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Root Well, I did it- got bricked- but REAL bricked too

jdash52

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Tried everything I could for past 18 hours.. read over and over the same.. The device will simply not respond to anything. Formatted SD card a hundred times and ways to sunday.

Speaking of which, can anyone tell me what the partition scheme is supposed to look like? MOBILE @ 100MB FAT32 -> sdcard XXXXMB FAT32 -> 500MB ext2 -> 32MB swap .... that correctish? Which holds recovery?

Think it's no matter because the dang thing will not show up no how under a USB connection. I have the SD card into a reader to do the file swapping..

So ... any ideas? I couldn't find anything short of the physical hack to jump into download mode with some pins .. well, this

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you arent very clear about whats happening.

sounds like your trying to say the phone wont turn on or do anything even when connected to usb power.

if thats the case, VM will replace it, its a hardware failure. not a "brick"


now, if it turns on but you cant get it into recovery or download mode, thats usually becuase sometimes the phone stores capacitance between turning it off and back on. it happens to mine to, i have to either swap the battery with my spare or take the battery out and let it sit for 30 minutes or so and then download mode and recovery boots just fine. idk why that is.
 
you might also look into a special sd formatting utility for phones (run it off your pc)

It's my understanding that formatting it on a pc, FAT32 with the built in windows format utility can cause a problem for reading it on the phone.
 
i have a couple questions...

1. what did you do to it before it became "bricked"?

2. does it boot into recovery mode?
 
i have a couple questions...

1. what did you do to it before it became "bricked"?

2. does it boot into recovery mode?

to respond
1) I foolishly went erasing and formatting everything I could because I had my confidence up that I knew what MODs I wanted and how to get them. Wiped all the partitions and for some reason CMW has this format/partition option... I was playing around! Poof drive mounts no more after the restart.

I wanted to give it a cold boot, a force boot or anything so I can push the right datagrams over but alas, she's Or, the whale.

2) negative. positively zero reaction from the mother ship ... not a light to indicate charging, nor recover or download modes. Even yes being sure that my 7 barcode device hasn't just been masking the text on me. In other words, I'm sure, no recover and not bootloader.

It's f'd unless I can use android sdk to push a line into it for some initial boot, then I have all I need. With straight hard drives I've been able to create a mount of a beat drive and get all over those magnetic films. This virtualization- dunno.

I just bought the thing used; the guy before had screwed with the MODs and it was acting funny so I wanted to go stock and perhaps a tweak or two after. Just needed to clear out his tracks. Have to check with VM on that one.

Thanks for responses all, please let me know if you think of anything else to consider.
 
anyways, i still can't quite make out the entirety of what you actually DID to the phone. but it seems like you formatted everything and want to put the correct partitions on it again.

If it was an LG phone, LGNPST would fix the problem. I dont think Motorola makes anything similar and if they do its not widely known.

Consider buying a new phone?
 
So none of those partitions mount at all (even in a linux distro?)? I believe that is what you said, but I have a fuzzy memory sometimes. If that is the case I don't really know how to help you. I am guessing if that's the case that you need to call VM and see what they say.
 
anyways, i still can't quite make out the entirety of what you actually DID to the phone. but it seems like you formatted everything and want to put the correct partitions on it again.

If it was an LG phone, LGNPST would fix the problem. I dont think Motorola makes anything similar and if they do its not widely known.

Consider buying a new phone?

there's qpst for qualcomm devices... I'm assuming it would be like lgnpst, but ive never used that...
 
Yeah man I think you just destroyed all the partitions... just call vm and get a replacement. It will be the best thing to do.
 
It's f'd unless I can use android sdk to push a line into it for some initial boot, then I have all I need. With straight hard drives I've been able to create a mount of a beat drive and get all over those magnetic films. This virtualization- dunno.

No offence, but what does this mean? I would like to help but I have no idea what you are trying to say. Sorry
 
Yeah I think you need to clarify some things. First of all what recovery version where you using, and what partitions dud you format under them. Also try booting into download mode(volume down and power) and plug your phone into your computer. If a mobile drive gets mounted then your not bricked.

