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hagar

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Adobe just updated itself and is now taking up 17.37MB, do I really need flash player or just uninstall updates?
 
Youve got an older version as part of android. You can uninstall the update and you will still see flash
 
^^ Yeah I did this this morning. Wouldn't be too bad if you could move it to the SD but with the Desire's ridiculous lack of internal space 17mb was gonna leave me with 20mb free so I uninstalled the update.
 
The same happened to me this evening. Suddenly I noticed my Desire was downloading (automatically!) this huge bloatware weighing in at over 17 MB. I also chose to uninstall the updates and return to the default v.10.1 which, according to the phone, has a size of 0 MB (presumably included within the Android OS itself?). But when I uninstalled the updates I curiously still ended up with a net loss of some 7 MB!???

I'm annoyed that this somehow downloaded without my permission. And I'm left feeling a bit peeved that by some stealth move I've been cheated out of 7 MB of precious memory.
 
Same thing happened to me. Also, like 2 minutes after I uninstalled it, it downloaded AGAIN! Even though I had ticked of the automatic update box in Market.
Also, HATE the new market, so slow and constantly fialing to connect.
I have loved my Desire (on and off) for a year now, is it time to move on?
 
westbros said:
The same happened to me this evening. Suddenly I noticed my Desire was downloading (automatically!) this huge bloatware weighing in at over 17 MB. I also chose to uninstall the updates and return to the default v.10.1 which, according to the phone, has a size of 0 MB (presumably included within the Android OS itself?). But when I uninstalled the updates I curiously still ended up with a net loss of some 7 MB!???

I'm annoyed that this somehow downloaded without my permission. And I'm left feeling a bit peeved that by some stealth move I've been cheated out of 7 MB of precious memory.
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Exactly the same with me mate. I was on around 38mb before the update and left with 21mb after. I uninstalled and was only back up to 31mb. I then went through 'all apps' under 'manage applications' and deleted some caches and data (probably only around 4-5mb worth) and somehow I'm back up to 41mb now. Bizarre.
 
The desire does some odd stuff when you remove apps. Sometimes I need a complete turn off and turn on again to gain space back.

I've also found that a completely wiping everything (full reset) every 6 months or so will gain me about 15mb of internal back.
 
Update on this...

When I woke up this morning I mysteriously found that I'd recovered 6 of the lost 7 MB. Really strange.

I'm glad to say that my phone has not yet tried to download it again. And so far I haven't had any problems connecting to the new Market (which also spontaneously upgraded itself last week).
 
I sent an e-mail to the adress listed in the app on Market.
I actually got a reply! Here it is:
Hi,
Because Flash Player is a browser plug-in and not a standalone app, we need additional enhancements to the Android Browser to facilitate a move to SD card feature. We've requested that Google add those capabilities in a future Android version, but we are ultimately dependent on Google to facilitate that work.


There are unofficial workarounds to be found on various android forums, and while they are unsupported and may yield unpredictable behavior in the player, they seem to work for a lot of people. If you're desperate for internal storage space, that may be a good way to maximize the capabilities if your device's hardware.


With regard to the size of the binary distribution, the architecture of the Android Market dictates that we can only serve a single binary that provides optimized video and multimedia playback on the hundreds of Android phones and tablets available (which are running a variety of GPU and CPU architectures, with each new architecture requiring it's own code paths and highly optimized inline assembly for performance-critical video and rendering tasks).


The size of the codebase is primarily reflective of the complexity and fragmentation between the huge number of available Android devices and the rapid innovation on the part of phone and hardware manufacturers.


We're very conscious of the distribution size and have really taken every step technically possible to reduce the size of the compressed and installed binaries. We spend a lot of time and energy on keeping the player as small as it is. Any additional trade-offs that we could make between file size would come at the expense of execution speed, which would negatively affect video and multimedia playback performance (and don't yield enough of an improvement to make the trade-off worthwhile). We feel we've arrived at the right balance currently.


To give you some perspective, current well-equipped Android phone models ship with at least 1GB of internal phone storage. In this context, Flash Player's 12MB footprint is negligible. While we understand the impact on devices with minimal internal storage, there's not much we can do for these legacy phones.


Best regards,
Jeromie Clark
Quality Engineering Manager - Flash Runtime Mobile
Adobe Systems, Inc
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It doen't help much, but at least they replied!

