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trophynuts

trophynuts

Extreme Android User
Ok i know a lot of potential Prime buyers are not cool with the lack of SD. So in order to better understand, as well as prepare for when/if you do buy the Prime i suggest everyone research various ways of cloud storage.

for pics, videos, docs, music, anything.

i'm not going to list all of the possible good ways to accomplish this. There has been a thread started about the lack of SD card in the prime:

http://androidforums.com/nexus-prime/428096-lack-microsd-slot-killer.html

that thread lead me to creating the following thread in the Nexus S forum so that we could get some feedback from people that went through the same SD drama as some of us are probably about to.

http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/428269-life-without-sd-slot-need-feedback.html#post3316194



I for one already have a picasa acct but i will definitely research that more as well as others. Personally it is my preference that the lack of SD will not bother me.

Mods if you don't see this thread useful by all means lock it. Or if you want to merge it with the "lack of SD" thread then do so.

I just wanted to try and spread the word of how important cloud storage is about to be especially for some people that have never had a cell phone without an SD.

Hope this helps.

I also encourage people that want to know more about general Nexus ways to cruise the Nexus S forums. A lot of the questions i've seen pop up in the Prime forum can be answered by a little bit of easy research in the Nexus S forum. ..for example.....how do we root without an sd card....

UPDATE 10/17/2011
some links of knowledge. I had to use the Wikipedia listing for some of these because i'm at work and i'm blocked from getting to the actual sites. I'm sure there are many more but these are the ones off the top of my head.


Cloud storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Picasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Pricing and Support - Google Cloud Storage - Google Code

Getting Started at Amazon MP3: Shop 17 million songs, play your music from the cloud on any Android device, PC, or Mac with Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player.


Dropbox (service) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.box.net/
 
For those looking for cloud storage I came across a great deal today. Starting today for the next 50 days you can get 50GB of online data with box.net for free. The only catch is you have to activate your account from an iOS device. After you activate your account the 50GB is yours free for life though and there is an Android app that is very similar to Dropbox.
 
chrlswltrs said:
For those looking for cloud storage I came across a great deal today. Starting today for the next 50 days you can get 50GB of online data with box.net for free. The only catch is you have to activate your account from an iOS device. After you activate your account the 50GB is yours free for life though and there is an Android app that is very similar to Dropbox.
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Cloud storage has been spun to be this great thing for the consumer. Its a great thing for those who own and are able to charge for the cloud storage. No SD card being spun as no big deal. Just overlook the yearly or monthly charges (that will continue to rise) and the fact that your PERSONAL files and data is saved on someone elses storage. Wonderful! Ohh - and the kicker to your post - all you have to do is activate from an IOS device!!! LOL - apple money making machine 101. Convince your customers how a LACK of options and having to PAY them for using their device fully is actually to your benefit!! Wholly iSheep batman this is easy!!
 
Teegunn said:
Cloud storage has been spun to be this great thing for the consumer. Its a great thing for those who own and are able to charge for the cloud storage. No SD card being spun as no big deal. Just overlook the yearly or monthly charges (that will continue to rise) and the fact that your PERSONAL files and data is saved on someone elses storage. Wonderful! Ohh - and the kicker to your post - all you have to do is activate from an IOS device!!! LOL - apple money making machine 101. Convince your customers how a LACK of options and having to PAY them for using their device fully is actually to your benefit!! Wholly iSheep batman this is easy!!
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I understand your opinion of not liking Cloud storage. However some people do not share the same opinion as you. I made this thread to possibly help those people.
 
I would be more than happy to activate some accounts from my iPad. I just activated it on there and now I can access the 50GB from my Nexus or computers. Everyone knows someone with an iOS device, no one said you had to own one yourself. Plus that is definitely enough storage to last me a LONG time, especially since I have another 20GB from google for picasa.

And even if you activate your account from a non iOS device you get 5GB of storage for free.
 
trophynuts said:
I understand your opinion of not liking Cloud storage. However some people do not share the same opinion as you. I made this thread to possibly help those people.
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I personally love the idea of cloud storage and also love my Chrome OS notebook, which is basically nothing but cloud computing.

Cloud storage allows sharing of all your files without having to transfer SD cards between devices. Doesn't get any easier than effortless :cool:
 
There are plenty of options that are free. Doesn't google give out 5 gigs? Just open a few gmail accounts. Problem solved. Myself personally, if it ever came to it, i'd just use my PC as a "cloud" server. Music is one thing, but pictures and other things i'm not really cool with being on a server that i don't own. Principle here.
 
