MacFett
Android Expert
Nexus 4 is not a CDMA device. And if it was vmu would not get it.
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Help Constant Slow Mobile Data?
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I got my note2 on net10 (att) sim and its getting 6 and 7 Mbs out in the boonies on 3g. Much faster than whatever I was getting on the elite.
No, would be buying the Nexus 4 unlocked from the google play store and going T-Mobile prepaid. They have a $30 per month, 100 minutes, unlimited data and text which includes 5GB of 4G data. Since I don't use many minutes that will be fine for me.
It's not LTE but HSPA+ 42 which is quite a bit faster than 3G.
BOb
MacFett
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The nexus 4 is a gsm device. I am typing this on my nexus 4 on T-Mobile.
That is correct. Did anyone say otherwise?
Well, I'm happy to have found this thread. Today I kind of followed the re-program instruction that someone posted above from Virgin. But, since I didn't know my MSID once I set them both to ten 1's I just clicked on the Activate phone. Shockingly when it restarted Status 3G/2G was reporting 3G... WOW! Up until then it always reported 2G.
I did a speed test and now get @ 1Mbps down and @ .8Mbps up!
All this time I wondered why the phone's data seemed so much slower than my Optimus V. Now I know.
BOb
I did a speed test and now get @ 1Mbps down and @ .8Mbps up!
All this time I wondered why the phone's data seemed so much slower than my Optimus V. Now I know.
BOb
Let us know how this works out in the long run. Maybe you have solved all of our problems...
dukenukems
Newbie
My phone was getting terrible speedsfor the last 2 days where it was switching to 2g.Back to normal now but i amplanning on switchingto t-mobile unlimited 4g since they have coverage in my area.
I'll have to flash back to stock so I can try this. Unfortunately Sleipnier doesn't have activation working.
Will report back with results.
Will report back with results.
Keep in mind my phone was NEVER going into 3G before I did this. Not sure if that is your situation.
BOb
Well, mine toggles random and chaotic. So, I suppose it's a slightly different issue, and seems to be the more commonly reported problem.
I'll give it a try tegardless.
I'll give it a try tegardless.
Yeah, it's surely worth a shot. I'm not going to be able to get it for a while anyway, so we shall see.
Thanks again for sharing your experience with us, regardless if it fixes my problem.
Thanks again for sharing your experience with us, regardless if it fixes my problem.
As I said before mine has been working a lot better recently but there have been a few occasions like this afternoon where my data completely locks up despite everything reporting the phone having a 3G connection with a good signal. The only thing that seems to fix it is turning on and off airplane mode multiple times or waiting a while.
Ken C
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Hate to be contrary. But vm uses sprint towers right? If so that itself could explain everybodies slow data.
Before I got my elite I was on sprint with the og evo, and had the same lousy service at my house. It's a network issue imo. I have 3 towers within a half mile of my house. Using "open signal map" app I was able to watch the phone jump from one tower to another. Called sprint who told me I should be fine. Told them they were full of it. When I would manually change the prl to Verizon my dbm numbers would jump from -100+dbm to -65dbm. If you look in "about phone" you'll see the prl for this phone (elite), mine says 61007 which is an old ass list.
So now we have sprint with crap signal. And the rumor mill has it that sprint is upgrading they're network from Wimax to lte. That could theoretically cause outage issues.
add to this that some guy in Japan bought a controlling share in sprint and is supposedly financing an accelerated update program. I believe what it all comes down to, is that supposedly by 2015 sprints lte should be on par with Verizon and AT&T. (which I believe as much as the rest of ya)
If you think about it sprint has itself, boost, cricket, and virgin, (and good knows who else) all pulling from their towers. They just don't have the network to cover all those devices.
