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Root Porting ClockWorkMod to the Kyocera Rise

why yes I do still have access to fastboot... and I'm not done messing arround... thats why i got the phone... :p... you where asking for the recovery i made... i changed the partitons to accommodate the c5156.. but I'm just about to pack some images and i'll make one for you base on the c5155... what is in the /misc partition?... in the stock recovery i noticed that there was always a mount issue with that parttion on both our devices and i fixed it in the last recovery i made.. i kinda wonder if its not supposed to be mounted... what do you guys think? did you run hex editor on mmcblk0p17?
 
I'm gonna test out a theory i have to get you guys in fastboot... you guys can push a "boot" image with adb right? and I think that the device can be booted into an altered recovery image with debug/adb and from there you can go into fastboot using adb... thats about the last found out before my phone crashed... once in fastboot you could then restore your boot image and you yould still be in fastboot no harm done... It's risky bisyness but i think it might work...


EDIT: DON'T DO THIS IT DOESN'T WORK!
 
smartmanvartan said:
why yes I do still have access to fastboot... and I'm not done messing arround... thats why i got the phone... :p... you where asking for the recovery i made... i changed the partitons to accommodate the c5156.. but I'm just about to pack some images and i'll make one for you base on the c5155... what is in the /misc partition?... in the stock recovery i noticed that there was always a mount issue with that parttion on both our devices and i fixed it in the last recovery i made.. i kinda wonder if its not supposed to be mounted... what do you guys think? did you run hex editor on mmcblk0p17?
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Awesome! SO, mmcblk0p17 is /misc? I'll take another look into it.

EDIT:
mmcblk0p17 is ext4 formatted, so I just mounted it. It's got 2 files(kcjprop_daemon, libkcjprop_jni.so) and a folder(rw) with a ton of config files.
 
smartmanvartan said:
I'm gonna test out a theory i have to get you guys in fastboot... you guys can push a "boot" image with adb right? and I think that the device can be booted into an altered recovery image with debug/adb and from there you can go into fastboot using adb... thats about the last found out before my phone crashed... once in fastboot you could then restore your boot image and you yould still be in fastboot no harm done... It's risky bisyness but i think it might work...
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How would we boot into the altered recovery image? Everything I've done so far failed. Hopefully you have more success.
 
Lil off topic but wanted too share this with you guys if it helps i bought the paid version & it works well with our phones from what i can see & has a 24hour refund window vs the googles 15min one, but figured maybe this will help you guys show & communicate better with each other, its like a screen capture app or holding down & power at same time only it records video of what ur doing too either email or youtube for people who need too see whats done rather then explaining in words so much, the process of what ur doing on phone,also good for showing ur highscores on a game or whatever else j can think of useing a root video phone for https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ms.screencastfree
 
smartmanvartan said:
this is all research. ..its not even on my device yet... just simulation....

IMG_20130118_015756 - Download - 4shared

Still needs work but it's a vision of things to come....

I'm out for the night... i'll see you guys tomorrow :)
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well, fastboot boot still allows you to use it like normal, you just have to be more careful. Interesting that it's not mounting the /cache partition. Maybe you shouldn't mess with the options yet haha.

Now I want to get a PM Rise to play with XD
 
cooldudezach said:
well, fastboot boot still allows you to use it like normal, you just have to be more careful. Interesting that it's not mounting the /cache partition. Maybe you shouldn't mess with the options yet haha.

Now I want to get a PM Rise to play with XD
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Oddly enough that is the unaltered recovery that I put thru the builder...I'll tweak it tomorrow.... but when I flash thru fastboot, it's a no go... but if I boot it with fastboot it works... anyways I'm out...good night y'all
 
smartmanvartan said:
Oddly enough that is the unaltered recovery that I put thru the builder...I'll tweak it tomorrow.... but when I flash thru fastboot, it's a no go... but if I boot it with fastboot it works... anyways I'm out...good night y'all
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Well, I tried some more unpacking/repacking. No go still for me. So, even if we have fastboot, if the bootloader is still blocking the images on the partition, are we still SOL?

EDIT: Have you tried zeroing out the recovery partition, then rebooting to recovery? It's a common way to get into fastboot, but it doesn't work on the c5155.

EDIT2: I noticed something while poking at the bootloader in the hex editor. "androidboot.authorized_kernel=true" what do you see if you issue the command "kernel"? I wonder if this is our problem? No clue.

