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***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

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QrafTee said:
You won't fill up a current phone with apps because no one is going to develop a memory-hogging app for a phone that cannot support it. Remember that the Android is a fractured market so a develop needs to consider lowest denominator developing--and not to mention that even the higher-end Android phones have roughly the same amount of limited on-board memory (256-512MB). It makes completely no sense for a developer to develop an app that potentially takes up virtually all the space in their userbase's devices (imagine a game like The Sims 3 which takes up 6GB of HDD being released at a time where people normally had 10GB HDDs).
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Just stop. My company sells an android and iphone app that takes up 2-3 GB on disk. The only thing that goes on the phone is the exe. Everything else is installed on the SD card. Our exe is 8MB and is huge in terms of mobile apps. That 8MB includes about 700,000 lines of code compiled. I would say 99% of the apps on the iphone and android market are easily under 500KB. You will not run out of app storage on android even if you only have 256MB to fill.

In fact we get more complaints from iphone users because we take up so much internal space.
 
Frodark said:
Ok this is my first post but there is a trend I'm noticing here so I figured I would point something out.
Oh yeah, I used to be a VZW CSR...for what its worth

While I dont know about the stores, I would assume they are close to the same. The Call Centers get training for a device at most 24-48 hours before release. When the Palm Pre Plus came out I walked in to work the day it was released and told to go to training. There is no point in asking VZW reps about the device until something is released. If they have any info it will be from here.

Also if they do have info the CSRs should not tell you. Each call is recorded. If they give out info before the release date they are fired. Do you really think they would risk their job just so you can have info on a phone.

While I'm not going to tell long time posters how to do things. But really, calling a Call Center or asking anyone lower than a district rep or a tester will not get you any leaks so why keep trying.

Wait for people who have access to the info to give it to you instead of wasting your time calling people that really dont know any more than you do(and most times know less about the newest devices)

Ok /rant
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No rants here. Thanks for sharing your perspective:)
 
I have come to the conclusion that VZW sales reps are not very knowledgeable about their phones. They do the 15 day training to learn the basics only. I think just about every member on this forum knows more than them, and could easily work at the stores and sell more phones than their reps.

Anyone looking for a job???
 
woodraskam said:
Some new findings about the video capture capabilities of the Incredible.

I found some kind of data dump from the inc, and then I found one for the Eris. I tried to compare the two, and I found something quite interesting.

Now we're all hoping we're gonna get 720p video from the Inc, and this portion found in the Incredible dump makes me much more confident that we will.
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Good job man! You are really getting your Z3r0C00| on huh!
 
While perusing the freshly-minted ***Unofficial Motorola Shadow*** thread a bit ago, I couldn't help but notice that there's a handful of regulars who have been posting here for a while, but who are now pausing to consider holding out a little while longer to see if and when the Shadow makes its way onto VZW, as is widely assumed to be the case. It's inevitable that with every passing day without an official release date announced for the Incredible, more and more people will do the same thing. They'll consider other options that are coming up soon. It's the "new-ship-on-the-horizon" syndrome. Verizon and HTC really need to either sh*t or get off the pot. Today's fiercely competitive wireless market waits for no one!
 
Montana Man said:
While perusing the freshly-minted ***Unofficial Motorola Shadow*** thread a bit ago, I couldn't help but notice that there's a handful of regulars who have been posting here for a while, but who are now pausing to consider holding out a little while longer to see if and when the Shadow makes its way onto VZW, as is widely assumed to be the case. It's inevitable that with every passing day without an official release date announced for the Incredible, more and more people will do the same thing. They'll consider other options that are coming up soon. It's the "new-ship-on-the-horizon" syndrome. Verizon and HTC really need to either sh*t or get off the pot. Today's fiercely competitive wireless market waits for no one!
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Therein lies the problem with vzw. I purchased the storm one expecting wonderful things but was soon dissatisfied- low and behold I hear they are working on the Storm 2 so I wait anxiously perusing the forums at crackberry for release info and leaks. So finally out it comes but then we hear of droid and eris hmmmm maybe I'll wait for them. Disappointed with the overall form factor with the droid I start to consider the Eris. While researching the Eris I hear of the Nexus 1, while researching the Nexus 1 I stumble across the Incredible, Its a never ending cycle!!!!!!!!!!!There is always something better looming on the horizon.:o:confused::rolleyes::eek:
 
Montana Man said:
While perusing the freshly-minted ***Unofficial Motorola Shadow*** thread a bit ago, I couldn't help but notice that there's a handful of regulars who have been posting here for a while, but who are now pausing to consider holding out a little while longer to see if and when the Shadow makes its way onto VZW, as is widely assumed to be the case. It's inevitable that with every passing day without an official release date announced for the Incredible, more and more people will do the same thing. They'll consider other options that are coming up soon. It's the "new-ship-on-the-horizon" syndrome. Verizon and HTC really need to either sh*t or get off the pot. Today's fiercely competitive wireless market waits for no one!
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Yup I'm one of those people, if the Incredible doesn't come out next month I'll just wait until the Shadow comes out most likely, I highly doubt VZW is going to let Sprint release the EVO and get the Nexus One while it still tries to sell people the Droid... hell people are even buying the HD2 on T-mobile.
 
