happens with updates, and I'm 95% certain it's always done by the carrier/OEM. Let the people who are willing to void their warranty and do their own tech support distribute it themselves, saving bandwidth for people who aren't into DIY. It also acts as a large scale beta test, with a particularly great testing group since the earliest people to install it are probably the users most capable of identifying problems. WIN/WIN/WIN/WIN. There is basically no downside for anybody in this, since the software that gets leaked is basically the same that gets pushed on everybody's phone (hence they aren't losing control of proprietary code).

With the Eris last year the 2.0 leaks, 3 in total I believe, were eventually all atrributed to an HTC tech.

 

[sdrawkcab25]

This is completely false.

you can't say that for a fact. you even said yourself, you don't work in the development department.

Verizon leaking the updates makes plenty of sense, whether or not everyone in the company knows about it.


htc could also be leaking them, could be the reason there is no new bloatware.

 

[Evan2ac]

you can't say that for a fact. you even said yourself, you don't work in the development department.

Verizon leaking the updates makes plenty of sense, whether or not everyone in the company knows about it.


htc could also be leaking them, could be the reason there is no new bloatware.

I am sorry sir but again that is simply false. Verizon has a development team far more advanced than a few beginner developers on XDA website that play with ROMs and as you can see the ROMs that come out of the XDA website are always buggy and unstable with lack of features. It is required to have a deep understanding in the core fundamentals to produce a good ROM and this is why stock ROMs for the Incredible have always been superior to any 3rd party homebrew.

 

[Scrops]

...

FWIW, I somehow rid myself of the low space bug by no longer using the HTC mail app, and deleting the .android_secure directory on my SD card, rebooting and reinstalling apps. I did it weeks ago and never had a recurrence of the problem. Hope the info is worthwhile to someone.

 

[sdrawkcab25]

I am sorry sir but again that is simply false. Verizon has a development team far more advanced than a few beginner developers on XDA website that play with ROMs and as you can see the ROMs that come out of the XDA website are always buggy and unstable with lack of features. It is required to have a deep understanding in the core fundamentals to produce a good ROM and this is why stock ROMs for the Incredible have always been superior to any 3rd party homebrew.

that is completely false, the roms that come out of xda are extremely more stable than official verizon releases and have MORE features, and everyone who installs them properly always notices how much "snappier" they are, myself included.

plus we aren't talking about homebrewed roms, the rom in question is an official rom SIGNED by htc, so obviously SOMEONE leaked it.

 

[MolBasser]

It was prolly an HTC person that leaked it.

MolBasser

 

[sdrawkcab25]

It was prolly an HTC person that leaked it.

MolBasser

i agree, that is probably more likely.

 

[NightAngel79]

This is completely false.

How so? I thought it sounded very plausible.

I believe the auto brightness glitch is fixed.

Not familiar with this bug. What was it.

that is completely false, the roms that come out of xda are extremely more stable than official verizon releases and have MORE features, and everyone who installs them properly always notices how much "snappier" they are, myself included.

plus we aren't talking about homebrewed roms, the rom in question is an official rom SIGNED by htc, so obviously SOMEONE leaked it.

This^

Let's not argue about the skill of the xda guys. Far as I'm concerned their skill is unquestioned

 

[waynester]

I am sorry sir but again that is simply false. Verizon has a development team far more advanced than a few beginner developers on XDA website that play with ROMs and as you can see the ROMs that come out of the XDA website are always buggy and unstable with lack of features. It is required to have a deep understanding in the core fundamentals to produce a good ROM and this is why stock ROMs for the Incredible have always been superior to any 3rd party homebrew.

That is probably why Samsung hired Steve "Cyanogen" Kondik, to teach him the correct way to build rom's. Steve , the beginner, will be the one sending the oem roms to Verizon. Also explains why Samsung sent the Galaxies for the Cyanogen team to mod.

 

[BabyBlues]

I love this thread.

 

[FramCire]

I am sorry sir but again that is simply false. Verizon has a development team far more advanced than a few beginner developers on XDA website that play with ROMs and as you can see the ROMs that come out of the XDA website are always buggy and unstable with lack of features. It is required to have a deep understanding in the core fundamentals to produce a good ROM and this is why stock ROMs for the Incredible have always been superior to any 3rd party homebrew.

This post sounds exactly like a Verizon employee. Kudos.

However, the devs out there are always steps ahead of the ones employed by Verizon and HTC.

Look for phone manufacturer and carriers to hire more independent devs.

CM7 Nils Gingersense, and MIUI are already a ton ahead of this update

 

[Evan2ac]

That is probably why Samsung hired Steve "Cyanogen" Kondik, to teach him the correct way to build rom's. Steve , the beginner, will be the one sending the oem roms to Verizon. Also explains why Samsung sent the Galaxies for the Cyanogen team to mod.

