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.:Official Review And Impressions Thread:.

So what do you think about the Rezound/Vigor?

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Some thoughts on the SOUND of this, cause lets face it, this is a major selling point.
Firstly, the iBeats supplied headphones.... Yeah they are horrible for anyhting with mid-range. For highs and LOWS, they are ok. For rap, they put enough thump out to actually rattle your nogging. The mids are so muddy its like wadding through butter though.
Using my Audio-Technica M50s with the pair of them(I can't find how to force Beats ON, so this is just stock for stock), Megadeth's Hanger 18 sounded far crisper and smoother on the Vigor (lets face it, this was a better name anyway). Sting's Desert Rose, the vocals were cleaner, the beat itself far easier to hear and especially the highs far crisper. Mirror Mirror Blind Guardian was WAY better, you could hear each instrument as it was played vs. the D2 which just kind of smushed them together. Us and Them by Pink Floyd, the mids were a bit weaker on the Vigor but not bad enough to annoy but it can be noticed side-by-side.
I watched some scenes from Iron Man 2 and Lord of the Rings, both sounded and of course LOOKED better.
Overall, I am very happy with the audio of these, the Beats might be just branding but at least compared to what I am coming from, the sound is better in all ways.
The speaker on this thing btw, can fill a whole room. It is almost painfully loud and while has next to no low or mid range, doesn't distort even at super high volumes.


What was the video quality of Iron Man 2 and LOTRs? It would be nice if the phone had software that upconverted everything to 720p but I doubt it. I guess I'll have to go find me some 720p content somewhere so I'll have it in time for the phone to get here......



Ky= Kentucky :rolleyes:


Ewww! You mean this whole time I've been using Kentucky Jelly?

<soaks his junk in gasoline and lights it on fire> :p ;)
 
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I think you have to go south one more state for that to really hit home :)
 
Iron Man 2 was a digital copy from my blu-ray copy of it, LOTR was a DVD.
Some further benchmark results for those that care about such things:
AnTuTu, average of 3 runs: 5644,5724,5245; 5537.7
Average of 10 Quandrant runs:1912,2727,2516,2509,2639,2483,2487,2404,2486,2611; 2477.4, or if we throw out the 2 outliers its: 2516.4
For sake of comparison, my old phone a droid2 did after 4 runs cause I honestly got sick of running it:1586,1825,1587,1631; 1657.3
 
:rolleyes:



Going to store on monday to get it!! Can't wait!

Need a high quality protector though. Will really miss my Steinhill CC

I've been looking at their site (along with Seidio) for products for the Rezound and nada. I've used Steinhill CC's on both my Incredibles and they are the best for me. I tried one from Seidio and they're ok, but seem to be more a pin to install than the SGP's. Hopefully they come out with something soon.
 
The hard case I linked to earlier from HTCPedia has a kickstand almost identical to the Tbolt. They also sell this one, but I figured you'd be looking for something more like what's on your current phone.


The kickstand is definitely a nice feature. I'm not sure what route I want to go. I'll probably do like I did with the Thunderbolt, I'll do an impulse buy with whatever case is available at Verizon after I get my phone. I may go ahead and look at the Seidio offerings before I get the phone, but knowing my luck I'll get some review of the Nexus that makes me wish I had waited for it.
 
I am super jelious but I am still waiting for the gnex before I make my final choice ahhh I don't wanna make it lol someone do it for me
 
Was at the local Verizon store seeing if they put out the Rezound early. No such luck. Looked at the Inc2 for SLCD compared to the Razr and for my eyes, the SLCD just looks so much better, crisper. Question: never knew this but the capacitive buttons on the Inc2 rotated when I went from portrait to landscape (left). Thought that was pretty neat (I am coming from the Eris). Anyone who has the Rezound now does it do this as well?
 
I've been looking at their site (along with Seidio) for products for the Rezound and nada. I've used Steinhill CC's on both my Incredibles and they are the best for me. I tried one from Seidio and they're ok, but seem to be more a pin to install than the SGP's. Hopefully they come out with something soon.

Me too, still have the original screenie on from when i first got my phone in june 2010. still can't even tell it is on..... hate geting phone without the the accessories i want!
Was at the local Verizon store seeing if they put out the Rezound early. No such luck. Looked at the Inc2 for SLCD compared to the Razr and for my eyes, the SLCD just looks so much better, crisper. Question: never knew this but the capacitive buttons on the Inc2 rotated when I went from portrait to landscape (left). Thought that was pretty neat (I am coming from the Eris). Anyone who has the Rezound now does it do this as well?

Good question, Inc 2 is the only HTC phone i've heard of that does that though
 
Was at the local Verizon store seeing if they put out the Rezound early. No such luck. Looked at the Inc2 for SLCD compared to the Razr and for my eyes, the SLCD just looks so much better, crisper. Question: never knew this but the capacitive buttons on the Inc2 rotated when I went from portrait to landscape (left). Thought that was pretty neat (I am coming from the Eris). Anyone who has the Rezound now does it do this as well?

