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Android "Silver" to replace Nexus Line?

This is the first I've heard of this. Doesn't seem likely to me.
Google is gearing up for a major effort to spur development of premium Android smartphones and re-assert control over the Android ecosystem as it seeks to better compete with the Apple iPhone and blunt the growing power of Samsung, the leading maker of Android phones.

The expensive effort involves dumping the four-year-old Google Nexus phone brand in favor of a new program called Silver, under which manufacturers and wireless carriers will effectively be paid to produce and sell high-end devices that closely adhere to Google specifications, according to four people briefed on the project.

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I certainly hope not, because a focus on carriers sounds like shorthand for "US only". By all means let them do this as an addition, or as a replacement for the (US only) Google Play Editions (which it sounds closer to than Nexus), but let's keep the Nexus line please.
 
With Google making substantial financial input to a 'Silver' line of devices - payments to manufacturers, kiosks or other dedicated retail space, expanded customer support, extensive advertising - no way could they be sold for Nexus prices. So hopefully Nexus devices will continue as a low-cost online-only alternative. Also would like to see the Google Play Editions continue as an alternative for those manufacturers who choose not to participate in the Silver program but are willing to offer a vanilla Android version.

Only problem is, with Nexus, GPE and Silver devices to choose from, plus fully-loaded OEM carrier versions, it might be a little complicated for non-techie types to sort out. There could be 4 versions of the same basic unit plus memory options, colors, etc etc. All good AFAIC but choice overload for some.
 
Wonder if Google got tired of upgrade complaints from those who use stock carrier phones - expecially CDMA?

How long has KitKat been out? I see posts that some phone just got it.

TMO might go for this - they have never really cared where I got the phone, but Verizon and Sprint might have a problem. Sprint is just now getting ready to allow unlocking from what I've read. Not sure about ATT.

It will probably wind up with some kind of compromise. Big corp vs Big corp if V can't put Vcast on the phone. Or whichever carrier has what that makes the money.

I do agree, there's too much bloat on carrier phones.
 
I don't know if Sprint will put up a huge fight, they do allow the Nexus 5 on their network after all.
 
Wonder if Google got tired of upgrade complaints from those who use stock carrier phones - expecially CDMA?

How long has KitKat been out? I see posts that some phone just got it.

TMO might go for this - they have never really cared where I got the phone, but Verizon and Sprint might have a problem. Sprint is just now getting ready to allow unlocking from what I've read. Not sure about ATT.

It will probably wind up with some kind of compromise. Big corp vs Big corp if V can't put Vcast on the phone. Or whichever carrier has what that makes the money.

I do agree, there's too much bloat on carrier phones.

Verizon's really the only carrier not playing ball with them
 
This seems logical. Each version of the Nexus line has sold better than the last. People I work with who aren't phone nerds own a Nexus. It's gone mainstream (even if it isn't selling in Galaxy S numbers). OEMs like Samsung do not like having to sell their $600+ phones against a $350-$400 phone of comparable specs. Google doesn't care about profit on a niche device, but for companies like Samsung and HTC, it's their livelihood.

The last time the "Nexus is going away after next year" rumor came out, some of the details stated that the GPE and any future program (Silver?) was a compromise between Google and the OEMs. The idea was that the OEMs would concede an annual stock version of one of their handsets, and Google would stop selling half-price premium phones. Again, this was a rumor within a rumor.

Silver will only be successful if it goes global. The GPe program has not been successful because it's been squeezed on both ends. On one end, people aren't going to pay $650 for a handset that they can get for $199 on a carrier contract, even if it's cheaper in the long run with a BYOD plan. That's why T-Mobile and Motorola offer monthly financing. On the other end, those who do feel it's worth it to buy up front, when they get to the Play Store, they see that $649 Galaxy S4 right next to the $399 (32GB) Nexus 5, and they ask, is it worth the extra $250? For most, the answer is "no."

Removing the Nexus but offering stock phones in a way that is accessible to customers is a recipe for success. However, Google needs to go the distance on this. These handsets cannot be limited by the carrier. Windows Phone has pre-loaded carrier apps, but they can be REMOVED. The iPhone has no pre-loaded carrier software, but it does have carrier restrictions on tethering built-in. If Google is going to cave in any way to the carrier, then they need to sell unlocked, bloat-free variants on the Play Store at a comparable price (and offer Motorola-esque financing). Otherwise, the "open" OS will be the only one of the big three with no bloat-free options. Go figure.

*Explanation on iPhone tethering restrictions, because someone is likely to ask. By default, carrier-branded handsets have software installed that acts as a switch for tethering. For example, when not tethering, traffic may be routed through dun1.vzw.com, but when tethering, it's dun2.vzw.com (examples). Basically, turning on tethering on a carrier-branded handset says, "Hey, carrier! I'm tethering now!" Because of this, when we're on trips, my wife's iPhone 5s (purchased from T-Mobile) has tethering restricted after our limit. My Galaxy S4 GPe? I've tethered over 12GB in a single day. It doesn't get caught because no carrier has their hooks in it. Anyway, Apple provides this data to the carrier view the tethering app on the device.
 
Wonder if Google got tired of upgrade complaints from those who use stock carrier phones - expecially CDMA?

How long has KitKat been out? I see posts that some phone just got it.

I just bought a brand new latest phone, it's got 4.3. Although I suspect Google gets very few complaints from this part of the world, and Android is really controlled by China Inc. rather than Google Inc.
 
I just bought a brand new latest phone, it's got 4.3. Although I suspect Google gets very few complaints from this part of the world, and Android is really controlled by China Inc. rather than Google Inc.

Dont you have the nexus 5?

Edit: nvm, I see you went with oppo
 
Dont you have the nexus 5?

Edit: nvm, I see you went with oppo

Yeh went with Oppo in the end. I liked the idea of having a Nexus 5, but it's really warranty. If I'd bought one in the UK, any problems with it I'd have to send it back to the UK. I know it's made by LG, but the LG service centre in Beijing would more than likely say, "What the hell is this?" It's not even available in Hong Kong AFAIK. The Find 7 is very open to custom ROMs anyway, like most Oppos.
 
How long has KitKat been out? I see posts that some phone just got it.

And I see reports that other carriers are releasing bug fixes for their earlier releases of KitKat. Which is better?

The user experience for KitKat is so little changed, I'd rather wait, and I say that as the owner not only of a Samsung S4 that just got KitKat this week, and the owner of an original Nexus 7 that was horrible after its first upgrade.
 
Looks like silver has been in the works for a while ;) uploadfromtaptalk1398878550939.jpg
 
Where does google get their marketing advice for naming their products and services. Silver implies second place. I still prefer Android Market to Play Store. And Google+ seemed a silly name to me.
 
silver ... sounds not topnotch.

so.. I am wondering.. will there be a GOLD or PLATINUM version too???
 
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