I sent another e-mail adressing the fact that this reply doen't give me any info on how to prevent the automatic update (it updated again this morning, this is really starting to piss me off!). We'll see what and if he replies to this.
 
had to remove the update as took my phone down to 140K what with the new market app which can't be removed as when you do it automatically upadtes back to the new version. ffs when will Google learn that these things make the poor HTC Desire (with its massive 147MB) of memory suffer.

message to Google - LTFA (Leave the f*** alone).
 
svada007 said:
I sent an e-mail to the adress listed in the app on Market.
I actually got a reply! Here it is:

It doen't help much, but at least they replied!

I sent another e-mail adressing the fact that this reply doen't give me any info on how to prevent the automatic update (it updated again this morning, this is really starting to piss me off!). We'll see what and if he replies to this.
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Have you un-ticked the "Allow automatic updating" box? It's in the middle of the screen when you select the flash player app on the market.
 
svada007 said:
I sent an e-mail to the adress listed in the app on Market.
I actually got a reply! Here it is:

It doen't help much, but at least they replied!

I sent another e-mail adressing the fact that this reply doen't give me any info on how to prevent the automatic update (it updated again this morning, this is really starting to piss me off!). We'll see what and if he replies to this.
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Absolutely right! It's not the size of the download which is the main gripe here. It's the fact that it is automatic and you don't get any say in whether you get the update, and that it apparently keeps on forcing the update even if you switch off the automatic update option in Android Market. For goodness sake, we already have a functioning Flash Player as part of the OS, and this update is not critical for the function of the phone. This update has no business being mandatory. We should be able to choose whether or not we want to have the update. :mad:
 
Anxiously waiting to hear if there is a way to stop the automatic update. It auto updated for me yesterday as well after already uninstalling it once.
 
I have the same problem. HTC Desire with memory down to a few kB which is apparently even too little too uninstall it. At least that's how I interpret the fact that the Flash Player Update wont uninstall. So now I have to uninstall all my other apps now one by one, then uninstall that damn Flash Player Update and then re-install (and configure) all my apps?!? I am furious! :mad:
Thank you Adobe for ****ing up my evening which I did not intend to spend fixing my Phone! Thank you so much!

The email from the Adobe guy postef above shows how incredibly ignorant these guys are. There is no 1 GB of usable app storage on a Desire but just about 127 mb (if I remember correctly) and those are already far too little, even if you use App2SD wherever you can. I cant believe Adobe is not aware of this and thinks that 12 MB is peanuts! :eek:

I am very thankful to anyone posting solutions and experiences to this huge issue here. I'm sure there are thousands of people with an almost bricked Phone out there, desperate to fix this freakin update Problem. Phew. I still can't believe that this is possible.
 
tophee said:
The email from the Adobe guy postef above shows how incredibly ignorant these guys are. There is no 1 GB of usable app storage on a Desire but just about 127 mb (if I remember correctly) and those are already far too little, even if you use App2SD wherever you can. I cant believe Adobe is not aware of this and thinks that 12 MB is peanuts! :eek:
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He's not ignorant, he said new phones are coming out with reasonable memory that makes it peanuts. its still frustrating to us though
 
Mines just tried to auto update again this morning, thats the third morning in a row, surely the tech press must be interested in this mess up, i've lost a large chunk of memory to the market update no choice given, now i've got to take a hit with adobe that will just about cripple my phone, great thanks, good to know its future proof.
 
I've uninstalled and unticked the auto-update, but it still keeps trying to do it. I'm sure it's due to the new market, which is basically complete rubbish. There's got to be a way to stop it doing that!

I've loved my Desire and would have no problems with it really at all if it wasn't for the lack of internal.
 
I decided to wipe my Desire and completely reinstall due to being fed up with having only around 21Mb space. All went well and I reinstalled everything and was left with 31Mb. Unfortunately this reinstallcoincided with the latest Flash Player update. When I saw how big it was I thought I would uninstall the update as I have done previously to no bad effects. When I uninstalled updates it uninstalled Flash entirely leaving me with 46Mb but no Flash! I have reinstalled but I am not happy at losing this amount of precious space. Does anyone have any ideas please?

Also why does it say on the Market that Flash is only 6Mb when it is 17Mb?
 
I'm having the same problem on my Acer liquid metal, which like the desire suffers from limited storage space. I unchecked the auto-update box but it still updates and leaves an annoying notification icons well as thrashing my data allowance.

Has anyone come up with a solution? I'm not happy with Adobe/Google for allowing this problem to become apparent but what were the manufacturers thinking giving top notch smart phones such limited internal memory?!
 
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