Nope, got mine early and it doesn't do that.
 
I am super jelious but I am still waiting for the gnex before I make my final choice ahhh I don't wanna make it lol someone do it for me

You can always get the Rezound and if the Nexus comes out within the 14 days, you can always just return it. The Nexus would have to come out after the 28th in order for you not to get to exchange it.
 
Button's don't rotate, unless it is something I have to enable.
One thing to remember with cases as well, the 4G antenna are built INTO the back cover, so don't thing you will be able to replace it with something prettier (I imagine cases should be fine, just can't replace the stock cover itself)
 
Just got mine from a store, super initial impressions are very good. I personally don't mind the size at all, in fact I like that it is a bit fatter as it rests FAR better in my hand for 1-handed operation.
Screen is superb, on-par with the retina displays clean viewing and colors. Can't comment on battery life yet, as I have had it for about 30 minutes.
4G connection speeds are 16mb down, 6mb up where I am at, if that is bad then I am happy with bad lol.
Camera is stupidly quick and the wide-angle is awesome, haven't tested in-depth for quality yet.
Quick triple run of Quadrant Standard:
2378
2480
2517

Friends don't let friends run Quadrant on dual cores, so as your very loyal HTC pal, here's some skinny to bear in mind for the future when benchmarks come up.

My 1.2 GHz S3 - 2400. Rooted and nothing else, it dropped to 2200.

Overclocked, bloat stripped and running like a screaming banshi with its hair on fire at 1.5 GHz: 750. Nope, I didn't forget a one somewhere - 750. In other words, improvements that you see and go wow to will make Quadrant scores go up, down, and sideways.

Quadrant, while famous, won't tell you anything about a dual core phone so you want to shift your thinking a tad to get the best ideas.

If you want to be prepared to be amazed at how your current phone works compared to a dual core, run these now (all free in the Market), compare later to the Rezound:

CF-Bench for cpu (REALLY tests lots of calculation types)
Nenamark 2 for 3d/gaming graphics on the gpu
Vellamo Mobile Web Browser benchmark

I like benchmarks that will relate to end-user use of the phone overall, if you're like me and want simple benchmarking tools that really work for that, those are some good picks (and there are other good ones as well for dual cores).

For a fun push on some of the GPU capabilities, try Monjori Shader Benchmark - note for example that single cores are going to come in below 20 fps on that (with the Galaxy S hitting 4 to 7 fps), while the S3 is going to hit 30 fps.

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A note on dual cores - people call the S3 an A8 and the other new dual cores an A9 Cortex. Yeah. No.

The S3 is unique in that it runs a heavily-extend Cortex architecture but is not Cortex. Think like AMD and Intel - the two will run the same instructions, but the AMD is not an earlier Intel, it's other.

The S3 is other.

It's the only dual core out there where each cpu core will run at independent speeds, so each core works just to the level it needs. The A9 dual cores are locked - so the kernel designer has to optimize for speed (both cores running at the speed of the fastest, to heck with power), efficiency (both cores running at the speed of the slowest, to heck with performance) or somewhere in between (one size fits all). While the A9 is doing all that - the S3 just does what it needs to do, simply and efficiently where clock management is concerned.

That just flew in the face of nearly everything you'll read on the web, but just remember that nearly everything you'll read on the web came from A9 manufacturers who are unhappy with the asynchronous clock approach. Synchronous clocking in the A9 is part of the Cortex spec - S3 Scorpions just don't work that way at all. ;)

In my studies, I've found that the S3 is per-clock a bit less efficient than the A9 types - so pretty much expect the S3 at 1.5 GHz to basically match up with an A9 (Exynos, Tegra 2, OMAP4) at 1.2 GHz for cpu performance, and everyone argues about gpu performance, so I won't enter that fray.

I'll just say the best glasses-free *real* 3D phone runs with an S3 and let you draw your own conclusions if the S3 isn't more than plenty capable for media processing. ;) :)

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A note on dual cores and ICS -

Your Rezound *will* run both cores very efficiently. Android and many apps are already fully capable of running both cores well (pictures upon request).

ICS is simply upping the game in task management on dual cores. Expect an improvement, but don't take any guff from anyone telling your Rezound isn't running both cores with Gingerbread because that's just silly and not true.
 
EarlyMon thanks for the great info.

So are you saying that for Devs to make custom Kernals for the Rezound there will be more work involved because of the S3 architecture? If so it makes sense...no pun intended. lol
 
Friends don't let friends run Quadrant on dual cores, so as your very loyal HTC pal, here's some skinny to bear in mind for the future when benchmarks come up.

My 1.2 GHz S3 - 2400. Rooted and nothing else, it dropped to 2200.

