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2.2 Update - HTC Confirms Major Problems

i wouldn't say it's a major issue, but i've noticed since i've updated to 2.2 that my battery might initially drop from 100% to 90% with just a few minutes of light to moderate use, but the overall battery life is still about the same; around 24 hours on a 1500mAh battery.
 
Just to start off, No Task Killer works anymore. With 2.2 Google changed their policy allowing an app to kill another app. So it's impossible for any of them to be working, those that say it is, are delusional.

Now, as far as battery... I too was a victim on both of my dInc's when 2.2 came out. (one for me one of son) I couldn't go 4-5 hrs without needing to recharge. However, I have found a solution that works for me and has worked on both of my dInc's. I think whatever it is that measures power needs to be "reset". I Bump charged each phone 4 times consecutively. Once the bumping no longer generated an orange light, I put both phones through their normal useages. I am now able to go the entire day/night without needing to charge. I have also found I haven't needed to bump charge again. Once I did that, the normal charging process seems to have worked. I still bump charge every couple days just to make sure.
 
I got 47 hrs on stock battery b4. Just used task killer as soon as I was done with an app. INCLUDED taking pix and posting them to facebook texting and a few calls in that time. Started with a bump charge. I too have definitely noticed the decrease in battery. Can't get through a full day of work since update.
 
slackfumasta said:
The problem some people are having is this:

If you installed Froyo from the downloaded update.zip file, Verizon may still be trying to push it OTA to you. Your phone will refuse to install it, and it will end up getting downloaded over and over. This will drain your battery down.

A factory reset 'fixes' this because Verizon stops sending the OTA update to you. To figure out if this is what is causing your poor battery life, check your download stats. If you are downloading hundreds of MB per day, you are probably having this problem.
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How do you check your download stats? I'm on wifi so checking data usage won't work. How do I check how much I've downloaded over wifi?
 
Some tips from my own experience with my HTC inc.

All bumping does is simulate what would be happening if you just charged it beyond the point the green light comes on. By bumping your letting the ion exchange have time to transfer within the battery freeing up space for more polarization ... but leaving it on the charger for all that time in between bumps does the same thing.
The only benefit I see from bumping is if you actually need to use the phone.. a charge refresh has great benefits for the short amount of time on the charger due to the plates being depleted and thirsty for more juice after a little use.
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The green light will come on indicating its charged far before its actually charged.... until you see 4200mv you are not charged..... even then your not charged if you pull off the charger as soon as it reaches as the charge voltage " while on the charger" is always higher than resting voltage "off the charger".
Generally, just let it charge when you sleep and your good.
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Froyo charges slower... which gives a better charge by the time the green light comes on.
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As far as task managers, I turned mine off and am happy with the results.... it would behoove everyone to watch the videos on "how android 2.2 works".
There is a cascade of events when opening programs and backing out of programs.. if a task manager kills a program in the middle of this sequence it clogs the works and eats more power and time.
Doing something as simple and play with your text messenger can open many other programs also.. but if those programs are closed, everything chokes and is delayed.
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Another thing I did.. I used to love Handcent for text messaging but noticed I couldn't delete old messages and after several uninstalls and reinstalls, I finally tossed it and installed chompsms and now my phone dances like it used to when I first bought it.

For what its worth.. my phone no longer randomly restarts out of the blue... so far, I'm attributing that to the removal of Handcent since Handcent caused the whole phone to be laggy compared to chomp.

I have not done a factory reset.
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I also installed "app 2 sd" which easily installs programs to the SD card and takes them off the phone freeing up tons of memory... it automatically knows what can safely be installed to the sd card and what should stay on the phone.
The only think I had to do myself was to leave my live screensavers on the phone as they try to initialize "before" the SD card initializes.. so they need to stay in the phone.

I have 7 pages full of programs and I have 598.79mb free in my phone!
I case you don't know.. your phone memory is also your ram!.. you don't have a hardrive and them memory sticks like in a computer... the memory is everything... similar to a computer with a solid state drive.

I really think factory resets cleans up trashy programs more than it does the OS.

For me, I think Handcent was the demon.... and the use of my task killer could have been complicating things yet the more.
 
I agree that WiFi seems to be the biggest battery killing culprit since I got 2.2. My battery stats would show WiFi being responsible for as much as 75% of battery use when my battery would drain fast. So far today, I've been unplugged for 8 hours and I'm at 90% battery left. If I had Wifi on, I'd be at around 50% by this point.

Is there a fix?
 
windstrings said:
For what its worth.. my phone no longer randomly restarts out of the blue... so far, I'm attributing that to the removal of Handcent since Handcent caused the whole phone to be laggy compared to chomp.
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I continue to use Handcent because of the customization and experience no FC's or lag at all.
 
Bundy said:
I agree that WiFi seems to be the biggest battery killing culprit since I got 2.2. My battery stats would show WiFi being responsible for as much as 75% of battery use when my battery would drain fast. So far today, I've been unplugged for 8 hours and I'm at 90% battery left. If I had Wifi on, I'd be at around 50% by this point.

Is there a fix?
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Wifi isn't a problem you are just on the verge of a signal and its actually the switching from 1x/3g/wifi that eats battery along with wifi scanning when not connected(thats where your phone scans for a connection). This is why programs like Tasker came out so that your phone will automatically turn wifi on and off depending on where your GPS says you are.
 