Also why do you speak of the partition structure of the sdcard? It has nothing to do with the phone being bricked! The partition that contains the recovery and the importantant boot information is stored on the phones internal memory. It is the one that gets mounted as the mobile drive in download mode!

Provide us with some concise details I'd you wanna have any hope of fixing your phone. If not good luck on your own as there is nothing we can do if we don't understand what you did!!
 
Who deleted my posts? I was trying to help the guy out by listing a website that cheers people up.

With the OP's issue not being resolved an off topic post is probably not necessary. We can help solve the issue if possible and then do that sort of stuff. :)
FYI a mod deleted it (which is probably obvious since they are the only ones who are supposed to do that).
 
With the OP's issue not being resolved an off topic post is probably not necessary. We can help solve the issue if possible and then do that sort of stuff. :)
FYI a mod deleted it (which is probably obvious since they are the only ones who are supposed to do that).

oh ok thanks. i was just trying to brighten the mood lol :D

cause nyan cat is redonkuously annoying! lmao! :)
 
Yeah I think you need to clarify some things. First of all what recovery version where you using, and what partitions dud you format under them. Also try booting into download mode(volume down and power) and plug your phone into your computer. If a mobile drive gets mounted then your not bricked.

I have zero response from the phone. It will not boot into d/l mode nor recovery. Pressing any button/combination of buttons produces the same result- absolutely nothing, as if I were pressing the buttons with the battery pulled out.

Also why do you speak of the partition structure of the sdcard? It has nothing to do with the phone being bricked! The partition that contains the recovery and the importantant boot information is stored on the phones internal memory. It is the one that gets mounted as the mobile drive in download mode!
In my ignorance as an android noob and generally inexperienced with phone technology I pulled out my SD card, stuck it in a card reader and formatted it clean. Wiped all the partitions off it (of which I found many) and tried to reformat. I did it on a Mac initially and have subsequently used Windows and none of the formatting seems to make the SD card recognizable to the phone for something like attempting a DREAIMG-RC29 recovery.

I haven't been sure if the MOBILE partition was on the sdcard-ext or the internal memory. Sdcard-ext is the mount point for the external sd card according to the Android SDK reading I did. But I tried formatting the external as FAT32, EXT2 and EXT3 and found nothing worked. This is obvious to most of you I'm sure, but formatting the external SD isn't particularly useful or needed, yet it was only after I formatted the the card on the Mac that the phone would no longer boot into anything and effectively became bricked. So seemed like it is part of the equation somewhere for bootloader or something... not the case though?

For reference, I was partitioning mostly to meet the recommendations from here: Android Simplicity: How-To #6: How to Partition your SDcard


Provide us with some concise details I'd you wanna have any hope of fixing your phone. If not good luck on your own as there is nothing we can do if we don't understand what you did!!
Been trying on my own. I went into QPST and discovered that it is only in Software Download that it finds anything related to a device being attached. No other module will load or read from the phone. So I spent lots of time looking for the right files to use to flash the phone from QPST-- they are .hex files or .qcn or some other such that I just cannot locate anywhere on the web or in the now very large directory of files I have downloaded of various stuff.

This link: How to unpack and repack NB0 file - Android Wiki helped provide insight into what the different required files/filetypes are that QPST wants to flash out the phone. I have some but not all of the files needed.

So now I am on to fastboot. I'm following this thread: [HOWTO] (moto-fastboot) Flash a build on an unlocked Atrix - xda-developers trying to figure out exactly what I should do to "./fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" or whatever such I should be trying. I don't know if I need to run "./fastboot oem unlock" first and have it connect/work, if I need to ensure the phone is rooted first, or neither or what ....

So that is where I am at.

