***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

[dmb_droid41]

I hit about 2.5 GB once. I did that by tethering my HTC Touch to my laptop and watching a bit of Hulu. IMO, you'd really have to try to hit the 5 GB cap on the phone alone, but once you tether (legally or not), but it's not hard at all if you tether.

Thanks man. Yeah I figured. I'm thinking just surfing the web, watching some youtube, and streaming pandora. It would be difficult to hit that cap.

 

[EgoDogg]

This will be my first smart phone also! - i decided to get one since I got my new job. You make a very good point too. I think there's an app that will automatically connect to wifi when detected.

It's just a matter of waiting, and it makes it even harder when you're just waiting on your first smartphone. That app will definitely be a nice one to have. Wouldn't even think of looking for one. Thanks for pointing that out - at least to check for it

 

[JMKosmo]

On 3/2 I received an email from a real Verizon employee letting me know that I could use my NE2. I emailed him back and told him I was waiting for the Incredible. He said no information was available and no release date. I let it slide. Well, tonight I just got another email from the dude. This time I wrote him a stern reply basically saying don't bother me unless it;s news about the Incredible and that if it takes them too long, I'm just going to go to Sprint. Oddly enough, my response was similar to Misterdoop's email to Verizon, posted above! Waiting for a response now.

 

[dm33]

Has anyone here come close to the 5GB cap? If so what were you doing daily to reach that? Just want to know how worried I should be about going over. Seems like it would take a lot though. Thanks.

I usually run about 1GB/mo w my iPhone. And its almost exclusively using WiFi because I don't get 3G coverage from ATT in many places.

If I were on Verizon and I could actually use 3G, I could easily reach 5GB.

Mostly watching videos. I haven't figured out how to watch video podcasts on my G1. Hopefully its better on the Incredible/N1. One nightly news is ~200MB, so watch a few of those and you've hit 1GB.

 

[Flaring Afro]

Huh, you mean someone will still be waiting for the N1 2 months after the INC has been out

I agree. There's only 1 reason why you would buy an N1 over an Incredible: Appearance preferences. But then you have to deal with google if you have a problem, etc while with the incredible you could just walk in a store and come out with another phone.

Some people will say the N1 will receive updates faster, but google has already announced they are changing how they update so manufacturers don't have to update their user interfaces meaning everyone gets it at the same time.

 

[Sisaacs]

I usually run about 1GB/mo w my iPhone. And its almost exclusively using WiFi because I don't get 3G coverage from ATT in many places.

If I were on Verizon and I could actually use 3G, I could easily reach 5GB.

Mostly watching videos. I haven't figured out how to watch video podcasts on my G1. Hopefully its better on the Incredible/N1. One nightly news is ~200MB, so watch a few of those and you've hit 1GB.

I may be wrong here but I was under the impression that it is unlimited data on your phone and that the 5G limit only applies to tethering. Though that is why it is called the unlimited data plan

 

[powdbyrice]

Alright, heres even more info, facts, and clarification.

The test device for the HTC Incredible is going to the VZW Council. Apparently, phones get sent to them for testing BEFORE!!! release. The VZW council should be getting them anytime this week and release will be very very very soon after.

Interesting note, the VZW iPhone is looking to come sometime in the SUMMER, much earlier than the expected end of the year december date.

This is all from an Admin who has never failed and gets these memo's etc...about the devices before any of us and before they are released.

He said from a message two months ago that VZW wanted to sell the Nexus One in-store but google said no. Then the HTC Incredible came along and VZW went with that phone instead so they could sell it in-store.

Anyhows, looks like confirmation that the phone is coming this month. He said he will give me a date when he gets more info but all he knows is that final test devices are being given to VZW council sometime this week and the N1 is coming in June.

good lookin out.

cautiously optimistic...

 

[SamMax]

I may be wrong here but I was under the impression that it is unlimited data on your phone and that the 5G limit only applies to tethering. Though that is why it is called the umlimited data plan

That's what Verizon told me.

