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Root Porting ClockWorkMod to the Kyocera Rise

db2 said:
Someone with more skill than I should pull apart the Kyocera updater apk and see just exactly what it does with these files. They reference that package.

(open a couple in a hex editor until you see com.Kyocera)
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I decompiled the updater apk, but haven't gone through it yet. (Screw the hex editor when you have pretty source code!)

Also, I got those pics of the phone internals. I just haven't upped them yet. I'll probably get around to it monday/tuesdayish. I didn't find anything out of the ordinary really, but I didn't search too hard. :P
 
How to unroot is easy I have rooted it all you have to do is uninstall su and the root update will be uninstalled and then you do a master reset. Another way if the phone is being stubborn do the update in safe mode power button + - volume together when the phone powers on. I don't know what the update does but I will look into posting the files folders and all that good stuff like at 7:00 tonight so if anyone wants to text 909 368 8755
 
A very cool person has told me how to permenatly unroot the rise! I cant figure out how to post the pictures but you go to the market place and search for a app called "supersu" download it and go to the menu in the app and nearly all the way at the bottom its gunna say permanent unroot..hit that and let it do what it has to do and once done delete the supersu app and maje sure your roots gone by using a root checker...if it says u have no root access turn ur rise off and back on and try the updates again..hope this helped
 
Trevon360 said:
A very cool person has told me how to permenatly unroot the rise! I cant figure out how to post the pictures but you go to the market place and search for a app called "supersu" download it and go to the menu in the app and nearly all the way at the bottom its gunna say permanent unroot..hit that and let it do what it has to do and once done delete the supersu app and maje sure your roots gone by using a root checker...if it says u have no root access turn ur rise off and back on and try the updates again..hope this helped
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Careful, Superuser and SuperSU don't play nice together.
 
Trevon360 said:
A very cool person has told me how to permenatly unroot the rise! I cant figure out how to post the pictures but you go to the market place and search for a app called "supersu" download it and go to the menu in the app and nearly all the way at the bottom its gunna say permanent unroot..hit that and let it do what it has to do and once done delete the supersu app and maje sure your roots gone by using a root checker...if it says u have no root access turn ur rise off and back on and try the updates again..hope this helped
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have u successfully remove root and apply the Filmware update
 
The sprint kyocera rise does not need the update. Their firmware and soft ware is more advanced than the virgin mobile version. But we need to unlock the bootloader in order to create the cmw and a custom rom to it. Both the sprint and virgin mobile phones. Soo i was thinking for the virgin mobile we need to see how the phone recieves the update and extract the stock rom this way... any ideas on that kind of thinking... well once we create a custom rom then we would be able to create our on update and vuala :D
 
I forget what version of the rootby binry i had before but it installed supersu not superuser & if you didnt allow nonstop root access it it would freeze the rise but it had supersu not superuser but it was a older version of root by bin4ry, if that was used again it would replace superuser? I found that version from watching a youtube vid b4 stumbling onto this site

Only mentioning this because i too recall seeing in supersu settings a complete unroot me feature, & i found then i found the root4binry on this site and ran it & it replaced supersu with superuser so thinkink it would happen again if i used that version again but not sure if it works that way or not
 
Well, the update seems to have bricked my phone. I'm not rooted or anything, I'm running everything stock, but it just randomly started bootlooping today, eventually getting stuck at the Rise by Kyocera screen, and going no further. I can get into recovery, and I did a factory reset, but that gave me a "cannot find volume/misc" error, and didn't change anything as far as how far the phone goes in the boot process. I don't know if I shut it down mid update, or what.

At least I'm guessing that's what happened -- I didn't manually tell it to download anything, I just went to use it and found out that I had a bootlooping brick, on the same day Virgin rolled out an update.
 
Kritter888 said:
Well lookd all around dif areas & no luck finding our phones exact model except 3 places usa, sprint, virgin mobile, boost of course all 3 are sprint the canada ones & british only thing is to verify i went to Kyocera website and theres developer code for PM canada, the british one carrier BT & thats it for our models however only 1 had tools you can download BT Global Services: Tools
Dunno if the softwares even atainable i didnt try cause its british & says requires a password too download the tools but maybe somewhere on web they can be gotton via some file transfer site hint hint
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Where did you see mention of the british one? the hydro for boost mobile has a software version number of 1.000BT.

