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Your thoughts/expectations of the HTC One (was the M7)
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Just some food for thought about the HTC One. Is it, hardware wise, a great phone? Yes and no. If anything goes wrong with it, you can't fix it. If the battery goes, you can't replace it. ( see the Ifixit teardown). When it works, is it good? Yes it is really good.....but, the OS will be a year old soon.
My problem is that this company only made $1.8 million last quarter. Is this the company that will push updates, honor warranties, and basically even stay in business? Some manufacturing defects are starting to show up, like bad GPS, etc. Will there be other defects showing up? Who knows, but I am worried that HTC doesn't have the resources to carry this thing through.
Unfortunately, I think I am going to wait this one out.
My problem is that this company only made $1.8 million last quarter. Is this the company that will push updates, honor warranties, and basically even stay in business? Some manufacturing defects are starting to show up, like bad GPS, etc. Will there be other defects showing up? Who knows, but I am worried that HTC doesn't have the resources to carry this thing through.
Unfortunately, I think I am going to wait this one out.
The OS is one step below the latest, and they have said it will be updated soon. "One year old" sounds like what Apple were saying about the S4 before launch 
. No, not worried there - though TBH I'll root and go custom pretty quickly with any phone I buy, so am more concerned myself with the size of the developer base than the manufacturer's update record.
I'm not worried about warranties not being honoured, and in the EU those are 2 year warranties. And how many phones don't have some teething troubles in the first batches? The best selling android of last year still has problems with some SD cards and the international version had (and for many, still has) a bug which can cause the phone to hard brick ("sudden death syndrome"), and there are threads here about some service centres still failing to handle this properly. My point here is not bashing any brand or model (I like the S3 a lot), but rather that a nervous customer could find reasons for avoiding any manufacturer.
Yes, I'd be happier if HTC's state was better, and indeed think it will be healthier for all friends of android if it improves. But I'm going to make my choice on the merits of the device and how well I feel it suits me.
. No, not worried there - though TBH I'll root and go custom pretty quickly with any phone I buy, so am more concerned myself with the size of the developer base than the manufacturer's update record. I'm not worried about warranties not being honoured, and in the EU those are 2 year warranties. And how many phones don't have some teething troubles in the first batches? The best selling android of last year still has problems with some SD cards and the international version had (and for many, still has) a bug which can cause the phone to hard brick ("sudden death syndrome"), and there are threads here about some service centres still failing to handle this properly. My point here is not bashing any brand or model (I like the S3 a lot), but rather that a nervous customer could find reasons for avoiding any manufacturer.
Yes, I'd be happier if HTC's state was better, and indeed think it will be healthier for all friends of android if it improves. But I'm going to make my choice on the merits of the device and how well I feel it suits me.
Ok, facts time.
http://www.htc.com/www/about/newsroom/2013/2013-04-08-htc-releases-unaudited-results-for-1q-2013
HTC took in $1.43 billion - that's billion with a B and that's in US dollars.
They sunk a lot of coin into the One launch and took a big hit not being able to ship at levels matching demand in March, last quarter.
I'm really sick and tired of the blogosphere fearmongering by idiot "reporters" whose understanding of manufacturing economics is at the skill level of balancing a personal checkbook.
This is a repeat of the same tired bull crap from q4 2011.
The blogosphere predicted the end of HTC for stealing from Apple. Which it never did, but it lost the case. (Anyone forget the recent closed-door session where Apple and HTC agreed to cross-license things because Apple was afraid of going to court, or do we only remember the HTC hate?)
Then the blogosphere starting this same bull there - omgz pwnies, you probably can't get support, better buy something else.
Anyone seeing a pattern here?
As in plain as the nose on your face?
Anyone here actually believe that this pattern is not the result of money changing hands to screw HTC?
If you think that I'm nuts, then explain how every time HTC rolls over a billion Yankee bucks, the blogosphere runs stories that it's going out of business.
Go read the same meme at the launch of the Sensation, the One X and now the One.
Now go back and compare total HTC revenue and earnings between 2010 and 2012.
I'll help.
2010 revenue - NT$ 278.8b, or US$ 9.28b
2011 revenue - NT$ 465.8b, or US$ 15.5b
2012 revenue - NT$ 289.0b. or US$ 9.63b
So, HTC made FAR more than the nonsensical $1.8 million quoted here, and stories of their demise are vastly overrated.
And the next time you see one, ask yourself who's spreading them, and what the facts are.
And if anyone wants to try arguing about profits, get your ducks in a row and come loaded for bear.
I'm not going to politely tiptoe around these sensationalist lies any longer.
http://www.htc.com/www/about/newsroom/2013/2013-04-08-htc-releases-unaudited-results-for-1q-2013
HTC took in $1.43 billion - that's billion with a B and that's in US dollars.
They sunk a lot of coin into the One launch and took a big hit not being able to ship at levels matching demand in March, last quarter.
I'm really sick and tired of the blogosphere fearmongering by idiot "reporters" whose understanding of manufacturing economics is at the skill level of balancing a personal checkbook.
This is a repeat of the same tired bull crap from q4 2011.