 

[viperboy]

I think this is a very valid point. The thing is, people want cool phones. Period. We live in a day and age where a phone should be super fast, super smooth and sexy to boot. However, there are zero options that fit these criteria in the dumbphone range, so you can see why people want the form factor of a smartphone without the $30/month cost of always being connected. If I could use my phone on wi-fi and have it double as a decent size screen PMP and video player too, that's all I'd need. (And also the potential point of saying that smartphones require data plans because they are more expensive due to these features doesn't hold water either because the cost of ownership of a smartphone over its life is light years higher than the retail cost between dumbphones and smartphones).

Basically, telling someone they need a data plan for a smartphone is like saying you can't buy a laptop without 3G.

I guess you don't understand that Android phones, for example, use background data. Sure it can be disabled, but from VzW's perspective, it's not going to be a good customer experience when people forget to disable it and run up a huge bill and than not get a credit for it.

sigh... I feel like Verizon is stuck in time and everybody else is movin along

Guess what... that's how forum people are on every network. "OMGGGGG Verizon got the Droid. I can't believe that ATT only got the Backflip. UGHHHH My life is over, someone please comfort me."

Im just gonna say, if VZW doesn't release this thing like now. They are digging themselves a hole. Apple to have the iPhone event in 3 days is going to stir up a TON of news and followers, Microsoft is having an event April 12th which can be anything special, Winows phone 7, natal, etc....

VZW GET THIS THING OUT ALREADY BEFORE YOU KILL YOURSELF!!!

Did you ever stop and think that customers aren't supposed to know about phones this far in advance? This is exactly why. They will release it when it's ready. You would be complaining just as much if they rushed to release it and it had a ton of problems. Than everyone would bitch that the phone was rushed and blah blah blah.

Even though nobody here really wants to hear this, I can think of no other place where anyone would understand the significance and disappointment of the thought which occurred to me sometime in the middle of last night.

What if the "2nd Android Phone" on the calendar is the Saygus VPhone and not my Incredible?

The thought alone is punishment enough so no need to shoot me.

I don't know where people think we are getting that phone. I have heard nothing about it. I am not the be all end all, but people that would know what is and isn't coming out haven't mentioned it to me.

No, they want to be able to choose between convenience of having 3G availability for $30 a month ($360 a year before taxes, and fees), or using the data only when they have Wifi available, which for some people may be 98% of the time that they are using their phone.

Why must we be forced something that should be optional?

Again, background data. You pay to play, basically.

This is in reference to all the reports about the Incredibles sitting in inventory at VZW warehouse. If these reports are true, VZW routinely releases ALL new phones (usually smartphones) to B2B (business to business) customers first. B2B customers have a minimum of 50 phones under contract and they will get first shot at any Incredibles before regular customers. This is not advertised anywhere and notices are sent directly to these business customers.

B2B channel will not be getting these first.

I agree there should be a choice for everything like the other networks.. t-mobile has some smart phones that do not have to have data but I've not seen this on verizon..

Oh yeah, the Pearl Flip, Pearl, and Wing were just awesome phones that didn't require data. I worked there, all the phones after that required data.

The screen shot shows 150K+ units in 'On Order' status.
Given that the screen shot is kosher, it is not clear that they are shipped from HTC and in a VZW warehouse. Its possible that they are awaiting shipment from HTC subject to clearing some final test and/or final release software build. We have seen Android builds specifically for VZW/HTC Inc as recently as March24. NKT & I agreed that this may mean they have not yet shipped.

The frustration here is that we are dealing with a raft of dubious data which suggests a lot but confirms very little. Bottom line is we don't have anything solid to predict a release data, but all the signs are there that something is coming soon[ish].

That is not a VzW system, so I'm not sure where that screenshot would have come from, for the record.

Verizon simply doesn't care about you or us. They have more than enough support from corporate business phone plans that everyday users are just surplus income for them. Our needs of an Android device comes in a meager 3rd place compared to getting business devices like BBs.