Bundy said:
I agree that WiFi seems to be the biggest battery killing culprit since I got 2.2. My battery stats would show WiFi being responsible for as much as 75% of battery use when my battery would drain fast. So far today, I've been unplugged for 8 hours and I'm at 90% battery left. If I had Wifi on, I'd be at around 50% by this point.

Is there a fix?
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I haven't tried mine with wifi off all day but before the update I would get great battery life with wifi on (I'm assuming its due to not having to constantly search for a 3g signal). But now I've seen a few posts stating that wifi off is helping.

Guess I'll be trying it to see what I get.
 
I've done three factory resets. All my apps force close, and my phone restarts all the time. Sometimes, the phone will restart two or three times in a row. I have a new Incredible on the way, and I'm hoping that I won't be suffering the same crap.
 
gaelaille said:
I've done three factory resets. All my apps force close, and my phone restarts all the time. Sometimes, the phone will restart two or three times in a row. I have a new Incredible on the way, and I'm hoping that I won't be suffering the same crap.
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Normally if you have to do a factory reset so many times, it would be best to do the reset and only use stock programs for a reasonable test period.

If you normally have the issue occur several times a day, I would say a two day period would work....
If it takes a couple of days to normally show up, then your test period may need to be 4 days or so.

Only after everything is working perfect do you install a program... if you want to speed things up.. install three at a time but write them down so to keep up.... if all three pass, then move to the next three... once you get a problem.. you have to backtrack and uninstall those last three install one at a time to "with a test period in between" to isolate which one is the problem.

If the problem is really your phone, it should act up "before" you install any of your third party stuff.

If all that seems like too much trouble.. just ask yourself "what am I running that everybody else doesn't run that has success?"

You may have done all of this already.. if so.. I was just trying to help.
 
i've tried to watch a video on megaupload at two diff. vzw stores on the Inc but i can't get them to show. It loads perfectly fine on the D2 :(
 
I know this issue has been present since before 2.2 However, I'm now on my 5th Incredible and I'm finally saying "f it, I've had it". I'm so irritated. I literally have to plug and unplug like 5 or so times before I'm sure it finally has a full charge. Only after that many times does the light turn green relatively right away. What a damn joke.
 
I don't believe this is an issue is with 2.2 itself, but with certain apps. People who are having these problems are probably the ones with hundreds of oddball apps.

For me (about 30 apps), my battery life improved a little bit and seems more consistent once I installed 2.2
 
BzB said:
The battery draining while charging in the car and using gps could mean your car charger isn't putting out enough juice.
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Ding. I bet the people who don't see a problem in the car are using a 1A charger and the people who do see a problem have 500mA chargers.

For those people NOT in a car who see terrible battery drain, what happens if you turn off the switch for "Background Data"? Settings | Accounts & sync | [Background data]
 
I have also been getting really bad battery drain since 2.2
at max I can last 8 hours. I also loose the first 10% within like 20 minutes of unplugging the phone.

My phone used to last at least 24 hours or so unplugged.
 
This was my phone today. I mainly used it as an mp3 player..Screen was almost always off with the cpu underclocked to 245mhz when the screen was off.

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SBacklin said:
For me its the exact opposite. If I only use 3G-no WiFi then it kills my battery a lot faster.
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Stumbled across something accidentally today. I upgraded, factory reset, don't use ATK (but I have been playing with System Panel and the kill widget) reinstalled everything and got everything back up clean. Most days I have good battery life, but I carry my phone in my pocket and occasionally I can feel the HEAT coming from the battery and that's when my battery is getting the life sucked out of it QUICK.

It did it yesterday at work and this morning it started doing it again. I went to look at something in the Droid Market and got a blip of a network error message and then the Market popped up. Made me think of something so I popped into settings and looked at my WiFi, and although WiFi was enabled and my work WiFi was available, the phone was NOT connected to it. I manually connected and the temp dropped pretty quick. Yesterday by lunch I only had about 25% battery left by lunch, today it's after lunch and I am still at 81%.

I am wondering if froyo WiFi is flaking out on reconnecting with some open WiFi networks and it flips over to pure 3G and that toasts the battery? Just a thought but odd that I could connect manually but it would do it automatically. :confused: And if WiFi is enabled and an open network is available I am wondering if the phone isn't doing something in "trying" to connect that could be toasting the battery? Kind of like when you're out of signal area and your phone seeks a signal and that used to toast your battery....

Also, anyone have any issues with stuff flaking out using the kill all widget from System Panel?
 
SBacklin said:
For me its the exact opposite. If I only use 3G-no WiFi then it kills my battery a lot faster.
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Same here.

Random question from a relative noob - does streaming music use only a small amount of juice? I streamed A Online Radio the other day in an effort to drain my battery so that I could charge it from zero as per suggestions on here, and the battery dropped only a few percentage points after about an hour.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like Froyo!

My battery life has been cut in half and the phone crashes all the time. I've had the phone since July and it had only crashed once. Since Froyo last Friday it has literally crashed 25 or 30 times! :eek: And it has been while using the stock browser, stock Navigation or even some games from the market. :mad:
 
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