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Official Speed Test and WiMax Deployment Thread

Ok my internet is not really this fast but it peaks at this every once and awhile. Love the U of M internet. At worst it's like 30Mb/s usually about 60Mb/s.

 
Yesterday, we had a new guy named eieio come into the "official" thread and he really lit things up when he started posting speed tests. His comments were: "I think the up and coming cities for 4g roll out is grossly understated. Sprint is down playing its wimax roll out. But that is a good thing to under promise and over deliver."

The following are some of the results eieio posted:

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The following speed test is for Tampa:

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Just to clarify, the test on the left was posted by eieio. Notice his ISP is Sprint PCS and his location is 1100 miles from Tampa.

The graphic on the right is one that I ran. Notice my ISP is EarthLink and the distance is 50 miles (obviously, we're on opposite sides of town and I live in the outskirts).

Eieio didn't include every location and a lot of people were asking "what about me". Well, everyone can run these tests for themselves. All you need is a Flash enabled browser. Just go to Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test and start testing.
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billsmed said:
Yesterday, we had a new guy named eieio come into the "official" thread and he really lit things up when he started posting speed tests. His comments were: "I think the up and coming cities for 4g roll out is grossly understated. Sprint is down playing its wimax roll out. But that is a good thing to under promise and over deliver."

The following are some of the results eieio posted:

8ZrxHN

The following speed test is for Tampa:​




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Just to clarify, the test on the left was posted by eieio. Notice his ISP is Sprint PCS and his location is 1100 miles from Tampa.​






The graphic on the right is one that I ran. Notice my ISP is EarthLink and the distance is 50 miles (obviously, we're on opposite sides of town and I live in the outskirts).​





Eieio didn't include every location and a lot of people were asking "what about me". Well, everyone can run these tests for themselves. All you need is a Flash enabled browser. Just go to Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test and start testing.​




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Ok, I think I see what is going on. He has Sprint/wimax and it testing his speed to different locations. It doesn't give us any real information about the location having wimax, just how fast his wimax is getting him to those locations. I was initialy reading those test results to mean that the end location was a Sprint PCS ISP, but that is only his originating ISP. In other words, he can run that test to any location around the globe and get the same results.

Thanks for putting up this thread Bill.



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billsmed said:
Yesterday, we had a new guy named eieio come into the "official" thread and he really lit things up when he started posting speed tests. His comments were: "I think the up and coming cities for 4g roll out is grossly understated. Sprint is down playing its wimax roll out. But that is a good thing to under promise and over deliver."

The following are some of the results eieio posted:

8ZrxHN

The following speed test is for Tampa:

bM4bAs

Just to clarify, the test on the left was posted by eieio. Notice his ISP is Sprint PCS and his location is 1100 miles from Tampa.

The graphic on the right is one that I ran. Notice my ISP is EarthLink and the distance is 50 miles (obviously, we're on opposite sides of town and I live in the outskirts).

Eieio didn't include every location and a lot of people were asking "what about me". Well, everyone can run these tests for themselves. All you need is a Flash enabled browser. Just go to Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test and start testing.
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Qwest...booo. I have a 12Mb connection, and this is all I've ever seen outta this test. Does anyone think I should lower my connection to 7Mb to save money? Will it make a difference?
 
Forgive me if this sounds a little offputting, but wasn't the reason he was doing this was to test the WiMax speeds?

I've tested my ISP numerous times, but thats not what he was doing.

He was testing Sprint speeds which of course, you cannot test unless that is your ISP.
 
Autosuggestion said:
Forgive me if this sounds a little offputting, but wasn't the reason he was doing this was to test the WiMax speeds?

I've tested my ISP numerous times, but thats not what he was doing.

He was testing Sprint speeds which of course, you cannot test unless that is your ISP.
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That's what eieio had me believing too, but now I'm not so sure. When eieio comes back, maybe he can explain it.

If you look at the Tampa test eieio posted and the one I did this morning, they were pretty close. Now, look at the one Dylan just did for Tampa. The difference is, he has fios, I have cable.
 
Love my home connection, just wish my phone could be as fast. :P Though it obviously doesn't need to be as fast.



