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Root Do we have to donate or start a petition to get rom manager compatible with are phone.

I think he means "he wants rom manager to work with our admire so i would be alot easier to install clockwork mod recovery without using odin"
Personally i think it would be awesome if our recovery is in rom manager ...because for the new users of the admire they wont have to go through the "whole odin process" to install the recovery then start modding ;)
 
Im just sick and tired of problems with cache.on some rom I flash and store errors I think it would be awesome if we could just flash roms and not have to worry about this stuff...
 
ok ill try to explain this as best as possible.

Rom Manager support would be useless.
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for you to flash and install CWM without using odin - except you have to have root in order to flash cwm via rom manager, how are you getting that on the newest update? right by flashing cwm via odin and then using it to root.

to download roms - in order for you to download roms you need to have devs who wrote a javascript file to point rom manager to the location/names of your roms. if you dont have anyone doing that... well then you arent downloaidng any roms.

cwm is a hacked up build since koush never bothered to work with the samsung style of how things are done, on newer high end samsung devices (and a lot of midrange) its done more of teh AOSP format and thus has support, this is not one of those phones. we tried to get cwm made official in fact sugilatin even approached koush and found a way to fix it all, and was denied.

ergo there is no speeding up, you guys will never be part of cwm officially. the only benefit it would offer is then it could detect the phone and pop up so people would stop bricking their phones. which rom manager isnt at fault for, people click flash recovery and pick a device willy nilly and claim its their phone...

you want to download roms on the go have your devs apply at goo.im to host their roms there
 
Shabbypenguin said:
ok ill try to explain this as best as possible.

Rom Manager support would be useless.
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for you to flash and install CWM without using odin - except you have to have root in order to flash cwm via rom manager, how are you getting that on the newest update? right by flashing cwm via odin and then using it to root.

to download roms - in order for you to download roms you need to have devs who wrote a javascript file to point rom manager to the location/names of your roms. if you dont have anyone doing that... well then you arent downloaidng any roms.

cwm is a hacked up build since koush never bothered to work with the samsung style of how things are done, on newer high end samsung devices (and a lot of midrange) its done more of teh AOSP format and thus has support, this is not one of those phones. we tried to get cwm made official in fact sugilatin even approached koush and found a way to fix it all, and was denied.

ergo there is no speeding up, you guys will never be part of cwm officially. the only benefit it would offer is then it could detect the phone and pop up so people would stop bricking their phones. which rom manager isnt at fault for, people click flash recovery and pick a device willy nilly and claim its their phone...

you want to download roms on the go have your devs apply at goo.im to host their roms there
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Thank you very much shabby....answer to my question. Thanks again
 
Gonna come back from the dead for about five seconds to explain why (in technical detail) I couldn't get Koush to include the Admire in Rom Manager.

For a port of CWM to be available for installation through Rom Manager, it needs to be able to be compiled from sources merged into the CWM tree. Unfortunatly, the method in which CWM supports RFS in the official tree is an ARMv7 binary which is incompatible with our phone which is ARMv6. In order for my CWM port to format RFS, I used the binary from the stock recovery ("fat.format") which is hard-linked to a binary called "linker" in /system/bin. On the stock recovery/rom, you cannot format /system, so the stock RFS format binary always expects /system to be mounted. In order for me to get RFS formatting to work, I had to put the "linker" binary on the initramfs next to the kernel on the recovery partition under /system/bin. This is very kludgy and scared off Koush because of initial fears that having /system contain files could break multiple things.

In any case, further development has been halted because I broke the phone's NAND and can no longer access /cache or /data due to bad blocks. I've got the poor thing running off the SD card completely. I'm still not asking for donations but I can gladly do a search for the sources I used for someone else to continue development.
 
SuigintouLain said:
Gonna come back from the dead for about five seconds to explain why (in technical detail) I couldn't get Koush to include the Admire in Rom Manager.