Oh, also just to put it out there these phones don't use the data to send texts. When you do send a text you'll notice you lose 3g. Don't know why they have it that way, but they do. Text and voice go through cellular everything else goes over 3g. Personally I'm hoping we're not being fed a load, and that when sprint is all lte'ed up that it should free up the network for those of us using 3g. Sprint did state that they'd honor the contracts of all the folks with 4g devices and not pull that signal until they're able to push us all over to lte.
sorry for the long post, but i hope this helps somebody out there
P.s. To clarify, it's the native messaging app that runs over the cell signal. Apps like handcent, google voice, etc, use data. (found this out while trying to lower my mothers AT&T bill. Just getting rid of unlimited texting and using a data texting app dropped her bill by more than $80
Before I got my elite I was on sprint with the og evo, and had the same lousy service at my house. It's a network issue imo. I have 3 towers within a half mile of my house. Using "open signal map" app I was able to watch the phone jump from one tower to another. Called sprint who told me I should be fine. Told them they were full of it. When I would manually change the prl to Verizon my dbm numbers would jump from -100+dbm to -65dbm. If you look in "about phone" you'll see the prl for this phone (elite), mine says 61007 which is an old ass list.
So now we have sprint with crap signal. And the rumor mill has it that sprint is upgrading they're network from Wimax to lte. That could theoretically cause outage issues.
add to this that some guy in Japan bought a controlling share in sprint and is supposedly financing an accelerated update program. I believe what it all comes down to, is that supposedly by 2015 sprints lte should be on par with Verizon and AT&T. (which I believe as much as the rest of ya)
If you think about it sprint has itself, boost, cricket, and virgin, (and good knows who else) all pulling from their towers. They just don't have the network to cover all those devices.
Oh, also just to put it out there these phones don't use the data to send texts. When you do send a text you'll notice you lose 3g. Don't know why they have it that way, but they do. Text and voice go through cellular everything else goes over 3g. Personally I'm hoping we're not being fed a load, and that when sprint is all lte'ed up that it should free up the network for those of us using 3g. Sprint did state that they'd honor the contracts of all the folks with 4g devices and not pull that signal until they're able to push us all over to lte.
sorry for the long post, but i hope this helps somebody out there
P.s. To clarify, it's the native messaging app that runs over the cell signal. Apps like handcent, google voice, etc, use data. (found this out while trying to lower my mothers AT&T bill. Just getting rid of unlimited texting and using a data texting app dropped her bill by more than $80
Artine
Android Expert
Hate to be contrary. But vm uses sprint towers right? If so that itself could explain everybodies slow data.
Before I got my elite I was on sprint with the og evo, and had the same lousy service at my house. It's a network issue imo. I have 3 towers within a half mile of my house. Using "open signal map" app I was able to watch the phone jump from one tower to another. Called sprint who told me I should be fine. Told them they were full of it. When I would manually change the prl to Verizon my dbm numbers would jump from -100+dbm to -65dbm. If you look in "about phone" you'll see the prl for this phone (elite), mine says 61007 which is an old ass list.
So now we have sprint with crap signal. And the rumor mill has it that sprint is upgrading they're network from Wimax to lte. That could theoretically cause outage issues.
add to this that some guy in Japan bought a controlling share in sprint and is supposedly financing an accelerated update program. I believe what it all comes down to, is that supposedly by 2015 sprints lte should be on par with Verizon and AT&T. (which I believe as much as the rest of ya)
If you think about it sprint has itself, boost, cricket, and virgin, (and good knows who else) all pulling from their towers. They just don't have the network to cover all those devices.
Oh, also just to put it out there these phones don't use the data to send texts. When you do send a text you'll notice you lose 3g. Don't know why they have it that way, but they do. Text and voice go through cellular everything else goes over 3g. Personally I'm hoping we're not being fed a load, and that when sprint is all lte'ed up that it should free up the network for those of us using 3g. Sprint did state that they'd honor the contracts of all the folks with 4g devices and not pull that signal until they're able to push us all over to lte.
sorry for the long post, but i hope this helps somebody out there
P.s. To clarify, it's the native messaging app that runs over the cell signal. Apps like handcent, google voice, etc, use data. (found this out while trying to lower my mothers AT&T bill. Just getting rid of unlimited texting and using a data texting app dropped her bill by more than $80
So.... does anyone have the new list so we can flash it?
