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I was thinking . . .

The other networks are like a super-hot chick that is really vain and superficial. She lures you in with her flashy good looks and glamorous phones (EVO, iPhone) but once you date her you find that she is empty inside and devoid of any coverage.

Verizon, OTOH, is like the fat, ugly chick who washes your clothes, keeps your house clean, gives you back massages, cooks you delicious home-cooked meals and makes sure you never go hungry for 3g coverage. She also tells you to save some space for the rich LTE-flavored 4g pie she made you for dessert. You just have to put a paper bag over her Droid Eris face until you can save up enough money for an Incredible make-over.

Love it.

But the when I save up enough money for the Incredible Make-over, all my friends are having threesomes with their new iphone app that allows dual lines. And their new 4g iphone.
 
VZW is in first place. Their reputation is built on their network, not their device. They can allow other companies to take chances, and copy them when something works.

If the nexus one had gotten released on VZW first, all of those broken screens, multitouch issue, dropping of data connect, etc. would have reflected poorly on VZW, and cost them more money in support issues.

So, from a business standpoint, they have no reason to be cutting edge. They make their money being risk adverse, learning from other's mistakes. They only release something when they know it is safe to.. when it is sure to sell, when the problems are worked out, and when you guys are hungry..

As much as this line of thinking chaps my ass, you are 100% correct. They are a successful company for making business decisions such as these. Hence why CTIA was focused on LTE rollout over anything else.
 
I was thinking . . .

The other networks are like a super-hot chick that is really vain and superficial. She lures you in with her flashy good looks and glamorous phones (EVO, iPhone) but once you date her you find that she is empty inside and devoid of any coverage.

Verizon, OTOH, is like the fat, ugly chick who washes your clothes, keeps your house clean, gives you back massages, cooks you delicious home-cooked meals and makes sure you never go hungry for 3g coverage. She also tells you to save some space for the rich LTE-flavored 4g pie she made you for dessert. You just have to put a paper bag over her Droid Eris face until you can save up enough money for an Incredible make-over.

Well, now, what you have to do is marry the fat chick and get a little something going on the side with the hot chick. :p Or, in mobile terms, get the EVO and convince Verizon to let you register the ESN on their network. That's what we call "best of both worlds".
 
Shortly after the Droid launch, it's a BOGO deal.. Probably because they have way too many Droids to sell and they wanted to clean them out before launching their next phone. It's very possible that the Incredible is a few months away. If it wasn't then why not announce at CTIA even if it's not as good as the EVO 4G, which won't come until Summer? Anyone can design a far superior phone that everyone else's, but the cost and when it becomes available has everything to do with it.

On the other hand, during the first 73 days of sales, more Droids were sold than iPhone's first 73 days of sales. So did they really have THAT many extra Droids laying around to delay the launch of the Incredible? Kind of doesn't make sense either.

Verizon may want to do their own launch without the CTIA springboard. Really, except for geeks like us, who even knows about CTIA, and how much more publicity would it have gotten? The Droid seems to have done fairly well with sales without it.

I think that the Incredible is still in VZW's testing phase, where it could be indefinitely, just like the Android 2.1 update that seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
 
I spoke to VZ Public Relations. They don't like the internet leaks because they say it's not fair to us for this very reason. It gets our hopes up before they are ready to release, before they feel a phone is ready. Good point.
 
I've been hungry on Verizon for 5 years though.

Problem is that the general consumer is not hungry because they are spoon fed all of the crap the carrier can dish. People don't really care about any phone other than the iphone. It's sad but true. If verizon does release the iphone then no one will care about anything else and they will have no reason to release new handsets.
 
Everyone who's talking about emailing higher-up's at VZW, about 3 years ago I filed a (legit) complaint through Planet Feedback and had a call, supposedly from their president's office, within 24 hours. Did the same on behalf of my father about a year later, and got the same response.
 
Bombing twitter accounts and email address is extremely childish, illegal (it is classed as harassment) and discussion and promoting of it in these forums will not be tolerated. First and final warning anyone posting personal details of other people without their permission or trying to encourage other to generate spam will be banned.
 
The first and last phone that i bought in a verizon store with a 2 year contract was the Motorola razr ...and i think verizon was the last to get it as well...

EDIT: Actually it wasn't even in a verizon store...i bought it at BestBuy for $200 with a 2 year contract like the day after it was released.
 
Well, now, what you have to do is marry the fat chick and get a little something going on the side with the hot chick. :p Or, in mobile terms, get the EVO and convince Verizon to let you register the ESN on their network. That's what we call "best of both worlds".

It'll never work. Cheaters never prosper. At least the fat chick will take you back. :D
 
I was thinking . . .

