Official EVO Rumors and Speculation thread

[myndwire]

haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real HTC Evo 4G Will Do Voice & Web Surf Over 4G Free

man... my love/hate with the ozcarguide guy is all over the map now. i mean, it makes 100% sense that we'll be able to run VoIP/data over 4G, but heck, I can do that over 3G with Google Voice. I'm interested to see what their integration piece is (if any) that simplifies GVoice for 'initial setup' if you don't have a PC for example, like most new users. Unless of course they do something crazy like partner with Vonage, which I'd also enjoy, just not as much as GVoice, although my GV number is solely used for work.

I'm 110% Google at this point -- Apps, Voice, all of it. I'm totally ready for this phone!

 

[drexappeal]

I will give you a fact.

If sprint releases it in June. They are going to get slaughtered.

I do agree that it's highly possible Sprint will get beat by the iPhone, again, but I honestly never thought the EVO would beat the iPhone in the first place. My take is very selfish though. I just want the EVO to meet my expectations for what I need it to do. Even if Sprint does get slaughtered, as long as my plan is the same (paying much less than I would with any other provider) AND I get a phone that fulfills (or better, exceeds) my multi-tasking needs better than my Touch Pro, I'll be extremely happy.

One way or another, if Sprint doesn't do well, what's the worst that could happen to me? Sprint gets bought out by another service provider and I (as a consumer) make my necessary adjustments for being on a new provider? Fine by me, as long as the phone and service is working well for me, it really wouldn't make a difference in my book.

 

[Supersonical]

yeah ik haha

Like i have said, all i have heard is a June release date. I don;t work for sprint so i dont know. But i have heard things, and many of these things have been right.

May would be the better month. I agree with all of you there. However we are on May, and i just don;t see it happening in less than 3 weeks. Sorry

 

[SprintFun]

haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real HTC Evo 4G Will Do Voice & Web Surf Over 4G Free

You do realize they're referencing you, right? That's like me saying that Santa is real, Ozcar saying that Santa is real because of me as a source, and me turning around and trying to say that Validates Santa's existence. You can't be your own validation

 

[hopalee]

I personally would not be mad. It happens, right now there is nothing concrete saying that there will be info released on May 12th, it all just seems to be speculation. If they do not drop the release date, I will simply keep waiting until news comes out, anxiously.

+1

 

[polkadots]

Sweet toad humping mothers...one of the great inside sources to this forum is posting links to that butthole of a website? We have seen it all.

 

[Clock]

Ok so we have heard Bills, mine and a few others that said that May 22-23 maybe the date the Phone drops and given some arguments as to why..

If you don't believe in that date and think its going to be later/summer why do you think that?

Honestly, because the (supposed) insiders are saying otherwise. I hope you guys are right, but I'm going off of the best info we have right now.

 

[polkadots]

To clarify - the EVO very well might do both...but to post from that site. *sigh*

 

[AndroidTod]

Yeah, but they had to be quoting you.

Bill, I agree with you. The last 3 or 4 of OZcar news look to come from this thread just a day or 2 later. One was a quote from SP I think and now a mention of Dan that Jackson uses all the time.

Maybe we should make some sh*% up and se if it gets to print on OZcar. then we could all laugh about it

 

[eieio]

Bill, I agree with you. The last 3 or 4 of OZcar news look to come from this thread just a day or 2 later. One was a quote from SP I think and now a mention of Dan that Jackson uses all the time.

Maybe we should make some sh*% up and se if it gets to print on OZcar. then we could all laugh about it

Dan told me today that the HTC EVO will come with a Blingabyte of storage..

I asked him if he was crazy That I had never heard of a Blingabyte.

He said the Bytes will be covered in diamonds and will be patented by Sprint and call Blingabytes and have 1 Million bytes of storage..

 

[RiverOfIce]

Sprint will sell less Evos than Apple will sell iPhones.

Not the question. The question is can they sell more then the failed palm pre, if they release in june. No they will not and the evo and wimax will be considered a failure. After all everyone says this not a matter of specs but 4g.

Do you think the phone is boxed and ready to ship?

Yes, I think it is ready to ship by the end of may. It has to be. It has be ready to ship by may 18. They have to have a working phone for the contest winners.

haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real HTC Evo 4G Will Do Voice & Web Surf Over 4G Free

Some one needs a ticket to banlandia for that one.

Supersonical, you do not understand VOIP and data

To the connection, VOIP is data.

What you are saying is, "haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real," sprint is going to allow data and data to be transferred at the same time.

IF you take a Blackberry and you stream pandora and you surf the web, you are doing the same thing that VOIP and surfing the web does.

IF you hang your "proof of dan" on the fact that the Evo can do what ANY SMARTPHONE, except iphones, then dan is not real and you are making things up.

I am sorry, but I will have to call you out on that one.

 

[eieio]

Yes, I think it is ready to ship by the end of may. It has to be. It has be ready to ship by may 18. They have to have a working phone for the contest winners.