Edit: I believe eieio was showing his mobile hot-spot(or similar) with Sprint's 4G/Wimax.
 
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I can't really complain about mine. I pay $70/mo, so if I eventually got wimax in my area, and it came w/ my cell plan, it definitely would be worth the cell plan.


 
Autosuggestion said:
Forgive me if this sounds a little offputting, but wasn't the reason he was doing this was to test the WiMax speeds?

I've tested my ISP numerous times, but thats not what he was doing.

He was testing Sprint speeds which of course, you cannot test unless that is your ISP.
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You can tether to your computer and test sprint speeds that way.
 
I ran these last night and posted them in the other thread.


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These are using Sprint/Clearwire Wimax in Baltimore and pinging a few servers for variety.

Like I said in the other thread when I posted them originally: These are nowhere what you will get on modern high end cable and fiber connections but compared to average real-world 3G speeds, it is a nice bump up. 5mbps down compared to something like 800kbps on EVDO.

edit: I was just thinking about how not 10 years ago I was so psyched about my work's T1 connection because I could get 1.5mbit up and down unlike the 56k I had at home. Now we're looking at 5-6mb down and 1-1.5 up *wireless across town*. Pretty cool.
 
Capboomer said:
Qwest...booo. I have a 12Mb connection, and this is all I've ever seen outta this test. Does anyone think I should lower my connection to 7Mb to save money? Will it make a difference?
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What the heck?? I live in Colorado Springs and have the 7Mbps package and receive well above 6Mbps consistently. I was having problems a few weeks ago and called the Qwest help line and they ran tests to my line and it turned out that my router was in the crapper. The modem was getting the full 7Mbps. Call them and find out why you aren't getting the promised speeds!! That is BS and they should either fix it or offer to downgrade your plan. If I didn't hate Comcast so much, I would consider going with them but to be honest I have never had any issues with Qwest and they always make things right for me. Today's test is a little slow because my sister is raiding in World of Warcraft and taking my bandwidth:

 
I think most of you have really missed the point of what eieio was posting. My understanding is that he was pulling non-public testing results for WiMax tests conducted in various cities. His results are not from some guy sitting in his living room pinging servers around the country -- I think they're supposed to represent 4G tests conducted by testers using 4G equipment in each actual city.

So no, everyone cannot run these tests for themselves. eieio can't run these tests for himself (unless he's Superman and can fly around the country). Someone has to run them with 4G equipment in each city. Otherwise they tell you nothing about 4G availablility, which is what eieio was talking about.

Also, posting your own results is completely useless (except, of course, if you happen to live in a 4G city and use a 4G hotspot device).
 
@Berner
Well, I wish eieio would come back and explain himself. If you look at the ISP in all of his tests it shows Sprint PCS, so yes he could of had some type of Sprint device hooked to his computer. Now, if you look at the distance, his location is somewhere in New England. The distance to Granby, MA - about 50 miles, Tampa, FL - about 1100 miles (sounds about right from MA. Modesto, CA 2500 miles. Restin, VA about 300 miles.

When you say "I think they're supposed to represent tests conducted by testers in each actual city", I doubt it. It looks to me like he ran the tests the same way we have been doing.
 
billsmed said:
@Berner
Well, I wish eieio would come back and explain himself. If you look at the ISP in all of his tests it shows Sprint PCS, so yes he could of had some type of Sprint device hooked to his computer. Now, if you look at the distance, his location is somewhere in New England. The distance to Granby, MA - about 50 miles, Tampa, FL - about 1100 miles (sounds about right from MA. Modesto, CA 2500 miles. Restin, VA about 300 miles.

When you say "I think they're supposed to represent tests conducted by testers in each actual city", I doubt it. It looks to me like he ran the tests the same way we have been doing.
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Bill -

I don't think you really understand how speedtest.net works. The server that is displayed has nothing to do with where the test is being conducted, and the distance displayed is essentially useless because it is a bad approximation using IP range assignments.