The other networks are like a super-hot chick that is really vain and superficial. She lures you in with her flashy good looks and glamorous phones (EVO, iPhone) but once you date her you find that she is empty inside and devoid of any coverage.

Verizon, OTOH, is like the fat, ugly chick who washes your clothes, keeps your house clean, gives you back massages, cooks you delicious home-cooked meals and makes sure you never go hungry for 3g coverage. She also tells you to save some space for the rich LTE-flavored 4g pie she made you for dessert. You just have to put a paper bag over her Droid Eris face until you can save up enough money for an Incredible make-over.

In that scenario, I've been married for 14 years and my eyes are starting to wander.
 
Bombing twitter accounts and email address is extremely childish, illegal (it is classed as harassment) and discussion and promoting of it in these forums will not be tolerated. First and final warning anyone posting personal details of other people without their permission or trying to encourage other to generate spam will be banned.

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Everyone who's talking about emailing higher-up's at VZW, about 3 years ago I filed a (legit) complaint through Planet Feedback and had a call, supposedly from their president's office, within 24 hours. Did the same on behalf of my father about a year later, and got the same response.

I can see a VZW user getting response to a legit complaint. That said, the chances on a useful response to a request for more info on a strong internet rumor might be a long shot :(

In that scenario, I've been married for 14 years and my eyes are starting to wander.

lol. Me too. Android is the real attraction here, and I'm going from a dumb phone to an Android very soon. I'd settle for the N1, but the Inc is giving me the wood.
 
Bombing twitter accounts and email address is extremely childish, illegal (it is classed as harassment) and discussion and promoting of it in these forums will not be tolerated. First and final warning anyone posting personal details of other people without their permission or trying to encourage other to generate spam will be banned.
I wouldn't classify it was spam. If we send e-mails simply stating that we are interested in rumored new phones and asking if we might get some more information on said phones, that's hardly harassment. That's a legitimate query.
 
So, from a business standpoint, they have no reason to be cutting edge. They make their money being risk adverse, learning from other's mistakes. They only release something when they know it is safe to.. when it is sure to sell, when the problems are worked out, and when you guys are hungry..

The problem is that the technology pace has picked up such that this strategy results in new releases with dated hardware. It has become more apparent in the past year or so as the smartphone concept is taking off, and I think the frustration you read on here is representative of the general customer base, mostly angst over the "no iphone" issue. However, I will counter your initial comment about not needing to be cutting edge. They're pushing out LTE on a very tight and rapid schedule which clearly indicates a strategy to be ahead of the curve. At the going rate, they will pass Sprint/WiMax in about 18 months and AT&T hasn't begun to plan for LTE yet. Now, they just need to speed up their phone testing/release process.
 
I was thinking . . .

The other networks are like a super-hot chick that is really vain and superficial. She lures you in with her flashy good looks and glamorous phones (EVO, iPhone) but once you date her you find that she is empty inside and devoid of any coverage.

Verizon, OTOH, is like the fat, ugly chick who washes your clothes, keeps your house clean, gives you back massages, cooks you delicious home-cooked meals and makes sure you never go hungry for 3g coverage. She also tells you to save some space for the rich LTE-flavored 4g pie she made you for dessert. You just have to put a paper bag over her Droid Eris face until you can save up enough money for an Incredible make-over.

Holy crap, now that is comedy!!
 
we all bash Apple..... But at least iPhone users know when to expect an update to either:

1. The OS/Software
2. The hardware

1 a year during the summer. That's not guranteed, but they have kept consistent.
 
FWIW

@VZWoffers I'm really considering moving to another carrier. EVERY other carrier has announced next gen android. What about you !?!

VZWOffers

@MarceloPomeranz Hey Marcelo, we'd hate to see you leave ... you want Android phones? You will get them :-)


Take it for what its worth. We keep seeing these open ended promises.
 
I spoke to VZ Public Relations. They don't like the internet leaks because they say it's not fair to us for this very reason. It gets our hopes up before they are ready to release, before they feel a phone is ready. Good point.

True. But with other carriers making legitimate advance announcements, what you are left with is silence from Verizon for 5 months and counting. Without hope, there's nothing and that sends people out the door. I still don't think the PR folks "get" the big picture. This isn't 1995.
 
I know this is pro android, but if I had to pick a phone right now from their current lineup, I think I'd go with the Omnia II. I could see the Incredible not being out by the 15th, but I can't imagine that the N1 won't be available by then.

Just what I'd go with.

You must have never ever used the Omnia II before. It is one of the worst devices that I've ever used. Everything about it is extremly slow. I used mine for one day, and it's still in the box in my bedroom lol. Fortunately, I got it free to review.
 
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