As far as the steps I used to produce this fantastic result? I said, I formatted everything I could from CWM 5.xxxx. All the Davik, caches, data, system, etc. Where I think I really produced the bad result was when I went in and formatted the "sdcard" which I now understand to be the internal memory. I also formatted everything else. Upon reboot I could only get into download mode. That was when I had the bright idea to format the external SDcard as stated above. After that---- well, I have the brick I refer to. Functionless. Completely. Save for the fact that when it is attached via USB that USB drivers load it as QHSUSB_DLOAD or some variant. This is as it is recognized in windows under the COM port as I load it. I've tried loading every driver I could find into this device and could not really identify anything useful coming out of it- although I haven't completely ruled it out.

Under OSX, as I tried to fastboot it I was getting an error "ERROR- could not get pipe properties" and it would following up with <waiting for device> over and over... I switched to another USB port and the pipe property error went away but fastboot wouldn't flash or do anything.

So-- anybody have experience with this or another idea what to try?? I called VM and my particular case is peculiar. I bought the phone used. It is a first generation Triumph. The previous owner never activated the phone with VM and bought it from BestBuy. I recently activated it but less than 30 days ago. So, VM says I have to take it to BB to return it but of course it is past the return date at BB. VM says I have to wait until +30 days before they will do a replacement. I informed them about the "what if I bought it longer than 30 days yet only activated recently" and nothing they can/will do. :rolleyes:

Thanks y'all (and I've written this post in as little prose as possible- hopefully it is comprehensible.)
 
The SD card is not the internal memory. Wiping your SD card won't screw anything up. Wiping /system will mean you wiped the OS, but you would still be able to boot into recovery or download mode. If you had flashed an older version of ClockworkMod Recovery, some of those had an option to format /fat, so that might be what did it if you had an older version (the newer ones do not include it). None of those things would cause you to not be able to get into download mode and be able to fixit though. There has to be another reason for it. I don't believe fastboot works at all for the Triumph, and sd-ext is also not on the phone (not sure if you can even get it to work at all or not). Most of the things you were talking about doing are for other phones, so I doubt they are necessarily going to work for this one. The MOBILE partition is part of the phones internal memory. It holds the image folder with things like the boot.img and all that.

If you are using a Mac, you might have been able to format some of the phone partitions from the computer (you can in Linux) that Windows won't display. What version of CWM did you install and how did you do it? before you got into any of this?


EDIT: I also moved this to the All Things Root section as it should be there.
 
I don't believe fastboot works at all for the Triumph
Have you seen/heard of moto-fastboot? I don't know if it works for Triumph but it seems to have been compiled with Motorola phones in mind. See: [HOWTO] (moto-fastboot) Flash a build on an unlocked Atrix - xda-developers

If you are using a Mac, you might have been able to format some of the phone partitions from the computer (you can in Linux) that Windows won't display. What version of CWM did you install and how did you do it? before you got into any of this?
This is what I did then- I formatted some (all) of the phone's internal partitions. Assuming this is the case -- Any way to re-partition, etc?

I used CWM 5.xxxx (whatever the latest version is) and I know that the 3.xxx (or whatever version that is) has the trouble-making options that were removed from 4 & 5. However in 5, I believe you can still "format partitions" or maybe it is "create partitions"... that or the MacOSx formatting through Disk Utility with debugging and force list of all disks, is what must've done it.

Either case, I'm about positive that if there is a way to check/repartition the phone's internal partitions that it is where I should be beginning. :confused:

Regarding QHSUSB_DLOAD -- the apparent description of what state my phone is in -- I have been reading these threads. I can't understand everything there so any feedback on these would be appreciated for sure.

[WIP] Download mode, Radio Serial Shells, Eng Hboot and more! *GETTING CLOSE TO DONE* - xda-developers
particular attention paid to this post: xda-developers - View Single Post - [WIP] Download mode, Radio Serial Shells, Eng Hboot and more! *GETTING CLOSE TO DONE*
The Triumph is a Snapdragon S2 MSM8655 processor. QPST has QSD8250 in one of the menu options but I don't know how to use it or what it could do. QSD8250 is related to the MSM8655 I believe... read that on qualcomm site somewhere.