If users would start leaving Verizon for other carriers they MIGHT get some kind of hint, but as long as they have the whole "we're the best network in America" mentality, nothing will change.

Ever hear of the iPhone? People left. Ok....... and? Guess who is still the largest carrier in the US? It's not all about the phones to some people.

I think its because they depend on the data package to cover the cost of the phone subsidy.

/business background talking.

Of course it is. Do you know what VzW looses when you buy a BB at a 2yr price? Over $300 dollars. Yes, they are going to get that back.

I just barely got my 2.1 upgrade from Verizon last night...Verizon moves at the speed of smell

They roll it out slowly so if there is a problem, they aren't dealing with 500,000+ bricked devices.

So I'm at the VZW store now typing on an Eris. Very tempted to walk out with it. I NEED A FIX!!!

I wouldn't, the joke is on you. Kinda like the guy who stole the Rival in our store. He was probably pissed

Why don't you overclock it to 1.1ghz using that custom kernel/ROM. It's completely stable from what i've heard.

Ya know the DROID can be just as fast as Snapdragon/faster right?

That's how my Droid is setup. Freakin' moves!

I almost did over the weekend. My BB 8330 keeps freezing and rebooting multiple times a day . It wouldn't be so bad but the thing takes a good 8 minutes to reboot. The doofus' in my local vzw "authorized" retailer couldn't get their story straight about the Incredible. One denied existence and was pushing the Droid. The other overhears us talking about the Incredible and rushes over to say, "oh yeah, that thing is gonna be GREAT!". The guy pushing the droid could have punched him and probably did after i said i would wait and left. Vz keeps holding on to this thing while the world is passing by... Apple is announcing their 4G technology and Moto is up to something as well. I'm as hopeful as most of you guys but I'm starting to experience an little "incredible fatigue". Maybe some good news will come out today to lift our spirits. Let's go already.

They're an indirect store, they don't have real techs and they're not kept in the loop like the Corporate stores are.

the HTC- DoestMatterAnyMore since everyones leaving Verizon for other carriers who care about bringing new devices to their customers in a timely manner.

Again, you guys make a big deal about a phone you shouldn't even know about yet. They will bring it once it's been tested and working how they want it to be working.

Yes but it updated about 10 minutes after I first turned it on so I had 2.01 for that brief period of time. The phone itself is pretty nice.

I haven't noticed any lag but I also use Advanced Task Killer every time I close out an app or task so that really helps. I also am not using live wallpapers (who cares) but the touchscreen works really well. The pinch to zoom works really good as well and the onscreen keyboard isn't half bad either.

I have Lotus Notes at work (for now) but once we go Outlook next month it will have everything I need. I am still getting the Incredible and I am prepared to return this on day 27 in order to get my NE2 and other stuff back. I am happy that I did it.

Don't forget about the restocking fee.

Do you think there will be a way to play Pandora from the Incredible thru the car stereo?

Yes, it will have a 3.5mm headset jack.

I'm almost convinced the device doesn't exist...Verizon is letting little tidbits out about some kind of device that never made the cut just so their name will stay in the media during the iPad release and other carriers devices.

Yea, everything you have seen so far was made up... no, a JOKE that VzW decided to waste their time on just for fun. Tinfoil hat much?

Armbar, you got 2.1 on your Eris? I bought Motorola Droid (tired of waiting) and did an immediate update to 2.1, but didn't realize I could have gotten it for Eris too. I might want to switch if the 30 days pass and no Incredible.

2.1 on the Eris is only if you hack it, at the moment. Again, restocking fee as well for you too if you switch.

Why would you switch the DROID for the Eris??

The Eris screen is tinyy and it's slow/outdated specs. Keep your DROID, you won't regret it in the long run, Flash player support etc....and if you root it/overclock it to 1.1ghz, you will be happy that it's just as fast as Snapdragon if not faster since the GPU is still a lot better than snapdragons AMD one.

+1

Only problem with this is Verizon dosen't have 4g and never will!!!!!

Wrong, that's what LTE will be. That's our 4G.

