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Root Stock vs. Custom Revocery

Paraflier

Paraflier

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At the risk of getting a stern talking to.... What's the difference? I have tried searching and can find hits regarding either stock recovery, or a custom recovery, but what would be the reasoning to use one over the other? :confused:

:: Ducks for cover::
 
To clarify....

Instead of taking some apps ... say... rom manager and using clockwork mod recovery to get to the recovery screen where I can navigate to make a nandroid backup, wouldn't I be able jo do the exact same thing by using the correct button combo to reboot into recovery, then (same as above) navigating to make the nandroid?

Is the app add custom recovery "touch screen get to recovery" simply a convenience item? Or is it necessary to do it that way?

Just trying to back up my stuff here. Seems like too many steps... rom toolbox pro to rom manager to custom recovery to reboot. :confused:
 
Look into installing safestrap, it'll give you the option to boot into recovery every time your phone boots up. I think it's the best custom recovery right now.
 
Thanks for the replies. :-)

Ok... I'll do some homework on safe strap now.... but ... aside from being able to boot to recovery easier via app, what is the reasoning for using there custom recoveries as opposed to doing it the old fashioned "volume power" way?

I don't mean to be so dense, the answer is probably simple, I'm just not seeing it. Lol
 
Okay, I see where your going now, a custom recovery allows you to make a NANDROID (full backup) of your phone and you need root to do that. Verizon's stock recovery doesn't.
The reason you have to use Safestrap to get what is basically clockwork custom recovery on the bionic is because the bootloader is locked.
 
Ahhh! As in you can get to safe strap just by booting! Where as boot strap needs the phone to fully boot up in order to GET to the OPTION of recovery! :thumbup:
 
The stock recover - which is include with the phone, and why it is referred to as stock - has basic functionality that allows a user to do some basic troubleshooting things, such as wiping all user data from the phone, as well as the ability to install updates provided by Motorola (and cryptographically signed by Motorola, to make sure that the update is official). A custom recovery, such as ClockworkMod Recovery or Safestrap, allows a user who has installed an exploit to allow root user access to the phone to do far more functions than the stock Recovery allows, such as nandroid backups and restores (think of them as exact snapshots of your phone's software and user apps and data than can be restored to bring the phone back to the state that it was at the time the backup was run), as well as installing custom software for the phone that are not necessarily cryptographically signed by Motorola - i.e., custom ROMs.
 
Paraflier said:
The hash of codes site is great, but one thing...

When I follow the link to download the safe strap apk, the file is named Bionic Safe Strap ICS. And, surprise, surprise, didn't work on my old GB. just an FYI to anyone else trying the same steps. I'm gmgdg to hunt down one that works for Bionic GB. I'll put the link to it here when I find it?

Lord knows I've asked enough questions. If I can contribute something useful, I'll do it in a second. Lol
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Did you root the phone first? Then one needs to be rooted before safestrap will install the bootstrap and custom recovery.
 
You can download versions of Bootstrap that boot into recovery every time.

I still use bootstrap in this fashion, however I don't recommend it b/c you can screw your phone up a LOT easier.
 
Just re downloaded the Safestrap to be sure it wasn't operator error the first time.

First I deleted the Safestrap I downloaded (but could not install) earlier. Followed the link above. Downloaded "BionicSafestrap-ICS-2.11.apk".

Did an "install after scan" via Lookout.

The message, "There is a problem parsing the package" came up with "ok" as the only option. :confused:
 
Paraflier said:
Yup. Rooted. But didn't the instructions say safestrap OR bootstrap? That both = bad?
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Sorry - I guess I should have explained. Safestrap includes both a bootstrap and a custom recovery. You cannot install Safestrap and Koush's bootstrap at the same time - that is bad - but Safestrap still has its own bootstrap.

It's good to see that you have it solved, though.
 
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