I could sit in my living room in Chicago and ping 50 servers around the country with a 4G modem, and then post 50 different little graphics with 50 different server locations. Collectively, they would tell you nothing about the 4G internet service in those locations. All 50 would only tell about my 4G connection in Chicago, and the hops between Chicago and the test server.

So if eieio posts a speed test for Tampa and says "look, Tampa has 4G ready to light up" it means that he has a source who was in Tampa, with a 4G device, capable of accessing Tampa's 4G towers which the general public cannot do currently, and ran a test in Tampa. Otherwise his information is useless, and from the context of what he said, I think the info is legit.

If eieio is just some guy pinging servers on his own, then its useless information and he's a dummy. But if you read his posts, he doesn't sound stupid to me.

I think this guy has access to a source or database for internal Sprint testing data, and is kindly letting us know what Sprint's internal testing is showing for field tests conducted around the country. If eieio is legit, the info he is posting is a much bigger deal than EVO release dates and pricing. This is major, major inside stuff.
 
Well we've been told HTC and Sprint people have been following this forum.

Maybe this is their way of dropping hints to us of where 4G is going to be soon?
 
pcsperson said:
I asked about metro specifically, but I don't think they would do the metro area and not do the city it self.
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I love Detroit, don't get me wrong.

But if they do just Detroit proper, and not the whole metro area as well, it is going to be useless.

Detroit has so many people who don't even use a cell phone, let alone are going to be running on a 4G network.

Detroit Metro has so much business, so much $$$ that they would be stupid to not include it for the 6 or 7 counties surrounding downtown Detroit.
 
dtokarz said:
No. You're dumb no matter what you do.
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Thanks for sticking up for me, dtokarz. Some people don't approve of the job I'm doing, but that's their problem. Here's what NoName said to me on his very first post:
Bill, a friendly comment. You're so far over your head here that doing anything but nodding your head as you try to follow along is fruitless. No need for you to type a response to every seemingly intelligent post in this thread. Half the time the post you're so effusively praising is rife with misinformation. Perhaps keep your comments to such topics as your favorite color for the phone and what games you plan to put on your handset when it arrives.
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and he said this the other day when we were talking about phone insurance:
I'll give proof that buying any sprint insurance is a rip-off, and anyone who is stupid enough to buy it deserves to be parted with their money: Call whoever insures your car or home and ask them to insure your cell phone. They will do so, at half the premium and likely with no deductible.

Can you all stop trying to convince those of us that are smarter than you that Sprint's insurance is a good deal?
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It came out in the thread that Insurance companies will not add your phone to your car insurance policy or your home owners.

My comment in the tread was "With a phone there are so many things that can happen or go wrong. For that reason, I usually buy the insurance, because it's not so much about the money as it is about the convenience".

You be the judge on who the smart one is.
 
Autosuggestion said:
Well we've been told HTC and Sprint people have been following this forum.

Maybe this is their way of dropping hints to us of where 4G is going to be soon?
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I agree with you Autosuggestion and that's one of the reasons I've fought to stay on topic and friendly. I've also tried to present facts and work with the known instead of making up things based on emotion.

Here's one example of what you're saying about being watched:

Originally, the "official" EVO thread started out as a poll that asked: Are you giving up on the Supersonic? That was before CTIA and before the EVO 4G was introduced. That was only 7 weeks ago (gosh, it seems so much longer), but the whole Supersonic Forum as it was called at the time was dead and there were only a few threads.

The poll itself was a yes/no and a lot of people were voting yes, meaning they were giving up. I was a little shocked, because the specs sounded so good, but nonetheless people were giving up.

Within a few day, someone named stleber registered and dropped a picture of the new Supersonic with the title "A leftover from MWC? ;)" That was his/her first and last post and I was flabbergasted. It had to be a present dropped on us by HTC or Sprint and I was most appreciative, because never before had I seen this picture ANYWHERE on the Internet.

For those that don't know, the WMC was the World Mobile Congress held in Spain back on February 16th. We knew HTC was going to present some phones at that conference, but they didn't mention the Supersonic.

So yes, I believe we're being watched. It could have been the same deal with eieio yesterday, but that remains to be seen.
 
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