EDIT3: Scratch the "kernel" command. I believe it's just info from "oem device-info". What does that give you in fastboot?
 
http://www.4shared.com/photo/2ejYq9DJ/IMG_20130118_174245.html

so i screwed up my rise again... no pain no gain eh!... so i can confirm that the bootloader blocks both boot and recovery... I was testing my cwm and it was perfect... i figured since i was using the fastboot boot command it was working great so i said to myself ill flash it to boot and then ill be able to boot to bootloader mode with the adb reboot bootloader command since it was working in cwm when i was in there... so now i can boot into my stock recovery but i cant boot the device... but I'll post up the cwm for your phone and mine tommorw... unlocking the boot loader is on you... i'm not gonna buy a new one and i wont be able to bring it back again(it was pushing it the first time)...
 
Your sacrifice is appreciated. A moment of silence for the brave Rise who gave it all in the name of discovery.
 
Now, just to reiterate, the bootloader is locked, mmcblk0 is signed and locked, which contains all partitions. The only way to get past this is to convince kyocera that it is in their best interest to unlock the bootloader, like how HTC has. We know our warrenty is void. We know we have the potential to brick our phones. But we don't need to be locked in. :)
 
Hey you guys I been sick for a while someone fill me in what's.going on with the kyocera rise? I had some ideas on unlocking the bootloader and giving acces to demantle the rom and play around with it. I was thinking of how about making something to force the phone into bootloader mode.? and what's up with the devloper Id on the phone where it says developer options does this have anything to do with anything?.
 
I'm new to Android jailbreaking and etc. Is the bootloader a custom recovery menu (Except with different buttons)? Also why doesn't flashing work?
 
monsterjamp said:
I'm new to Android jailbreaking and etc. Is the bootloader a custom recovery menu (Except with different buttons)? Also why doesn't flashing work?
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Basically, the bootloader is the program that loads the recovery or the android os. Flashing does not work because Kyocera wants it to not work. The bootloader will only load special files that are prepared by kyocera and so far no one has found a (reliable or effective) way to spoof this.
 
deadcereal said:
Basically, the bootloader is the program that loads the recovery or the android os. Flashing does not work because Kyocera wants it to not work. The bootloader will only load special files that are prepared by kyocera and so far no one has found a (reliable or effective) way to spoof this.
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Interesting... This is the first time I have ever heard of something like this, it's a weird situation because the phone is rooted yet Kyocera has managed to block us from flashing the recovery menu.
 
monsterjamp said:
Interesting... This is the first time I have ever heard of something like this, it's a weird situation because the phone is rooted yet Kyocera has managed to block us from flashing the recovery menu.
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Rooting has to do with the running system. It's possible to lock down that system too but I'm glad they didn't. The bootloader is lower level, it checks a signature on the recovery and boot partition and if that signature fails it won't boot them.
 
Is it possible to add or copy the new recovery files, to the old one, as not to interrupt the verification process and still be signed or try building the the new on top of the old.
Was also wondering if we/or I could get the 4.0.4 update pushed to our/my phone, and pull the update file would that be helpful?
Just wondering becuz it shouldn't be hard to have it pushed. Just need maybe an error code about system update failed, so they can maybe repush it
Just a though
And gud work so far guys, I appreciate the effort
it's only a matter of time, well get it
If man made it, man can break it, and rebuild it
 
What if we convince Kyocera to push a Jellybean (4.1/4.2) update to our phones. Then we can steal the update and see how the phone flashes updates....
Just a thought.
 
DMedina559 said:
What if we convince Kyocera to push a Jellybean (4.1/4.2) update to our phones. Then we can steal the update and see how the phone flashes updates....
Just a thought.
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While the thought is great, I'm not sure how well our phones would handle JB, especially since the Rise seems to have issues with ICS as it is. A better option would be to get them to release an update that fixes all of the issues we keep having, and then steal it.
 
K Rize said:
Is it possible to add or copy the new recovery files, to the old one, as not to interrupt the verification process and still be signed or try building the the new on top of the old.
Was also wondering if we/or I could get the 4.0.4 update pushed to our/my phone, and pull the update file would that be helpful?
Just wondering becuz it shouldn't be hard to have it pushed. Just need maybe an error code about system update failed, so they can maybe repush it
Just a though
And gud work so far guys, I appreciate the effort
it's only a matter of time, well get it
If man made it, man can break it, and rebuild it
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I've tried to hotswap the recovery images, it doesn't work no matter what I try. I'm not sure how you'd get an update if they aren't actively pushing it.
 
db2 said:
Rooting has to do with the running system. It's possible to lock down that system too but I'm glad they didn't. The bootloader is lower level, it checks a signature on the recovery and boot partition and if that signature fails it won't boot them.
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I think after I get my tax return (so I have some money to burn) I'm gonna try to get the c5156 bootloader onto the c5155. If we can even get clockwork running part time, at least we can make an official nandroid. Until then, I'm not going to be crazy flashing much. I'm also busy with school, so I need to stop having all this fun. :D
 
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