Why do you say that?

The actual Recording and blogging takes place much later than than May 18 and nowhere does it say they will receive the phone on that date..


The actual trips and the blogging of the trips are in August I think.

 

[esone1ll]

Not the question. The question is can they sell more then the failed palm pre, if they release in june. No they will not and the evo and wimax will be considered a failure. After all everyone says this not a matter of specs but 4g.


Yes, I think it is ready to ship by the end of may. It has to be. It has be ready to ship by may 18. They have to have a working phone for the contest winners.


Some one needs a ticket to banlandia for that one.

Supersonical, you do not understand VOIP and data

To the connection, VOIP is data.

What you are saying is, "haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real," sprint is going to allow data and data to be transferred at the same time.

IF you take a Blackberry and you stream pandora and you surf the web, you are doing the same thing that VOIP and surfing the web does.

IF you hang your "proof of dan" on the fact that the Evo can do what ANY SMARTPHONE, except iphones, then dan is not real and you are making things up.

I am sorry, but I will have to call you out on that one.

I don't mean to start a war, here but:

River, you're right that VoIP is data, but wrong if you think Sprint can't restrict access for certain applications on its phones. Wireless providers have restricted access for parts of data for many years, and there was no reason to expect Sprint to behave otherwise. This is why net neutrality is so important: data is data, and providers should treat it that way, rather than inventing arbitrary restrictions.

That Sprint will allow VoIP and other data at the same time actually IS news.

That Sprint will manage regular voice over 3G and data over 4G at the same time has NOT been confirmed or claimed, I don't think. Here's the official Sprint word on the subject:

Twitter / Sprint: @androidcentral Your story ...

"Voice+Wi-fi=Yes, Voice+3G=No, Voice+4G=Still TBD, still being tested."

 

[Novoken]

Not the question. The question is can they sell more then the failed palm pre, if they release in june. No they will not and the evo and wimax will be considered a failure. After all everyone says this not a matter of specs but 4g.


Yes, I think it is ready to ship by the end of may. It has to be. It has be ready to ship by may 18. They have to have a working phone for the contest winners.


Some one needs a ticket to banlandia for that one.

Supersonical, you do not understand VOIP and data

To the connection, VOIP is data.

What you are saying is, "haha just incase you guys didn;t believe dan was real," sprint is going to allow data and data to be transferred at the same time.

IF you take a Blackberry and you stream pandora and you surf the web, you are doing the same thing that VOIP and surfing the web does.

IF you hang your "proof of dan" on the fact that the Evo can do what ANY SMARTPHONE, except iphones, then dan is not real and you are making things up.

I am sorry, but I will have to call you out on that one.

I think he said doing it over 4g(wimax) for free...

 

[neodorian]

Not the question. The question is can they sell more then the failed palm pre, if they release in june.

I think the Pre would have done great if Palm had the money to improve hardware at the pace they were improving software. The G1 didn't impress many folks outside of geek circles either but with Google bankrolling the Android project and free licensing, plenty more devices started trickling out until they started picking up steam with myTouch, Hero, and Droid.

Palm had neither the market share, the advertising sense, or the deep pockets to be able to afford any mistakes. I would put the Pre on the level of G1 as far as appealing hardware. As far as the OS, it was insanely hackable, very intuitive, and had grown rapidly over 8-10 months. They just needed to GPU-accelerate it and put it on a decent handset which they couldn't afford to make.

Google and HTC don't have these limitations so I doubt the Evo will "fail" in any business sense. It will be a strong offering on Sprint at least until their next 4G phones start trickling out.

 

[PyroSporker]

Still, ask anyone on the street and I'll bet they don't know what you're talking about. That's why a media blitz is so important.

I know there was some doubt cast here a few minutes ago about nothing being said about the phone on May 12th, but the Android Central article I Posted a minute ago said the HTC EVO 4G is going to be demonstrated that day. To do that, WiMAX has to be working. I can't image an event like that with nothing said about the phone. I think that's just the beginning. After that people will be clamoring to get the device and I seriously doubt they'll have to wait until June, July, August or September to get it. That would be suicide.

Why do we assume that the Evo HAS to be demonstrated that day? And why do we assume that Wimax/4g HAVE to be working and HAVE to be demonstrated that day?
The phone was demonstrated for us just fine at CTIA without Wimax/4G working at all - It even won best phone of the conference for gosh sakes. Just because something makes sense or seems like the right thing to do, doesn't necessarily mean that they HAVE to do it.

I don't know production turn around times for phones and softwares, but my gut tells me that they are not boxed and ready to roll out yet. I have 5+ years of experience in shipping and receiving and my intuition tells me that it is still too early in the cycle for them to be ready to go out the door.

The pieces just don't fit together yet. We can try to force them to fit together, or make our own picture out of the puzzle, but in the end we all will see that our picture does not match the actual picture on the box of the puzzle.

Sweet toad humping mothers...one of the great inside sources to this forum is posting links to that butthole of a website? We have seen it all.