Side note: Anybody know why the PM version of the kernel is 103.1MB while Sprint/Virgin/Boost version of the kernel is 100.6MB?
 
If you go to the Kyocera site developer it gives you lil names by the pm is canada then vm is virgin mobile then another one said bt so look up bt communications also if ur at Kyocera website and ur in the development site and ull find a help page somewhere for support and they pass that onto carrier if carrier cant help they have authrized people to help u and u click a list of them and it will bring u to bt tool for that carrier but u gotta be a authorized dealer or something i cant remember all my steps in researching but knew id pass info on that there is tools out for getting into the system
 
Kritter888 said:
If you go to the Kyocera site developer it gives you lil names by the pm is canada then vm is virgin mobile then another one said bt so look up bt communications also if ur at Kyocera website and ur in the development site and ull find a help page somewhere for support and they pass that onto carrier if carrier cant help they have authrized people to help u and u click a list of them and it will bring u to bt tool for that carrier but u gotta be a authorized dealer or something i cant remember all my steps in researching but knew id pass info on that there is tools out for getting into the system
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Like I said, the code they used for Boost Mobile is BT. It isn't bt communications. The Rise is only on Pacific Mobile, Sprint, and Virgin Mobile. The Hydro is only on Boost Mobile. Anything from bt communications is not from/for our phones.
 
cooldudezach said:
Side note: Anybody know why the PM version of the kernel is 103.1MB while Sprint/Virgin/Boost version of the kernel is 100.6MB?
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Why, to support the Canadian language of course! ;)

They'd have to be compared side-by-side to really know for sure.
 
Alastor10009 said:
The sprint kyocera rise does not need the update. Their firmware and soft ware is more advanced than the virgin mobile version. But we need to unlock the bootloader in order to create the cmw and a custom rom to it. Both the sprint and virgin mobile phones. Soo i was thinking for the virgin mobile we need to see how the phone recieves the update and extract the stock rom this way... any ideas on that kind of thinking... well once we create a custom rom then we would be able to create our on update and vuala :D
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remember everyone lol the mytouch3g slide was the same way like are phone so even if we can get the rise to s-off if thats possible too:rolleyes:
 
PattyBear9210 said:
remember everyone lol the mytouch3g slide was the same way like are phone so even if we can get the rise to s-off if thats possible too:rolleyes:
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Unless I'm mistaken S-OFF/ON means /system is unlocked/locked from modification. That doesn't apply as our /system isn't locked down at all, all you need is root to remount it rw and you're good to go. Our problem is the bootloader being locked, and lacking the ability (or not knowing how) to install third party ROMs even without touching the bootloader.
 
S-on/off is HTC's nomenclature for encrypted signature security being on or off for the bootloader. An HTC bootloader can be unlocked or locked with s-on, but is always unlocked with s-off. S-on/unlocked means that you cannot get to every partition to flash.

The term doesn't apply to other makers.

Hope this helps. :)
 
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I'm actually a Rise owner myself. I've had a bit of experience flashing, reflashing, wiping, etc. on my Acer Iconia a500. Killed my old Optimus V with some bad flashes. Never really got into modifying my HTC or PCD...

But this Kyocera... I actually have my daily driver, which is rooted, VM and a few stock apps removed, on Virgin Mobile. If I can help in any way, you should let me know. I have a spare handset, as well. I can always try to see if that gets the update.

I'm in North Carolina, USA, and have no firmware update. RUnning 4.0.4, the June 29th iteration of the Kernel.
 
A little of topic kinda but is it possible in Any way to Root my rise without a pc because i broke mine..like is it some kind of app out there that can root My rise please say yes
 
Trevon360 said:
A little of topic kinda but is it possible in Any way to Root my rise without a pc because i broke mine..like is it some kind of app out there that can root My rise please say yes
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Nope, the Rise is rooted by exploiting a vulnerability in the adb "restore" capability, which can't be done from the phone itself.
 
Update: I have the update listing as active in my phone. I have not yet installed or attempted an installation. Since I can now download it, and have both my modified/rooted handset and an unopened one, is there any advice on how to proceed so that I can be of help?

EDIT: I can verify that the update will fail before it even reboots, no exit code, on my rooted Rise.
 
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