So beyond QPST I have opened up RevSkills and without being on Pro version I don't think I can re-partition the internal. Yet, I also don't know that WITH pro I could do it anyway.

Maybe I should just wait until VM is ready to replace it-- like 2 more weeks. Ugh. :mad:

On the other hand, being unreachable is kind of nice too. :cool:
 
I know fastboot works on some motorola devices, but not the Triumph from what I hear.

So when you hook it up to your computer none of the partitions you messed with are mountable? You are probably SOL unless you can get a replacement.

If you can somehow access them, then you just need a copy of what is needed there in order to get it to work. Unfortunately some of that stuff is device specific and I wouldn't share that from mine (some stuff I would, but not all of it). So unless you can get someone to do that you would be out of luck even if you could get it to work. I am still guessing that getting a replacement is the best option. Where did you buy the phone from?
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I thought my Triumph kicked the bucket a while back. Ended up being a mix of inaccurate battery life showing and a bad USB charging cable. My LED would light up like it was charging, but it wasn't.

Replaced cable, no problems since. Could be helpful, maybe not. Took quite a while before the phone would actually turn on again after replacing the cable and letting it charge. It was plugged in and showing a full charge when it "died".
 
Have you seen/heard of moto-fastboot? I don't know if it works for Triumph but it seems to have been compiled with Motorola phones in mind. See: [HOWTO] (moto-fastboot) Flash a build on an unlocked Atrix - xda-developers

This is what I did then- I formatted some (all) of the phone's internal partitions. Assuming this is the case -- Any way to re-partition, etc?

I used CWM 5.xxxx (whatever the latest version is) and I know that the 3.xxx (or whatever version that is) has the trouble-making options that were removed from 4 & 5. However in 5, I believe you can still "format partitions" or maybe it is "create partitions"... that or the MacOSx formatting through Disk Utility with debugging and force list of all disks, is what must've done it.

Either case, I'm about positive that if there is a way to check/repartition the phone's internal partitions that it is where I should be beginning. :confused:

Regarding QHSUSB_DLOAD -- the apparent description of what state my phone is in -- I have been reading these threads. I can't understand everything there so any feedback on these would be appreciated for sure.

[WIP] Download mode, Radio Serial Shells, Eng Hboot and more! *GETTING CLOSE TO DONE* - xda-developers
particular attention paid to this post: xda-developers - View Single Post - [WIP] Download mode, Radio Serial Shells, Eng Hboot and more! *GETTING CLOSE TO DONE*
The Triumph is a Snapdragon S2 MSM8655 processor. QPST has QSD8250 in one of the menu options but I don't know how to use it or what it could do. QSD8250 is related to the MSM8655 I believe... read that on qualcomm site somewhere.

So beyond QPST I have opened up RevSkills and without being on Pro version I don't think I can re-partition the internal. Yet, I also don't know that WITH pro I could do it anyway.

Maybe I should just wait until VM is ready to replace it-- like 2 more weeks. Ugh. :mad:

On the other hand, being unreachable is kind of nice too. :cool:

I believe the qsd8250 is basically the dual core version of what the mt has i would have to look it up though to now for sure. Also can you get adb to recognize it? If you can type reboot bootloader i believe and see if it will boot into download mode.
 
I would take it to the guys house that you boaght it from and see if his computer sees it or try and download the the drivers. If the Guy pulled out the file that installs the drivers
But if nothing happens to get to download than idk
I thought this thing was brick proof.:(
 
I would take it to the guys house that you boaght it from and see if his computer sees it or try and download the the drivers. If the Guy pulled out the file that installs the drivers
But if nothing happens to get to download than idk
I thought this thing was brick proof.:(

The fact that QPST recognizes it says something. It still may be possible to get it running just it's gonna take some time and patience.
 
please read this thread. we're currently working on this &quot;qhsusb_dload&quot; brick mode. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522351 any help is appreciated.
 
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