You're such a riot

 

[eieio]

Why do we assume that the Evo HAS to be demonstrated that day? And why do we assume that Wimax/4g HAVE to be working and HAVE to be demonstrated that day?
The phone was demonstrated for us just fine at CTIA without Wimax/4G working at all - It even won best phone of the conference for gosh sakes. Just because something makes sense or seems like the right thing to do, doesn't necessarily mean that they HAVE to do it.

I don't know production turn around times for phones and softwares, but my gut tells me that they are not boxed and ready to roll out yet. I have 5+ years of experience in shipping and receiving and my intuition tells me that it is still too early in the cycle for them to be ready to go out the door.

The pieces just don't fit together yet. We can try to force them to fit together, or make our own picture out of the puzzle, but in the end we all will see that our picture does not match the actual picture on the box of the puzzle.



You're such a riot

Hmm False....

 

[esone1ll]

Why do we assume that the Evo HAS to be demonstrated that day? And why do we assume that Wimax/4g HAVE to be working and HAVE to be demonstrated that day?
The phone was demonstrated for us just fine at CTIA without Wimax/4G working at all - It even won best phone of the conference for gosh sakes. Just because something makes sense or seems like the right thing to do, doesn't necessarily mean that they HAVE to do it.

Actually, Las Vegas is an existing 4G city for Sprint. It was working that day already, outside of CTIA.

 

[Novoken]

We cant have too many evo pics

 

[skpd]

hey guys the EVO is out and you can buy it here:
Sprint HTC EVO 4G Android Phone and Hot Spot 8mp & HDMI - eBay (item 180501921654 end time May-11-10 18:45:25 PDT)














yeah, riiiight

and it has 28 bids so far.

 

[esone1ll]

hey guys the EVO is out and you can buy it here:

Sprint HTC EVO 4G Android Phone and Hot Spot 8mp & HDMI - eBay (item 180501921654 end time May-11-10 18:45:25 PDT)


yeah, riiiight and it has 28 bids so far.

HAHA

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This Auction is not for a HTC EVO, it is for the URL www.SprintHtcEvo.com, and bonus URL www.SprintHtcEvo.net"[/FONT]

 

[twospirits]

Speculation or more you decide?

Weekend wrap up

Of special note in the article is this...

My source close to Spring states that Froyo (Android 2.2) will be making it

 

[RiverOfIce]

Wow it is go after River day. Ok, first no hard feelings, this is fun.

Once again. Just speculation.

Why do you say that?

The actual Recording and blogging takes place much later than than May 18 and nowhere does it say they will receive the phone on that date..The actual trips and the blogging of the trips are in August I think.

The contestants have to signed the paper work 24 hours after the 18th. IF that is true, then guess what? They want the phones in there hands by over night. So 22nd gives them 2 days before general release.

NEXT...

River, you're right that VoIP is data, but wrong if you think Sprint can't restrict access for certain applications on its phones. "Voice+Wi-fi=Yes, Voice+3G=No, Voice+4G=Still TBD, still being tested."

I have been using voip with 3g on my tour for awhile now.
Not going to plug any given program. Google Voip and blackberry, oh my.

NEXT...

I think he said doing it over 4g(wimax) for free...

See above. But will take on the real problem here. The question was never Voip and 4g. It was cdma phone calls and 4g at the same time. Can you search for movie tickets and talk to your friend at the same time. And the answer to that seems to be yes, you can.

NEXT....

Google and HTC don't have these limitations so I doubt the Evo will "fail" in any business sense. It will be a strong offering on Sprint at least until their next 4G phones start trickling out.

Wow you are pretty hard on both sprint and pre. It is not about weither they failed by a business sense. It will be a fail in a marketing sense.

Marketing does not reflect real...huh...anything. If they do not sell more then the pre they are going to be labeled failures. By apple and verizon.

Apple and verizon already have everyone believing sprint sucks and anything but apple is unmoral.

Sprint can not win a marketing fight with verizon or apple. At the time this phone is released, it will labeled a failure. No reason to sit round and prove them right.

Bottom line, you need to get as many small victories you can get, even if you are going to loose the whole war. Releasing against apple is playing right into their hands. That is why the date was moved.

If sprint was smart, they would scream june 6, to trap the marketing releases then. And move to may 22 at the last moment, so apple and verizon can not chase them.

 

[Supersonical]

no need to mock me eieio, lets get real now. Dan has provided some real great info for me and everyone here. I think we are all at a debt to him, inlcuding myself, for all of the info he has let me relay to you. There is no gain for him by doing this. So please lets not mock him, he sees the thread haha

Jackson

 

[(EVO)Lution]

The update to Evo 4G would be OTA.* It’s likely the Evo 4G ROM has been finalized already for phones in production and they’ll have to wait until an OTA update to get up to Android 2.2

As quoted from your link ts... But here's an idea couldn't they already have a functioning version of 2.2 to test and finalize on the evo so it would be ready to go when the phone is launched?