Overclocked, bloat stripped and running like a screaming banshi with its hair on fire at 1.5 GHz: 750. Nope, I didn't forget a one somewhere - 750. In other words, improvements that you see and go wow to will make Quadrant scores go up, down, and sideways.

Quadrant, while famous, won't tell you anything about a dual core phone so you want to shift your thinking a tad to get the best ideas.

If you want to be prepared to be amazed at how your current phone works compared to a dual core, run these now (all free in the Market), compare later to the Rezound:

CF-Bench for cpu (REALLY tests lots of calculation types)
Nenamark 2 for 3d/gaming graphics on the gpu
Vellamo Mobile Web Browser benchmark

I like benchmarks that will relate to end-user use of the phone overall, if you're like me and want simple benchmarking tools that really work for that, those are some good picks (and there are other good ones as well for dual cores).

For a fun push on some of the GPU capabilities, try Monjori Shader Benchmark - note for example that single cores are going to come in below 20 fps on that (with the Galaxy S hitting 4 to 7 fps), while the S3 is going to hit 30 fps.

~~~~~~~~

A note on dual cores - people call the S3 an A8 and the other new dual cores an A9 Cortex. Yeah. No.

The S3 is unique in that it runs a heavily-extend Cortex architecture but is not Cortex. Think like AMD and Intel - the two will run the same instructions, but the AMD is not an earlier Intel, it's other.

The S3 is other.

It's the only dual core out there where each cpu core will run at independent speeds, so each core works just to the level it needs. The A9 dual cores are locked - so the kernel designer has to optimize for speed (both cores running at the speed of the fastest, to heck with power), efficiency (both cores running at the speed of the slowest, to heck with performance) or somewhere in between (one size fits all). While the A9 is doing all that - the S3 just does what it needs to do, simply and efficiently where clock management is concerned.

That just flew in the face of nearly everything you'll read on the web, but just remember that nearly everything you'll read on the web came from A9 manufacturers who are unhappy with the asynchronous clock approach. Synchronous clocking in the A9 is part of the Cortex spec - S3 Scorpions just don't work that way at all. ;)

In my studies, I've found that the S3 is per-clock a bit less efficient than the A9 types - so pretty much expect the S3 at 1.5 GHz to basically match up with an A9 (Exynos, Tegra 2, OMAP4) at 1.2 GHz for cpu performance, and everyone argues about gpu performance, so I won't enter that fray.

I'll just say the best glasses-free *real* 3D phone runs with an S3 and let you draw your own conclusions if the S3 isn't more than plenty capable for media processing. ;) :)

~~~~~~~

A note on dual cores and ICS -

Your Rezound *will* run both cores very efficiently. Android and many apps are already fully capable of running both cores well (pictures upon request).

ICS is simply upping the game in task management on dual cores. Expect an improvement, but don't take any guff from anyone telling your Rezound isn't running both cores with Gingerbread because that's just silly and not true.


I do know that for real world practical power (sans synthetic benchmarks), N64, PSX and high def Flash in browser performs faster on the Flyer, which is a single core, than the Droid 3, Bionic, Thrive, DX2 and the Razr. That is just a single core Scorpion at 1.5ghz.

Though I did not test PSX, the N64Oid and hi def Flash performed even better on the Rezound than on the Flyer. This is in spite of a much higher res display than the devices like the Razr.

The Rezound so far has impressed me, but less than two total hours does not make a thorough test. The one thing I do know is I like the Rezound, the more I use it, but like the Razr less, the more I use it. IMO, it runs too warm, the display is weak compared to the Rezound and the Rezound is FAR more comfortable to hold and use with one hand.

If the 4G is more stable than other devices as Mobiletechreview asserts, that about seals it.

Anybody wanna buy some Beats? ;)
 
EarlyMon thanks for the great info.

So are you saying that for Devs to make custom Kernals for the Rezound there will be more work involved because of the S3 architecture? If so it makes sense...no pun intended. lol

You know, I've never thought of that. I know a few of them well enough to chat with, if I hear anything firsthand, I'll post back.

PS to rushmore - Whoa! You _have_ a Flyer? I'm going to look for your posts on that, I've been interested in it since day one, but have kept going back and forth. (Sorry for the off-topic gang, that was just exciting for me. :))
 
You know, I've never thought of that. I know a few of them well enough to chat with, if I hear anything firsthand, I'll post back.

PS to rushmore - Whoa! You _have_ a Flyer? I'm going to look for your posts on that, I've been interested in it since day one, but have kept going back and forth. (Sorry for the off-topic gang, that was just exciting for me. :))


I posted a mini review in the Flyer forum. Great device and charges via the usb port :) Fantastic at $300. The great performance for game emulators and hi def Flash is why I got interested in the Rezound, since dual version of the Scorpion in the Flyer.

The Flyer is faster than the Razr for N64 and hi def Flash.
 
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