I'm not pausing to consider the Shadow. I'm taking a step away from this thread until there is something of substance to talk about.
 
Sisaacs said:
While researching the Eris I hear of the Nexus 1, while researching the Nexus 1 I stumble across the Incredible, Its a never ending cycle!!!!!!!!!!!There is always something better looming on the horizon.:o:confused::rolleyes::eek:
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Dont forget about the HTC Scorpion. :p
 
drhill said:
Just stop. My company sells an android and iphone app that takes up 2-3 GB on disk. The only thing that goes on the phone is the exe. Everything else is installed on the SD card. Our exe is 8MB and is huge in terms of mobile apps. That 8MB includes about 700,000 lines of code compiled. I would say 99% of the apps on the iphone and android market are easily under 500KB. You will not run out of app storage on android even if you only have 256MB to fill.

In fact we get more complaints from iphone users because we take up so much internal space.
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That's a shame, so you're saying if Street Fighter IV comes out on Android that it'd just install the .exe in on-board memory and save the rest of the files to an SD card which can range from Class 2 to Class 6 (or Class 10) which may cripple the game? Yeah, I can see more complex apps doing what "your company" does.
 
As for release name this might give a little more weight towards a name change to something other than Incredible.

Eris's info
  1. [ro.product.model]: [Eris]
  2. [ro.product.brand]: [verizon]
  3. [ro.product.name]: [htc_desirec]
  4. [ro.product.device]: [desirec]
  5. [ro.product.board]: [desirec]
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Incredible's info
  1. ro.product.model=ADR6300
  2. ro.product.brand=verizon
  3. ro.product.name=inc
  4. ro.product.device=inc
  5. ro.product.board=inc
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So it looks like they're using the ADR6300 as the placeholder for the actual name, and it will always will be known in code as the incredible, but will release with a different name. Just like the Eris will always be known in its source code as the desire.
 
QrafTee said:
That's a shame, so you're saying if Street Fighter IV comes out on Android that it'd just install the .exe in on-board memory and save the rest of the files to an SD card which can range from Class 2 to Class 6 (or Class 10) which may cripple the game? Yeah, I can see more complex apps doing what "your company" does.
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This is considered best practice on almost all development platforms.

[And Class 10 is only theoretical at this point. (I believe) I'm wrong ;) on this account]








 
Sisaacs said:
Disappointed with the overall form factor with the droid I start to consider the Eris. While researching the Eris I hear of the Nexus 1, while researching the Nexus 1, I stumble across the Incredible...
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The above cycle is the exact same one that I went through! I am 100% convinced that I will look no further than the Incredible though!!

...unless that Shadow looks promising.... :rolleyes:
 
woodraskam said:
So it looks like they're using the ADR6300 as the placeholder for the actual name, and it will always will be known in code as the incredible, but will release with a different name. Just like the Eris will always be known in its source code as the desire.
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Excellent find, Wood! I still have a hell of a hunch that it will NOT be called the Incredible upon release. I mean - HTC has always changed the name upon release, haven't they? Are there any examples where HTC has kept the same name for a number of months and then held fast to that same name upon release? If anyone knows of any, I'd sure like to know! :) Thanks!
 
Switching to verizon tomorrow; plan on getting the droid or a bb curve to see if the incredible comes out before the 30 day period? do yall recomend this?
 
Montana Man said:
The above cycle is the exact same one that I went through! I am 100% convinced that I will look no further than the Incredible though!!

...unless that Shadow looks promising.... :rolleyes:
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I was RIGHT with you ... Until about 2 days ago :D

Mostly because it seems like it could still be a possibility EVEN if I started with the Incredible. If the Incredible comes out Mid April and the Shadow is released in June, you could run with the Inc for a month, return it and go back to an old phone, and a month later get the Shadow.

The only concern I have is that the Shadow could get pushed back time after time like the Incredible has. But based on the reassurance of some of the guys at HF, I have a SMALL amount of confidence in a June release.

Bottom line, if the Incredible is the phone I "SETTLE" for ... I'm a happy man :D
 
GlowingMoose said:
This is considered best practice on almost all development platforms.

[And Class 10 is only theoretical at this point. (I believe) I'm wrong ;) on this account]
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Kingston Technology Company - Flash Memory - microSDHC (High Capacity) Card

It may be the best practice, but it has its flaws. MicroSD cards have slower rates than on-board flash memory. Developers will have to keep these limitations in mind as to not upset their potential customers. A user with a Class 2 MicroSD card may incur crashes, slow downs, or other errors while someone with a Class 4, 6, or 10 MicroSD card would use the app as intended by the developer.
 
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