I like the idea of cloud storage - just don't like the idea of having to RELY on using cloud storage as my go to storage option. IF you think those owning the cloud storage aren't licking their chops on how much leverage this gives them you are fooling yourself. I may come off too strongly on my opinion, but people need to see the long term picture here. This is not a positive for us to lose basic android options like removable SD cards.
 
darkestred said:
There are plenty of options that are free. Doesn't google give out 5 gigs? Just open a few gmail accounts. Problem solved. Myself personally, if it ever came to it, i'd just use my PC as a "cloud" server. Music is one thing, but pictures and other things i'm not really cool with being on a server that i don't own. Principle here.
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I don't remember how much you get free, but it is only $5 a year for 20GB.
 
darkestred said:
There are plenty of options that are free. Doesn't google give out 5 gigs? Just open a few gmail accounts. Problem solved. Myself personally, if it ever came to it, i'd just use my PC as a "cloud" server. Music is one thing, but pictures and other things i'm not really cool with being on a server that i don't own. Principle here.
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How convenient. Just open up a bunch of different email accounts so you can have your "storage" fragmented all over hell on the net. And hope you happen to always have signal/service/wifi and hope you don't mind waiting while things stream back and forth. No thanks, I'll stick with my phyisical data option needing no data service of any kind that I can easily save/swap with my own two hands.
 
Let me clearly reiterate that my caustic tone is NOT personal so please don't take it so. In this day and age, we should all question allowing data and info to be thrown into the wind for someone else to "care for and store for us" and then think it's all safe and dandy. I don't have illegal dealings, things to really hide, etc, but I sure as hell want to keep my life private to a certain extent. Too many "ifs" involved for me to blindly trust a total online option, and honestly, I am generally a very trusting person.
 
Teegunn said:
Cloud storage has been spun to be this great thing for the consumer. Its a great thing for those who own and are able to charge for the cloud storage. No SD card being spun as no big deal. Just overlook the yearly or monthly charges (that will continue to rise) and the fact that your PERSONAL files and data is saved on someone elses storage. Wonderful! Ohh - and the kicker to your post - all you have to do is activate from an IOS device!!! LOL - apple money making machine 101. Convince your customers how a LACK of options and having to PAY them for using their device fully is actually to your benefit!! Wholly iSheep batman this is easy!!
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It's not a spin when people use and enjoy cloud storage. Google Music stores all of my music in the cloud. I pin albums locally to my phone when I am listening to them frequently, and unpin them to swap my music around. It's convenient, fast, and I have my entire music collection on tap without requiring a 100gb MP3 player. That's not a spin, that's reality.

You claim you're a "trusting person" and yet this particular subject is something you have a huge problem with? Do you send and receive emails? Even if you don't retain them in the cloud (e.g. webmail, IMAP), you do know that these emails traverse often-insecure servers that are owned by people completely unrelated to EITHER party on each side of the email? Do you not think that's worse than storing files in a cloud where you at least know who owns the servers?

You are blindly trusting servers every single day with tons of personal data. You are blindly trusting applications you install on your computer or your phone or whatever to not mine personal information or log keystrokes or find your bank information. You are blindly trusting Facebook or any other social network if you have an account with them. So much blind trust goes into working with computers because you can't see or touch the information, so you have no control over it. Cloud storage is no more scary than anything else you trust every day.





On the original point, I, for one, don't need that much space on my phone. The only thing I use that requires significant space is music, and as stated earlier, Google Music has negated the need for me to tote around my entire collection on my phone on the off chance that I'd like to listen to this or that album. I get the best of both worlds - local storage on my phone for that which I'm likely to listen to, and access to everything else if I decide I want something random. Thus, an SD card is not a big selling point for me - I would be far more concerned if it had a sealed battery.
 
How bout some of you stop hijacking Trophy's thread with bickering back and fourth about which is better, cloud or SD! This thread was created to give people options on storage that have never used a phone that doesn't have removable memory. Not to hear about those who like cloud storage, and those who don't! Visit the Lack of an SD card killer Thread if you want to complain. And no i'm not some cloud storage fanatic, I'd actually prefer an SD card, just a person who likes to stick to the theme of the Topic.

Thanks for some of the alternatives peeps, keep em coming, this Thread is going to become very useful to alot of members if this Nexus is deff lacking an SD slot.
 
sean76 said:
How bout some of you stop hijacking Trophy's thread with bickering back and fourth about which is better, cloud or SD!
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How is a discussion about the safety of cloud storage not relevant to a thread about cloud storage? :rolleyes:
 
The issue seems moot, since cloud likers could care less if only 8gb like the Trojan horse known as Kindle Fire. Folks that are media hounds and like having the content stored locally are concerned that there is no sd slot.

Seems two different groups of folks, but the average person will have no issues with storage. Probably 15% tops will be have an issue with no sd card. I am one of those that will happily use my Droid 3, since has more space options and no IMO lame a$$ cloud that is a pure data mine for Google and Amazon and all others that push for this. Big brother is in the house! ;)
 
rushmore said:
The issue seems moot, since cloud likers could care less if only 8gb like the Trojan horse known as Kindle Fire. Folks that are media hounds and like having the content stored locally are concerned that there is no sd slot.