For a port of CWM to be available for installation through Rom Manager, it needs to be able to be compiled from sources merged into the CWM tree. Unfortunatly, the method in which CWM supports RFS in the official tree is an ARMv7 binary which is incompatible with our phone which is ARMv6. In order for my CWM port to format RFS, I used the binary from the stock recovery ("fat.format") which is hard-linked to a binary called "linker" in /system/bin. On the stock recovery/rom, you cannot format /system, so the stock RFS format binary always expects /system to be mounted. In order for me to get RFS formatting to work, I had to put the "linker" binary on the initramfs next to the kernel on the recovery partition under /system/bin. This is very kludgy and scared off Koush because of initial fears that having /system contain files could break multiple things.

In any case, further development has been halted because I broke the phone's NAND and can no longer access /cache or /data due to bad blocks. I've got the poor thing running off the SD card completely. I'm still not asking for donations but I can gladly do a search for the sources I used for someone else to continue development.
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Good to hear from you Sui ....
Its been so long lol but can i ask you a question...
Can touch recovery work for the admire ...because i see it working for the zte score lol and i know for sure that our specs are way better than the zte score... ;)
 
Killah1994 said:
Good to hear from you Sui ....
Its been so long lol but can i ask you a question...
Can touch recovery work for the admire ...because i see it working for the zte score lol and i know for sure that our specs are way better than the zte score... ;)
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The zte score is mtd (easy peasy shyt and not to mention 'was' the standard b4 emmc/ext4)) and not the bs samsung uses called rfs. I built the CWM for the score and score m (amoung many others) and I will flat tell you the touch version looks like pure d garbage on it. Its resolution is all funky, font too big and its using the smallest font available in the CWM src. Point of all that is, you cant always judge a android device on limited knowledge of its hardware, there are alot more factors involved than the majority of users have a 1/10 of a clue about.;)

Not to mention, the CWM Touch per builder.clockworkmod.com needs a ICS kernel. Now yes many device still running a GB kernel (2.6) have Touch available, but thats the luck of the draw. And I wil ladd req said he has built CWM touch for the Admire, but it no workie right and since he doesnt have access to the source for the touch binary, no hackery can be done to make it work.

So add all that up and you get.... no official CWM nor Touch for the Admire. Sorry but thats how it goes some times.

Oh and no, the Admire specs arent that much better than the Scores, better I believe is true, not by friggin much tho. ;)


And Sui, get your ass back in IRC!!!! ;)
 
just want to throw this out there.... i think people having to use the odin process shows them a hint of what all you dev's do for us users... Odin gets you a little familiar with phones and rooting... if you cant do ODIN you dont need a rooted phone... just saying...

We dont need Rom Manager...

This is the ERA of Technology... Its only gonna get more advanced from here... Either catch up or we'll leave you behind... Zoom Zoom. ;)
 
Spikebob21 said:
just want to throw this out there.... i think people having to use the odin process shows them a hint of what all you dev's do for us users... Odin gets you a little familiar with phones and rooting... if you cant do ODIN you dont need a rooted phone... just saying...

We dont need Rom Manager...

This is the ERA of Technology... Its only gonna get more advanced from here... Either catch up or we'll leave you behind... Zoom Zoom. ;)
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Well in many ways i think of that too ;)
 
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Spikebob21 said:
just want to throw this out there.... i think people having to use the odin process shows them a hint of what all you dev's do for us users... Odin gets you a little familiar with phones and rooting... if you cant do ODIN you dont need a rooted phone... just saying...

We dont need Rom Manager...

This is the ERA of Technology... Its only gonna get more advanced from here... Either catch up or we'll leave you behind... Zoom Zoom. ;)
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actually ODIN is a a unnecessary cheat, but does come in handy with samsung devices. Some claim it can be used with other manufacturers, but no one has yet to show me the first one other than a samsung that it works with.

Every Android device should be like the Nexus devices, its a choice to unlock it, root it, do what you will with it.

But thats a pipe dream lol
 
PlayfulGod said:
actually ODIN is a a unnecessary cheat, but does come in handy with samsung devices. Some claim it can be used with other manufacturers, but no one has yet to show me the first one other than a samsung that it works with.

Every Android device should be like the Nexus devices, its a choice to unlock it, root it, do what you will with it.

But thats a pipe dream lol
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how is it unnecessary? its the only way to root many samsung devices
 
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