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All things GPS

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  • Yes, it looks like a poll.

    Votes: 42 26.3%

  • No, there is no way this is a poll.

    Votes: 31 19.4%

  • Why in the world is there a poll here?

    Votes: 87 54.4%
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    160
Is it not clear that Samsung/ATT have decided that Galaxy-S GPS "is what it is," and they intend to leave it as is--or are unable to improve it?

I suspect that they, especially Samsung, do not want to divert manhours from new product development to work on fixing an already-deployed phone that (in their minds) works 95% OK.

ATT is now focused on trying to get Windows Phone 7 products out the door, and, further, Captivate is likely in steady-state sales. The initial glob of buyers have already done so. Thus, the future sales until discontinuance is probably pretty small compared to total ATT phone sales. So, sadly, from a business standpoint, why dump major effort into a dying product?

Conclusion: we are stuck with a potentially great Android phone made definitely-not-great by a randomly defective major function in it. And it won't get better. If it was just a matter of software fix, it would have been done and over. There's been enough time. So sad. They blew it. Big Time.
 
Ahh the GPS issue. Beating a dead horse op. I gave up on it long ago.
Sad isn't it. I might go get the Nexus-S or the next real powerful Android phone from AT&T.
 
So much for serious conversation, eh?

As for "dead horse," there was (at least in my mind) a true question as to whether the horse WAS dead. My post was simply positing my own conclusion that, yes, indeed, it is dead.

Perhaps others had already so concluded. I just today came to that conclusion after sitting here contemplating why a fix had not appeared--and decided it was because they can't fix it, or don't want to put the effort ($$) into doing so.

Sorry I was so late to recognize the horse was deceased.
 
Samsung believes that it's the satellites that are at fault, not the phones. I've got the link around here somewhere...one sec...be right back...

"At Samsung, we breed disappointment."
 
a2gtinut said:
I don't understand why poeple are bitching about GPS.
My wife and I have the same phones and GPS works perfectly fine.
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Lucky you - many of us aren't that lucky. It doesn't work well, there's a known problem, and we're waiting for
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and a fix.
 
a2gtinut said:
I don't understand why poeple are bitching about GPS.
My wife and I have the same phones and GPS works perfectly fine.
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Because for them, GPS doesn't work fine. GPS doesn't work fine for most people. Hence all the complaints here, the requirement for a stickied thread, all the news articles on all the Android news sites, and even the fact that the Captivate is the one and only AT&T phone (of the 15 they carry) that Best Buy doesn't advertise as supporting GPS.

For a lucky few, either in perfect environments or fluke phones, GPS is fine. Consider yourself lucky, but ease up on the rest of us dealing with a very real and legitimate problem.
 
a2gtinut said:
I don't understand why poeple are bitching about GPS.
My wife and I have the same phones and GPS works perfectly fine.
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Samsung has long admitted this is a screwup on their end -

Samsung Working on GPS Software Fix Due September for Galaxy S Phones | Android Phone Fans August

Samsung and AT&T Announce OTA Update to Fix Captivate GPS Issues | Android Phone Fans September

Still Having GPS Issues with the Vibrant and Captivate? Samsung to the Rescue with Fix FAQs | Android Phone Fans November

It's a very real problem.
 
a2gtinut said:
I don't understand why poeple are bitching about GPS. My wife and I have the same phones and GPS works perfectly fine.
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People are bitching (as you put it) about Captivate's GPS because, for them, IT IS NOT WORKING RIGHT! Just because your two work does not mean every other one in the universe does.

In fact, this exemplifies why the problem generates so much consternation--it is not universal across units, nor across time (for some it works awhile, then goes crazy). I suspect that may also have been part of the problem with finding a solution, but....

I think a solution is not forthcoming now either because they CANNOT (are not able to) fix it, or because they have decided to not spend any more money to try.
 
I'm sure Samsung has done their homework. More than likely its not cost effective to address the gps"problem"at this point. Given the sales figures of the Captivate & galaxy s in general..I really can't blame them.
 
I've been aggrevated with my Capti's GPS since I've got it. It's almost as stubburn as my wife. It's never really worked well, except for when I first got and was driving a good hour and half drive, but kept dropping. I was playing around on AppBrain today and found an app called GPS Status and Toolbox. I'd downloaded a few apps before this and none had locked on. I ran the app, it found 2-3 sats but no lock ons. There's a tool under the menu called "manage a-gps state". I hit reset and in less than 10 seconds, I had 7 sats and 5 locks. I also did the download after it had already downloaded. I'll be playing with this a little more but figured I'd post while it working.
 
My gps worked great after the jh7 flash and gpsrestore app. I flashed cog on Tueday (which I really liked) and the gps couldnt even see any sattelites. I tried flashing the gps fix I seen on xda and soft bricked the phone. I used odin to go back to stock jh6 then my phone connected to kies mini (win 7 x64) for the first time. Reflashed jh7, rooted, lag fix then reinstall apps and settings with TiBu. Gps works like it did prior to custom rom and my benchmark went from 881 on stock eclair to 1274 on cog to 2262 on rooted+lag fix 2.1. Now Im happy.
 
mi04se1 said:
my benchmark went from 881 on stock eclair to 1274 on cog to 2262 on rooted+lag fix 2.1. Now Im happy.
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Now if only those "benchmarks" actually meant anything.

(Quadrant scores on any phone with a "lagfix" hack are absolutely meaningless at that point. It's the equivalent of putting your car in neutral, revving the RPMs to 4000 and thinking you're going "fast").
 
I flashed Perception 9.5 with the gps mod and love it. Im not worried about quandrant, but my download speed went to 2011 kb/sec and upload is 1252 kb/sec.
 
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