Seriously, though. Anyone?
Also, it's interesting to note that in the images for displaying the phone's current data signal, such as 1X and 3G, there are a full set of images for 4G. Not sure if the little phone could necessarily handle 4G, but just some food for thought.
Oh, and about the data usage for texting, that doesn't seem to be the case with GO SMS, fortunately.
I don't know where you got the idea that HandCent doesn't use SMS but uses data?
Perhaps it has a separate mode that allows for that. I know GoSMS does called GoChat.
There are lots alternatives that use data rather than Cell/SMS... Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Talk, as I said GoChat. Of course, to use one the person you are sending to has to have that app.
But as far as I know all the SMS replacement aps are basically a UI over the SMS message service.
The only texting app I am aware of that uses data is iMessage on the iPhone. This allows you to text with iPods, iPads and iPhones. iMessage even indicates how it got the message, Blue or Green bubble... one is SMS one is data. I don't recall which is which. My wife/son have iPhone on virgin and my message are a different color when they get them... cause there SMS.
Perhaps it has a separate mode that allows for that. I know GoSMS does called GoChat.
There are lots alternatives that use data rather than Cell/SMS... Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Talk, as I said GoChat. Of course, to use one the person you are sending to has to have that app.
But as far as I know all the SMS replacement aps are basically a UI over the SMS message service.
The only texting app I am aware of that uses data is iMessage on the iPhone. This allows you to text with iPods, iPads and iPhones. iMessage even indicates how it got the message, Blue or Green bubble... one is SMS one is data. I don't recall which is which. My wife/son have iPhone on virgin and my message are a different color when they get them... cause there SMS.
Ken C
Well-Known Member
Go SMS, pinger, text plus, do use the data connection to communicate. I went through a bunch of those type of apps looking to see just that.
Also if you go into the, testing menu through the dailer where you can change the network from gsm, cdma,etc when you switch between them it can delay the texts. Couldn't tell you specifically what happens. But I've noticed it happen. Granted maybe it's during the switch that the text gets lost or whatever you want to call it. But I was fooling with it last night then again this morning and had a text I missed from the night before come through.
I've also shut of the data radio to the phone and still have texts t through the native app come through.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can explain exactly what happens, but it does. That's how the post paid carriers can give away free text and voice but nickle and dime ya on the data.
Also if you go into the, testing menu through the dailer where you can change the network from gsm, cdma,etc when you switch between them it can delay the texts. Couldn't tell you specifically what happens. But I've noticed it happen. Granted maybe it's during the switch that the text gets lost or whatever you want to call it. But I was fooling with it last night then again this morning and had a text I missed from the night before come through.
I've also shut of the data radio to the phone and still have texts t through the native app come through.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can explain exactly what happens, but it does. That's how the post paid carriers can give away free text and voice but nickle and dime ya on the data.
Artine
Android Expert
If by data you mean 3G, I almost never have it on and text just fine on GO SMS without it. And I never miss texts as long as I have a signal.
Ken.. I'm not sure how you tested. I just tried this. I turned off my wifi and mobile data. I was able to send and receive text messages with out a problem.
The truth is, SMS doesn't cost carriers anything (my research has shown). It is carried over the normal communications the phone uses to keep in contact with the tower. Texts are so expensive on post-paid contract plans because people want them and are willing to pay.
The truth is, SMS doesn't cost carriers anything (my research has shown). It is carried over the normal communications the phone uses to keep in contact with the tower. Texts are so expensive on post-paid contract plans because people want them and are willing to pay.
Mine is 61009 I've only had my phone a couple months though. I am actually having some call issues now, everyone's voice sounds robotic but they hear me fine. I am trying to figure out if something is wrong with my speaker or if it is sprint again.
So.... does anyone have the new list so we can flash it?
Seriously, though. Anyone?
I found the boost 61009 prl. I'm not sure if that's any different than VM. I'm guessing it would still work fine?
Also, I have the latest Sprint prl. I haven't tried playing around with either.
I have 61007 but my wife has 61009 on hers. We bought them a couple months apart.