Seems two different groups of folks, but the average person will have no issues with storage. Probably 15% tops will be have an issue with no sd card. I am one of those that will happily use my Droid 3, since has more space options and no IMO lame a$$ cloud that is a pure data mine for Google and Amazon and all others that push for this. Big brother is in the house! ;)
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big brother isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

i intended this thread to help people that as their first phone had an SD slot. Now if they are thinking about getting a phone without an SD then this will help them transition.
 
binary visions said:
How is a discussion about the safety of cloud storage not relevant to a thread about cloud storage? :rolleyes:
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Turns into a food fight! I wont dwell on this, but your a person who seems to like and embrace the cloud, some do not share in your joy for this option. So trying to convince them is pretty much useless. People like what they like...However, u make some pretty good points overall about how the cloud can be used and benefitting. But again, some just dont wanna hear it and would rather have an SD card in board.
 
So, I'm just considering ways that you'd end up filling up a 20+ GB partition.

Mostly, I'm thinking that almost all of it would have to be music and movies (either stored movies, or movies you've taken with the phone). Right? I mean, realistically, I edit a fair number of documents and my documents folder on my laptop at work is still only around 6gb. That's a big chunk of 20gb but I wouldn't expect people to be looking at a majority of those on the phone.

Photos could take up a lot if you are a rabid photo-taker but sheesh, that would have to be a lot of photos. An 8mp image out of my Droid X is 2-4mb. Let's average it at 3mb, and you've got ~330 photos per gigabyte. Are people really taking 1000+ photos with their phones?

So what else is everyone storing on their phones that takes up a bunch of space? I suppose Clockworkmod backups would start to get onerous if you store a lot of snapshots. Anything else?
 
binary visions said:
So what else is everyone storing on their phones that takes up a bunch of space? I suppose Clockworkmod backups would start to get onerous if you store a lot of snapshots. Anything else?
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i think i have a 1000+ pics on my DX now...only because i'm lazy and don't feel like deleting a lot of them.

but yeah clockwork backupsk, different RoMs and themes would be on there but that only applies to the rooted users and not the general user.

personally as i said before i am fine with no sd if it has 32gb on board. I feel that will be plenty for me.
 
binary visions said:
So, I'm just considering ways that you'd end up filling up a 20+ GB partition.

Mostly, I'm thinking that almost all of it would have to be music and movies (either stored movies, or movies you've taken with the phone). Right? I mean, realistically, I edit a fair number of documents and my documents folder on my laptop at work is still only around 6gb. That's a big chunk of 20gb but I wouldn't expect people to be looking at a majority of those on the phone.

Photos could take up a lot if you are a rabid photo-taker but sheesh, that would have to be a lot of photos. An 8mp image out of my Droid X is 2-4mb. Let's average it at 3mb, and you've got ~330 photos per gigabyte. Are people really taking 1000+ photos with their phones?

So what else is everyone storing on their phones that takes up a bunch of space? I suppose Clockworkmod backups would start to get onerous if you store a lot of snapshots. Anything else?
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For me...its lots of pics, and music on my phone! Lol, yes I take tons of pictures.

However these days I listen to alot of Sirius radio...so its not like it was with music a few years ago. I could adapt to the cloud if I had to with no choice, I'm a former iphone user, so I've rolled in that world before. But that's what's been so great about Android....choice!

Is what it is, we'll just have to wait till next week to find out what we are all in for!
 
trophynuts said:
big brother isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

i intended this thread to help people that as their first phone had an SD slot. Now if they are thinking about getting a phone without an SD then this will help them transition.
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Good point..... Do we know for sure there is no slot? ;) :) :( :)
 
I have had a couple people pm me an email address to activate their box.net accounts from my iPad so they could have 50GB free. Anyone else want to take advantage of that, I'm more than willing to hook some more people up. :cool:
 
trophynuts said:
i think i have a 1000+ pics on my DX now...only because i'm lazy and don't feel like deleting a lot of them.

but yeah clockwork backupsk, different RoMs and themes would be on there but that only applies to the rooted users and not the general user.

personally as i said before i am fine with no sd if it has 32gb on board. I feel that will be plenty for me.
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Same. Over the course of 2 years (average time having a phone) you shouldn't be too surprised that you can take over 1000 pictures. On my OGDroid I have almost 2k. And yet those 2k pictures for my OGDroid are still only a few gigs. It's the 12 gigs of music that really hogs the data.

Even then I would be totally fine with 32 gigs and no SD because it would be ridiculously hard to fill without the use of movies (taken by phone or uploaded manually) and/or a few of these new big games.

It was nice to see a thread that helps with cloud storage seeing as I would like to become more familiar with it. The more knowledge/tutorials the better. Let's keep the information flowing (as well as the debate if we can keep it civil).
 
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