I would like to clarify that Samsung and Verizon are two different companies. I dont know what goes on at Samsung nor is it relevant to this discussion. As stated before Verizon has its own professional, highly advanced, dev team and does not require assistance from hobbyists whom play with ROMs at home. As stated before stock verizon ROMs are far more stable and error free than 3rd party ROMs as shown throughout the Incredibles history.

 

[MolBasser]

I am sorry sir but again that is simply false. Verizon has a development team far more advanced than a few beginner developers on XDA website that play with ROMs and as you can see the ROMs that come out of the XDA website are always buggy and unstable with lack of features. It is required to have a deep understanding in the core fundamentals to produce a good ROM and this is why stock ROMs for the Incredible have always been superior to any 3rd party homebrew.

And as a side note, I take this jab at homebrewers pretty personally.

I'll put my homebrew up against any macro made american light lager out there. More flavor, better beer.

All malt, no adjunct (no bloat).

I think that analogy is pretty apropos.

MolBasser

 

[sdrawkcab25]

I would like to clarify that Samsung and Verizon are two different companies. I dont know what goes on at Samsung nor is it relevant to this discussion. As stated before Verizon has its own professional, highly advanced, dev team and does not require assistance from hobbyists whom play with ROMs at home. As stated before stock verizon ROMs are far more stable and error free than 3rd party ROMs as shown throughout the Incredibles history.

as already stated, the devs over at xda, make verizon devs look like kindergartners. Their roms are lightyears ahead of verizon/htc ... and more stable.

No offense to you, but you should really do more research on the development that goes on over at xda before you put them down.

 

[iowabowtech]

And as a side note, I take this jab at homebrewers pretty personally.

I'll put my homebrew up against any macro made american light lager out there. More flavor, better beer.

All malt, no adjunct (no bloat).

I think that analogy is pretty apropos.

MolBasser

Lol from one homebrewer to another. Orange American Wheat cooking on Friday. SWMBO has demanded it.

 

[iowabowtech]

As stated before stock verizon ROMs are far more stable and error free than 3rd party ROMs as shown throughout the Incredibles history.

2+2 = 5

See, you're not the only one who can make blatantly false statements.

 

[MolBasser]

I will clarify by saying that the Brewers at the Big 3 are quite competent, and make a nice product for those that want it. Bud is fine, and works fine. Stock Android is fine and works fine.

The difference lies in the love and dedication of the Hobbiest/Craft brewers. Less bottom line, more flavor.


Homebrewers (and craft brewers) make beers for the more adventursome and daring and sophisticated beer drinker.

Once again, apropos.

 

[johnt519]

I would like to clarify that Samsung and Verizon are two different companies. I dont know what goes on at Samsung nor is it relevant to this discussion. As stated before Verizon has its own professional, highly advanced, dev team and does not require assistance from hobbyists whom play with ROMs at home. As stated before stock verizon ROMs are far more stable and error free than 3rd party ROMs as shown throughout the Incredibles history.

So what exactly does Verizon provide? Google provides the base OS (Android), HTC provides the Sense UI.... What's left? Maybe the radio software? So other than the bloatware (My Verizon, VCast apps crap, etc.? How about don't put that crap on, and just let it go. Gotta say, that's one advantage to Apple and iPhone - no third party bloat.

 

[undergone]

I can tell you all already that this rom isn't official- unless the Inc2 has something different. The camera is definitely not the same. The Inc2 has a different settings layout for the camera as well as menu > settings. Unless that has to do with sense... and in that case... that's where I'm senseless... clarify?

 

[Deleted User]

I would like to clarify that Samsung and Verizon are two different companies. I dont know what goes on at Samsung nor is it relevant to this discussion. As stated before Verizon has its own professional, highly advanced, dev team and does not require assistance from hobbyists whom play with ROMs at home. As stated before stock verizon ROMs are far more stable and error free than 3rd party ROMs as shown throughout the Incredibles history.

What ROMs have the Verizon devs "created"? The update came from Google/HTC.

 

[NightAngel79]

I can tell you all already that this rom isn't official- unless the Inc2 has something different. The camera is definitely not the same. The Inc2 has a different settings layout for the camera as well as menu > settings. Unless that has to do with sense... and in that case... that's where I'm senseless... clarify?

That is sense related.


Again, this thread is NOT about the skill of the development teams not employed by VZW.

Which in my opinion can only be questioned by someone who knows nothing about the dev process. Nor what it takes to be a good developer.

We ARE NOT gonna be putting down anyone, especially not the hard working devs who truly do what they do FOR US, the users.

Let's get this thread at least partially back on topic guys (and gal, lol)

 

[Viking _ Droid]

What ROMs have the Verizon devs "created"? The update came from Google/HTC.

^ this