The tech support guy at VZ told me that wimax (sprint) is not truly 4g. it is 3.5 g. Don't yell at me that's what he told me or possibly was told to tell me.

Technically, it is 4G, it's just going to be significantly slower than our 4G.

if this phone turns out to be the saygus vphone.... well... you won't wanna be around me. Dad's gonna be on on the warpath for sure.

It's not.

Here are 2 phones rumored to launch in April for Verizon

Samsung Reality SCH-U820 April 30th
LG VS750 April ?

Upcoming Verizon phones (Phone Arena)

That's a semi-good list

Actually, I heard that they MIGHT- keyword MIGHT- start giving customers the option of either the $10 data plan or the $10 texting plan- one or the other would have to be required- on the multimedia phones, because of the backlash regarding the data plan requirements.. Nothing concrete yet, but i wouldnt be surprised..

Doubtful. Haven't heard anything about it either. And since they have the Talk and Text plans, they're not going to say oh just drop the data since you have unlimited text. Not gonna happen.

Just fyi... My verizon source told me today that as of the 18th of this month any return or exchange to verizon will result in a 35 dollar restocking fee... even if you cancel your service all together within that 30 days! that kinda sucks...

That is correct. However, we have had the policy that if you completely cancel within 30 days, you pay for what you used for a while. This is gonna suck for people who order their device online to try it out before activation and than return it.

What do you want to bet that Verizon does indeed read these boards, and with everyone talking about buying other Android devices then returning them, that's part of the reason they are upping the restock fee?

Yeah, probably. They have a whole team dedicated to this.

Man, your posts are useless.

So I read that thread .. so "Testers" test them for a while. .. then they are tested again by some "Verizon Customer Council"???

Is this factual? anyone?

They do have Friendly User Trials, but that is done by internal VzW employees. Certain people in the company carry the phones a few months before they launch. You don't even know how early I saw the Devour before it launched.

 

[evilotto]

I usually run about 1GB/mo w my iPhone. And its almost exclusively using WiFi because I don't get 3G coverage from ATT in many places.

If I were on Verizon and I could actually use 3G, I could easily reach 5GB.

Mostly watching videos. I haven't figured out how to watch video podcasts on my G1. Hopefully its better on the Incredible/N1. One nightly news is ~200MB, so watch a few of those and you've hit 1GB.

my understanding on the 5gb cap is that it is to crackdown on people tethering. if you are just using it for watching videos and stuff i don't think there is actually a cap. from what I have read if you are going way over month after month they may start charging if they think you are tethering...I'm not totally certain on that though, just something I had read when I first decided I was going to switch from ATT to Verizon.

 

[JMKosmo]

Looks like a lot of things for me are going to hinge on Apple's April 8th announcement. If the Verizon Iphone is announced and IS going to be released this summer.......I'm done with Android...I think.

 

[SCARLETnGREY]

WOW, viperboy wins the award for longest post!!!

 

[pragmatous]

Ya I was browsing the android market place on my brothers moto droid and I saw a few wifi detector apps. I don't remember if it was free or paid. No idea if it is what I think it is either or if they work though.

You'll be able to tether easily because there's an app in the android market place for that too.

It's just a matter of waiting, and it makes it even harder when you're just waiting on your first smartphone. That app will definitely be a nice one to have. Wouldn't even think of looking for one. Thanks for pointing that out - at least to check for it

 

[viperboy]

Here are some confirmed things I can tell you about the Incredible, right out of our internal InfoManager database...

512MB RAM/512MB ROM
802.11 b/g/n (N!! Not sure if that's wrong or not, but that's what it said)
"Next Generation Sense UI"
3.5mm headphone jack
480x800 OLED Screen

No other info at the moment, guys. Maybe this might answer some things that haven't been confirmed yet.

 

[floorit]

will tethering available on android? like an app? i'd rather not root, but if it's illegal it's okay

 

[KDII]

FYI....