The blogosphere predicted the end of HTC for stealing from Apple. Which it never did, but it lost the case. (Anyone forget the recent closed-door session where Apple and HTC agreed to cross-license things because Apple was afraid of going to court, or do we only remember the HTC hate?)
Then the blogosphere starting this same bull there - omgz pwnies, you probably can't get support, better buy something else.
Anyone seeing a pattern here?
As in plain as the nose on your face?
Anyone here actually believe that this pattern is not the result of money changing hands to screw HTC?
If you think that I'm nuts, then explain how every time HTC rolls over a billion Yankee bucks, the blogosphere runs stories that it's going out of business.
Go read the same meme at the launch of the Sensation, the One X and now the One.
Now go back and compare total HTC revenue and earnings between 2010 and 2012.
I'll help.
2010 revenue - NT$ 278.8b, or US$ 9.28b
2011 revenue - NT$ 465.8b, or US$ 15.5b
2012 revenue - NT$ 289.0b. or US$ 9.63b
So, HTC made FAR more than the nonsensical $1.8 million quoted here, and stories of their demise are vastly overrated.
And the next time you see one, ask yourself who's spreading them, and what the facts are.
And if anyone wants to try arguing about profits, get your ducks in a row and come loaded for bear.
I'm not going to politely tiptoe around these sensationalist lies any longer.
This "Market Speculation", etc is exactly why Dell went back to being a privately held company. This kind of reporting can completely ruin a company's stock.
Ftfy
Thanks Early, I owe you several Virtual Beers of your choosing.
Android26
Android Enthusiast
I see what you're saying and somewhat agree, but will still get the phone later this year (especially if the 2013 Nexus device underwhelms me).
K
KOLIO
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Just wanted to add this one fun fact that the
economic journalist/experts seem to always conveniently fail to mention:HTC hasn't reported a loss since they were listed on the stock exchange in March 2002.
AntimonyER
CHANGED FROM AF ADDICT MIKESTONY
Yeah HTC definitely doesn't get what they deserve. The Rezound (sans Beats commercials) was a great phone on Verizon, got good reception, good battery life, and had the best screen on Verizon at the time. The DNA is easily the best phone on Verizon, the first 1080P screen in the country, it's smooth as silk and a beautiful phone. And all you heard was how it had a tiny battery. The most infuriating thing at the time was a Verge article that brutalized the DNA for its battery life, and then gave a GS3 double the score for 15 minutes fewer life! 
toad6386
Android Enthusiast
My wife was all settled for an EVO LTE, until I told her that she should get the One so she wouldn't lust after mine! She practically insisted I go to Best Buy today so she could get her phone before she goes on a cruise in a week and a half!
BillyODU
Member
My wife was all settled for an EVO LTE, until I told her that she should get the One so she wouldn't lust after mine! She practically insisted I go to Best Buy today so she could get her phone before she goes on a cruise in a week and a half!
Maybe I should send my lady on a cruise.. so I can have some alone time with the One.
You have just won two internetz for best prerelease post in the history of our forums!
BillyODU
Member
I'd like to thank the academy for this wonderful honor, and give special thanks to toad6386 for inspiring me with this idea.
*cliche circling around and around wondering how to get off stage*
K
KOLIO
Guest
I'm looking @ T-MOBILE as you are.
ATM,no such animal exists on e-BAY or BEST BUY*,or even T-MOBILE,as T-MOBILE hasn't set a pre-order or release date yet.
*Just got off the phone w/both T-MOBILE & BEST BUY.By no means is anything gospel,just relaying what was said to me.
1) BEST BUY:Overwhelmed w/the amount of pre-orders,totally "sold out" & this is why any evidence to it existing on their site is now gone.The rep on the phone admitted they should have communicated w/the public a bit better than pulling the SKU out of the system,but,I'm guessing customers were smoke-checking their web site w/queries regarding the ONE. No word one way or the other as to if/when more will be in stock.
2) T-MOBILE: STATUS QUO,no official word on a release date or when/if BEST BUY will get more in stock.I will add that once I got through to a CSR,they knew exactly what I was referring to w/o having to repeat myself ad-nauseum & seemed to be in tune w/what's going on,regarding T-MOBILE & BEST BUY stock status.
My guess is we'll see more @ BEST BUY of the T-MOBILE branded ONE,but,ya probably want to be persistent in checking & HAVE YOUR $ READY,as we'll probably get a repeat of this again.
As for e-Bay,most sellers w/the ONE are profiteers & have no more in stock than you or I & simply re-selling their stock @a tidy profit once they receive it.Save your $ & get it elsewhere.
You will save a bunch of money by waiting, but by then there will be another hot new item on the horizon tempting you. That is the curse we live with.
M
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At least one AT&T store is selling the HTC One a bit early | Android Central
Some guys have all the luck
Some guys have all the luck
K
KOLIO
Guest
I'm waiting on my email from HTC and my trade in is a go. One Galaxy Note for one HTC One from AT&T contract free
How about a heads-up should you hear when BEST BUY will again accept orders/pre-orders for the T-MOBILE branded ONE,provided that doing so will not jeopardize your job.
THX!