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Homosexuality - Your thoughts?

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Kaiser17

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The way I live my life, I try to be as fair as I can, I try not to judge people, to hurt people.

I don't try to look at things from a religious perspective but my own instead. The way I look at homosexuality always changes and I can't seem to stick to one feeling. Sometimes I feel it's nasty, sickening, and its wrong not because of religion but because it goes against reproduction so it is wrong scientifically. Of course I keep my thoughts to myself, and everyone should.

Then I feel, who cares.. people have the right to do whatever the hell they want to with their lives, because it is their right and who are we to judge them? We aren't paying their bills, they aren't bothering us. No matter how much we want to deny it, their sexual orientation isn't affecting our lives in any shape or form.

Some believe people are born gay while others believe people choose to be gay. That is where im undecided, when I was in 9th grade I had a friend whose dad left his mom for another man after 20+ years of marriage and 3 grown kids.. I mean how does that happen? Then you have people that show signs of being gay at an early age in their life and soon discover that they are gay. Now I can't figure out if people really are born gay or its life experiences early or later on that turns them gay.

Then you have gay marriage where I have conflicting thoughts. Should gay's be allowed to be married? Sometimes I feel why not, them being gay or being together wont change regardless of them being able to get married or not.. they will still be together and the marriage will simply be just a certificate and they will be an official couple and share the same last name and others things that married couples share. And its their right to as people.

And then I feel marriage should be between men and woman, its has been that way for years and years and why should it change now?

So these are my thoughts alone on homosexuality, oh and I treat everyone equal regardless of gender, orientation, and race as long as they treat me with respect I do the same. These are simply my thoughts that I am sharing, and I'd like to hear everyone elses thoughts on this matter and how everyone feels.
 
Rxpert83 said:
Due to the potential polarity of this, i think its best discussed in the PCA forum. Ill have a mod double check to made sure thats the right call.
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I thought about that aswell before posting this, but its not all the way political.. its general too.
 
This could be a human issue or it could devolve into a political one, too soon to say if a move is needed yet.

From the human side, here's my point of view - the only person that I'm the least bit concerned about who they may be sleeping with is my wife. After that, whoever sleeps with whom is something that I consider a non-issue for me and none of my business.

If anyone says to me, this is my boyfriend, girlfriend, husband or wife, I reach out my hand for a shake and say with sincerity, "Pleased to meet you!"

And I don't care about gender because that's really none of my business.

For me, thinking about someone else's gender preference is right up there with thinking about their skin color - in other words, really meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Life is hard and often very lonely. To anyone who has found their solution to that, I say, more power to them.

That's my personal opinion.
 
EarlyMon said:
This could be a human issue or it could devolve into a political one, too soon to say if a move is needed yet.

From the human side, here's my point of view - the only person that I'm the least bit concerned about who they may be sleeping with is my wife. After that, whoever sleeps with whom is something that I consider a non-issue for me and none of my business.

If anyone says to me, this is my boyfriend, girlfriend, husband or wife, I reach out my hand for a shake and say with sincerity, "Pleased to meet you!"

And I don't care about gender because that's really none of my business.

For me, thinking about someone else's gender preference is right up there with thinking about their skin color - in other words, really meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Life is hard and often very lonely. To anyone who has found their solution to that, I say, more power to them.

That's my personal opinion.
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I like your point of view, very well put.
 
I grew up in a Bible-reading household, and knew my own sexual preferences at a fairly early age, so I didn't really give it much thought until my best friend in my mid-20s brought it up. My friend had studied for the Priesthood so he knew the Holy Bible and had one handy. We read the relevant passages, which are mostly Old Testament and harsh. And since we had both studied the Bible, we knew that much of Old Testament law was superseded by Christ's New Covenant. In short it's not fair to use Old Testament verse to judge people.

At the time I had been living my own Bohemian lifestyle, and my friend had been dating girls, and I paid no mind of his roommates, some of whom were openly gay. So I was more than a little surprised when he "came out" to me and told me that he was going to be moving in with his boyfriend. In retrospect him being catholic, studying for the Priesthood etc., it shouldn't have been that surprising. It seemed just a little too stereotypical. :laugh:

To make a long story short, spending time with my gay best friend, and getting close with other gays and lesbians was an eye-opening experience that I'm grateful to have had. I learned that our sexual awakenings happen pretty much the same way no matter which way we're born. Yes, I do believe that we're born that way, after seeing it all for myself. Although it's not the way I roll, I accept it as being how things are. It's not my place to judge, or to exert my own preferences on others.

Sadly this was the beginning of the end of our friendship. One thing I hadn't counted on was being "the other man" in a committed relationship! So I lost my dear friend to a lover; not the first or the last time that has happened. And that too was proof to me of how normal being gay really is. No big deal.

Hope this helps.
 
I personally don't care. I think it is gross for men, but whatever, doesn't affect me at all. Really don't care about the marriage thing either.

I do however have a problem with things like gays in the military. Here is why: Women can not serve on submarines because of privacy, there just isn't room. Men and Women have separate areas to sleep, separate bathrooms, showers, etc. At boot camp we have to shower as a group. Why separate the men and women if there are homosexuals there? Seems hypocritical to me and would make some people uncomfortable also.
 
Just to make it clear for you, i'm neutral to gays or anyone, whatever I'm going to say below is from my pwn and historical perspective. Its in human nature to hate something, with push of media and politics it's very easy to make people hate someone or somerhing.

Marriage is a polical issue, Republicans needs support from their strong historically known racist, sexist, we hate everyone states such as Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, Arizona, Tennessee. If Republican start supporting gay marriage and pro-choice in general, they are going to lose their crowd.

Since hate is a nice controlling and power grabbing tool, it's focused right now on gays and illegal immigrants. And that is partually because you are no longer allowed to hate people you could openly hate in the past.

Gays didn't just pop up few years ago, they have been in history for ages. In animal world it exists too so we are not alone.
They should have the same human rights as everyone else.
 
I'm not gay, but after many years in the decorative industry, I have many friends who are. I've lost some very close friends to AIDS. I've also attended several gay weddings, both female and male. They were happy occasions that hurt absolutely no none. Why shouldn't they be allowed happiness too?

As for the gay, nature or nurture. I've never had a problem with someones sexual orientation, but always wondered about those in your face gay men. You know, the ones that are "fabulous". We have friends who had a son. I've been around the kid, now young man since birth. He's as gay as the day is long, always has been. Dancing, dress up (not necessarily feminine, but an obsession with fashion), limp wrist and lilting voice almost from the crib on. Dad, somewhat religious has had major problems accepting his son's orientation. Fortunately, mom has been more accepting. The kid is a good caring person in my eyes. There's no doubt in my mind now that it's nature, not nurture.
 
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