Originally Posted by KDII
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miami1683
Quote:
Originally Posted by diablo
Hey man, quick question - what do you mean by "they are the same device"? From the existing N1 and the specs online of the Incredible, a few differences are: Incredible has better camera, N1 has 2 microphones, Incredible has 2 LED flashes, plus the cases look very different... Is this accurate? Thanks!

Ok sorry..slight differences..but same core..snapdragon and stuff....I should be more specific...The incredable will be a very nice device.....

Have you heard of any specs for the Incredible that were actually confirmed? ie. rom, ram, underclocked? Since all has been speculation.

Once my buddy get is. Ill get all the info I can and pics also......sorry..i never even asked

 

[dmb_droid41]

I may be wrong here but I was under the impression that it is unlimited data on your phone and that the 5G limit only applies to tethering. Though that is why it is called the unlimited data plan

Yeah, that's what I thought. But I keep hearing people mention a 5GB cap and saying it's not really "unlimited". Not sure what to believe.

 

[JMKosmo]

Gosh ViperBoy do you have to be so condescending?!!? Why do I feel like I just got lectured!?!!

 

[TheLurg1687]

Crap... Incredible or ViPhone.. should be interesting which one comes out first, and how they stack up..

 

[RockoDog]

Here are some confirmed things I can tell you about the Incredible, right out of our internal InfoManager database...

512MB RAM/512MB ROM
802.11 b/g/n (N!! Not sure if that's wrong or not, but that's what it said)
"Next Generation Sense UI"
3.5mm headphone jack
480x800 OLED Screen

No other info at the moment, guys. Maybe this might answer some things that haven't been confirmed yet.

Thanks for all the info and the uber long post

 

[viperboy]

will tethering available on android? like an app? i'd rather not root, but if it's illegal it's okay

You do need to root your phone in order to do that. And no, you're not supposed to for numerous reasons. Doesn't mean that people don't do it though.

Yeah, that's what I thought. But I keep hearing people mention a 5GB cap and saying it's not really "unlimited". Not sure what to believe.

You have unlimited usage from your phone. If you wanna browse from your phone all day and all night, go ahead. But that's all it is for. If you are using it for tethering 1.) you shouldn't be, that's why you pay extra for tethering and 2.) yes, we can tell if you are tethering (hell, I can look at your account and tell).

Now, if you are constantly going over 5gb from legitimate usage, I don't know what they would do, I would doubt they would do anything but if they would, they're likely to just use PFO on you (Packet Flow Optimization) and just slow you down. Again, I doubt they would even do that.

 

[amihererightnow]

One of the things I find humor in is that verizons big move at ctia was skype but its another networks EVO that has a front facing camera

 

[JMKosmo]

One of the things I find humor in is that verizons big move at ctia was skype but its another networks EVO that has a front facing camera

yeah, how many of the new Verizon phones coming out have that? If they are so proud of it, would you make some cool hardware that can use it's full abilities?

 

[viperboy]

Gosh ViperBoy do you have to be so condescending?!!? Why do I feel like I just got lectured!?!!

I gotta deal with this stuff all day... People threatening to beat me up cause I can't just give them a free phone when they dropped theirs in the toilet, people getting ticked off about the smallest stuff when I am trying to help them, the "I'M GOING TO AT&T!!" crap all day (Those aren't magic words, by the way).

Alot of people on here are complaing and begging for the phone to launch. There is also alot of BS info out there. It's just annoying. A little bit of knowledge is dangerous and go forbid anyone say one rumor around this place about this phone and everyone starts to believe it.

I just wanted to correct some things and clear them up.

Thanks for all the info and the uber long post

No problem. Just had alot of stuff to say.

 

[Flaring Afro]

One of the things I find humor in is that verizons big move at ctia was skype but its another networks EVO that has a front facing camera

Wasn't the big thing about how fast they were going to bring out 4G? I thought they talked about that there too.

Also, it''s possible the Incredible will too. This could be bad though. I can easily see some people driving with their phone in their hand on the steering wheel trying to have a video call. Some people are stupid.